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BMW 5-Series E60 Sedan was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E61 wagon followed shortly there after. The E60/E61 5 series is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 09-19-2013, 09:09 AM
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Crank, No Start: Code '4A63 EWS Manipulation'

Folks, this was an odd one. Probably my fault, but it seems to happen to enough people for various reasons that it's worth a thread someone can find in the future. Also, people get sold a new CAS when all they need is a simple software reset.

Symptom is that everything works, engine cranks fine -- but no start (and no SES light). Fire up INPA and you'll see various codes, but the one that's the problem is '4A63 EWS Manipulation'. Means that two modules aren't synched, so the car believes there is a security problem and immobilizes the car.

The fix is easy (with INPA). E60>>Engine>>N52 [in my case]>>Shft F6 EWS -- Start value comparison and Shft F7 EWS CAS -- Start value comparison. In my case, EWS CAS resynched the modules and the car started right up.

NOTE: My INPA had "valve" instead of "value". Since screwing with the valves in INPA is not something you leap into, it took awhile to figure the bad translation. Must have looked that this five times wondering what valves has to do with the EWS....

NOTE: Different engines have this selection in different submenus, I'm told. I didn't confirm this.

and NOTE: This can be caused by multiple issues with keys, but also by newbies getting too random while learning INPA. Probably what happened to me. I learned a lot while I diagnosed it, testing fuel pump ops and so on. Also, tried several Web suggestions (insert key in door twist left and right; or use valet key), and neither fixed anything.

So, if you get a "crank, no start", check for this fast fix via INPA. Good luck.
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:54 AM
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Good to know, thanks.
I wonder if this applies (value mismatch) to people who doesn't mess with coding via NCSexpert or INPA.
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Old 09-19-2013, 12:51 PM
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Good to know, thanks.
I wonder if this applies (value mismatch) to people who doesn't mess with coding via NCSexpert or INPA.
Don't know (of course), but in my search for the code I came across those who claimed it was out of the blue. Usually had something to do with getting new keys, thus requiring new key coding on a control unit in the car.

One more thing: there's no SES light. So, crank, no start, no SES light seems fairly unique. Even a bad fuel pump would likely trigger an SES light.
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Folks, this was an odd one. Probably my fault, but it seems to happen to enough people for various reasons that it's worth a thread someone can find in the future. Also, people get sold a new CAS when all they need is a simple software reset.

Symptom is that everything works, engine cranks fine -- but no start (and no SES light). Fire up INPA and you'll see various codes, but the one that's the problem is '4A63 EWS Manipulation'. Means that two modules aren't synched, so the car believes there is a security problem and immobilizes the car.

The fix is easy (with INPA). E60>>Engine>>N52 [in my case]>>Shft F6 EWS -- Start value comparison and Shft F7 EWS CAS -- Start value comparison. In my case, EWS CAS resynched the modules and the car started right up.

NOTE: My INPA had "valve" instead of "value". Since screwing with the valves in INPA is not something you leap into, it took awhile to figure the bad translation. Must have looked that this five times wondering what valves has to do with the EWS....

NOTE: Different engines have this selection in different submenus, I'm told. I didn't confirm this.

and NOTE: This can be caused by multiple issues with keys, but also by newbies getting too random while learning INPA. Probably what happened to me. I learned a lot while I diagnosed it, testing fuel pump ops and so on. Also, tried several Web suggestions (insert key in door twist left and right; or use valet key), and neither fixed anything.

So, if you get a "crank, no start", check for this fast fix via INPA. Good luck.
What if the car doesnt crank or start but the dash lights up as if everything was fine?? Im not getting any battery warning indicators or anything either..
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What if the car doesnt crank or start but the dash lights up as if everything was fine?? Im not getting any battery warning indicators or anything either..
More likely a starter motor or relay problem, without having codes or other data. Get a BMW code reader -- Carly is good.
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More likely a starter motor or relay problem, without having codes or other data.
Which relay?? I went to start it this morning and it fired up right away..turned it off after an hour or so and it wont crank/ start again.
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Which relay?? I went to start it this morning and it fired up right away..turned it off after an hour or so and it wont crank/ start again.
The 550 ,, the starter relay is incorporated into the IVM . It could be your issue .. When it starts to go bad ,, it it can be intermittently ... And cause a off and on , no start ..
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the car started up as soon as the tow truck driver showed up. I drove it to an Indy where they shut it off and it would not start again. They checked the ivm and it was good. The mech said it was my starter ($550.00) and the labor was another $500.00. I ran out of there after they jump started my car. It didn't make it halfway down the block and almost turned off before I got it back to the shop. It turns out when my other Indy replaced the clutch they messed up an engine ground wire. They replaced it and wala... Car is working perfectly fine. Over 30 or so starts.
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Helped me.... Was panicking Was on the way to work in the morning... and nothing happened. The car acts like everything is normal, cranks, lights everything up but no start.
In german hit F2 CAS-Startwert zurücksetzen under engine settings. Everything got back to normal. I had a glow plug blown but couldn't believe that was the cause it couldn't start. :thum bup:
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Helped me.... Was panicking Was on the way to work in the morning... and nothing happened. The car acts like everything is normal, cranks, lights everything up but no start.
In german hit F2 CAS-Startwert zurücksetzen under engine settings. Everything got back to normal. I had a glow plug blown but couldn't believe that was the cause it couldn't start. :thum bup:
Glad to hear it. Had a report of a less-than-scrupulous (or perhaps less-than-knowledgeable) mechanic claiming a bad EWS on this failure. It's certainly an odd item, only solvable with a code reader and a program like INPA.
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