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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 09-23-2013, 04:36 PM
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Headlights always on

Does anyone else's Automatic Headlights always turn on during the daytime? I've taken the car in 6 times already to Stevens Creek BMW and they even witnessed it on in bright daylight and acknowledged it not working properly. But, they still can't fix it and I now telling me its normal. So, if mine is normal is everyone else's broken? My headlights and interior lighting is always on. BMW told me to just stop using my automatic headlights and automatics rain sensing wipers.
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Old 09-23-2013, 05:27 PM
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The automatic headlights in mine are overly sensitive - a shade often causes them to turn on. But not as severe as your case.
Why did they tell you to stop using rain sensor?
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:01 PM
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... Why did they tell you to stop using rain sensor?
The adaptive headlights (AHL) requires the Rain/driving light/solar sensor. You won't believe what this sensor controls!! (too much to get into here).

Also, have you had any repair work done to the headlight assembly, fog lights or rear view mirror? All these components are programmed to work work together ... replacement requires updating the system software ...
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:22 AM
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Does anyone else's Automatic Headlights always turn on during the daytime? I've taken the car in 6 times already to Stevens Creek BMW and they even witnessed it on in bright daylight and acknowledged it not working properly. But, they still can't fix it and I now telling me its normal. So, if mine is normal is everyone else's broken? My headlights and interior lighting is always on. BMW told me to just stop using my automatic headlights and automatics rain sensing wipers.

If its under warranty, demand that they fix it.

Call BMW of USA, if they don't
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:31 AM
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Also, what the SAY and what the WRITE on you paperwork are probably very different- dont let them do that.
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Old 09-24-2013, 03:41 PM
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I've brought the car in 6 times and one time drove it in on a bright sunny day. The tech and the sa both said it was not working right and to make an appointment and now that they've seen it, they know what they are looking for. But when I brought the car back in for service, they said it was working normally and it can't be duplicated. I'm not sure why they can't fix this problem and was wondering if anyone else's headlights turn on all the time? Couldn't it be just a bad sensor? There has been NO repairs or alterations to the entire car. This started happening 3 years ago. Three years later, I'm still at the same place.
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Old 09-24-2013, 03:56 PM
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Mine is also very sensitive, there.are days when I think they should be on when they are not and vice versa but it doesn't really bother me too much.
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Old 09-24-2013, 04:30 PM
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You are getting the classic run around, which will occur when an owner fails to demand the dealer properly document the fault on a repair order, AND when they tell you one thing but write another down.

I will bet that the PAPERWORK you have says "customer complains of blah blah" and the written work order says "Did not see blah blah, system tested ok"

When the SA witnesses the fault, I force them to put that in the repair order ...not just 'C/S' which is customer states. "Fault confirmed by _____". When you pick up the car, insist that they document everything they say IN THE RECORD.

Could be a bad sensor, bad module, bad harness.....
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Old 09-25-2013, 04:43 AM
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There are a few sensitivity settings for the sensor.
You can code it or go to the dealer and have him do it for you.

This is a common "problem" with even the newer F-Series.

Just google it or search here in the forums.
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Old 09-25-2013, 10:34 AM
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I got curious:


so here is once snip of a guy in Germany:

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DEF_FLC_SCHWELLWERT_SATZ
wert_02 - changed from wert-01
FLC_SCHWELLWERT_SATZ_1
wert_02 - changed from wert-01
V_HIGH_SPEED_WISCHEN
wert_01
FLC_SCHWELLWERT_SATZ_2
wert_02
FLC_SCHWELLWERT_SATZ_3
wert_03
TYP_FRONTSCHEIBE
serienscheibe
KONFIG_RLS_RAENDELRAD
nicht_aktiv
FLC_SCHWELLWERT_SATZ
wert_01

And here is mine:
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DEF_FLC_SCHWELLWERT_SATZ
wert_01
FLC_SCHWELLWERT_SATZ
wert_01
FLC_SCHWELLWERT_SATZ_1
wert_01
FLC_SCHWELLWERT_SATZ_2
wert_01
FLC_SCHWELLWERT_SATZ_3
wert_01
KONFIG_NACHL_REGEN
wert_01
KONFIG_RLS_GESCHW
nicht_aktiv
KONFIG_RLS_REGEN
aktiv
Am I onto something here?
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Old 09-25-2013, 11:19 AM
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I got curious:

so here is once snip of a guy in Germany:

And here is mine:

Am I onto something here?
This is not a coding forum .... what does all of this mean? How do you get to this information ... but more importantly, how do you access it to change it?
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Old 09-25-2013, 11:24 AM
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Yes,
agreed. No coding forum
My apologies.

Anyway,
that's from my FSW_PSW.TRC/.MAN-File I pulled with NCS Expert.
The reason why I posted this here is because google guided me here and someone else might find this too this way.
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Old 09-25-2013, 02:18 PM
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Yes,
agreed. No coding forum
My apologies.

Anyway,
that's from my FSW_PSW.TRC/.MAN-File I pulled with NCS Expert.
The reason why I posted this here is because google guided me here and someone else might find this too this way.
Apologies accepted ... now about this coding thing: let's start a new thread and teach us how to do this. Or ... direct us to the appropriate coding forum where we can learn this (or you can teach us!).

The little bit I know about coding is what I learned from observing "Okee" (Triple3_0 Coding). He said that I need an INPA-K cable with a green circuit board, not the white one, for it to work with the LCI models ... and of course the appropriate NCS Expert software. Where/what is a reliable source to get all this? Danke schon!
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Old 09-25-2013, 02:34 PM
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Bitte schoen.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...ighlight=coded

My $20 ebay ODB cable has a white PCB and works just fine.

Now back to topic.
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