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F07 Gran Turismo (2010 - Current)
The 5 Series Gran Turismo -- now available in the USA as a 535i, 550i and 550i xDrive model.

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Old 08-25-2013, 05:58 AM
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Post Interesting comment about the GT from the designer of the body

Excerpt from: http://www.bmwism.com/bmws_designers.htm


Christopher Weil

(*1976)

German designer raised in the mountain region of Bavaria, went to school (Grundschule) in Partenkirchen, completed the high school at Ettal (1994) and later studied at Pforzheim University of Applied Sciences in Design, Technology and Business (1996-2000 Master sponsored by BMW); directly after studies with BMW in Munich

Weil designed the body of the BMW 5 series Gran Turismo; Weil says about Gran Turismo: "For the first time, we developed the car from the inside out. and BMW cars are defined by emotion. I think when youíre looking at the car, any BMW, youíre emotionally attached; in our view: BMW Gran Turismo is an innovative. and truly beautiful car, but it is also big and expensive; it does not sell because most of people with families who need this type of car cannot afford it, while people who can afford it, live another life and simply do not need a multifunctional car; some of the usual clients of the 7-series bought GT, while the real target group would be among the clients for lower models of the BMW 5 series"

Weil is now a Senior Designer at BMW, he works on the Gran Turismo 3-series
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:06 PM
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Hmm, that is a very interesting comment. Initially, it sounded elitist, but then again, aren't most Bimmer aficionados that way? Hehe. Upon rereading, Weil is just being brutally blunt. The 5 series GT is very attractive from a form and function perspective but it attracts a very small niche. We are fortunate that our GT serves us well and we can afford it. I'm guessing that the 3 series GT will do better business in the states.
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:10 PM
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Hmm, that is a very interesting comment. Initially, it sounded elitist, but then again, aren't most Bimmer aficionados that way? Hehe. Upon rereading, Weil is just being brutally blunt. The 5 series GT is very attractive from a form and function perspective but it attracts a very small niche. We are fortunate that our GT serves us well and we can afford it. I'm guessing that the 3 series GT will do better business in the states.
I think the 3GT will be a huge hit. It honestly has more interior space and rear legroom than my X5. No Joke. Cargo space might be a bit less than the X5, but not by much. 'm now asking myself if I should ditch the X5 and get a more fuel efficient and fun to drive 3GT.
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:24 AM
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I think the 3GT will be a huge hit. It honestly has more interior space and rear legroom than my X5. No Joke. Cargo space might be a bit less than the X5, but not by much. 'm now asking myself if I should ditch the X5 and get a more fuel efficient and fun to drive 3GT.
Yah, get it, get it, get the 3GT!!
Btw, that's a beautifully serene photo of your M coupe!
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:49 PM
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Interesting comment about the GT from the designer of the body

I love Germans, they just tell it like it is!

To testify to his statement...we just picked ours up CPO'd as I am just too tight with our money to lose 40-50% value in 3yrs.

We just returned from a 1000 mi road trip to Steamboat Springs and the GT is awesome. We fit a tri-bike between the front and rear seats, a golf bag, indoor bike trainer, 3 gear bags, our suitcase and still had over 1/3 of the rear area for our 75lb golden retriever! On top of that it still handled the mountain roads with surprising ease fully loaded... Eat our dust you locals with your full size pickups that tailgate the tourists ;-)

By the way we saw two other 550 GT's in Steamboat...more than we have seen in 2+ yrs in the Fort Worth area, lol!


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Old 10-02-2013, 01:13 PM
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Excerpt from: http://www.bmwism.com/bmws_designers.htm


Christopher Weil

(*1976)

German designer raised in the mountain region of Bavaria, went to school (Grundschule) in Partenkirchen, completed the high school at Ettal (1994) and later studied at Pforzheim University of Applied Sciences in Design, Technology and Business (1996-2000 Master sponsored by BMW); directly after studies with BMW in Munich

Weil designed the body of the BMW 5 series Gran Turismo; Weil says about Gran Turismo: "For the first time, we developed the car from the inside out. and BMW cars are defined by emotion. I think when youíre looking at the car, any BMW, youíre emotionally attached; in our view: BMW Gran Turismo is an innovative. and truly beautiful car, but it is also big and expensive; it does not sell because most of people with families who need this type of car cannot afford it, while people who can afford it, live another life and simply do not need a multifunctional car; some of the usual clients of the 7-series bought GT, while the real target group would be among the clients for lower models of the BMW 5 series"

Weil is now a Senior Designer at BMW, he works on the Gran Turismo 3-series
Thanks for sharing! How in the world did you find this? Clicking through a few links, I can see myself getting lost in the information on this site for quite a while.

We recently took a 2012 550i GT off the dealer's lot as a new car because it has been sitting on the books for so long that it was heavily discounted and the dealership was highly motivated to get rid of this car before the MY2014 GTs started to roll in. I think the reason this car did not sell was because of its sky-high sticker price and relatively small niche group of buyers interested in this type of car (which many have already echoed in previous posts and threads).

Looking forward to learning more as I dig through the threads in this forum.
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I've researched this car more than a human should. I think it's the best looking SUV on the market and without question the best handling and sportiest SUV. No more hauling around a big empty box and getting tossed around in corners and speed bumps.
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:59 PM
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Interesting comment about the GT from the designer of the body

Just sold my 2008 E61 535 Wagon (with Dinan S2 timing) today. Wanted the inside room for my Tri bike. Did not want any SUV and Considered a 5GT, but felt the Audi A7 was FAR better looking, had better performance and a better value.

Ain't it great to have these options???


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There isn't too much choice. There's the A7 and the Model S plus BMW's 3 and 5 GT models. The Lincoln hasn't shipped and I don't think Caddie has one. Then the Crosstour if you count non-luxury models. What I didn't like about the A7 was no semi-command seating and at the same wheelbase, there was no IAS option. The headroom in the back was also cramped. But the low height killed it for me. However, the A7 does come in red and Audi had the 2014 models on the lot back in June while the IBM/SAP parts system debacle submarined BMW's production of the 5GT as far as US deliveries go.
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:26 PM
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I am pleased to have gone from one poorly received niche luxury car (MB R500) to another (550GT) and reaped the benefits of fantastic pricing both times.....
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:33 PM
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Then the Crosstour if you count non-luxury models.
I think you meant its equally ugly cousin the Acura ZDX as a closer comparison....
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