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X1 E84 (2011 - current)
The new to the US BMW X1 will arrive at BMW dealers in the fall of 2012 as a 2013 model year. Get your X1 28i with either sDrive (RWD) or xDrive (AWD) or get the US exclusive I6 N55 powered X1 35i dDrive.

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Old 10-12-2013, 02:38 PM
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Has anyone installed the BSW Sound Upgrade? it looks like it could be a great solution for people that did not go with the HK system.http://www.bavsound.com/product/709/...BMW-X1-10-E84/

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Old 10-13-2013, 02:20 AM
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Has anyone installed the BSW Sound Upgrade? it looks like it could be a great solution for people that did not go with the HK system. http://http://www.bavsound.com/categ...aker-Packages/

Sir,

There are two issues with your post:
1.). The link you posted doesn't work. There are too many "http" and not enough ":". Lol.
Try this one: http://www.bavsound.com/product/709/...BMW-X1-10-E84/

2.) If you click that link, you'll notice that the product is still not available. It's shown as "in development."
It does appear that this speaker replacement package is available for other BMW models. But you posted this message to the X1 forum...


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Old 10-13-2013, 01:54 PM
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Good point on the not available yet. I did not see it. I know many people on here have owned BMW's before the X1 so I was wondering if anyone has used them before.
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Old 10-13-2013, 02:20 PM
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Apparently I';m really behind the BMW mystique.

My stock BMW entertainment system plays MP3 discs, CD's, and iPod with incredible sound.

The bass is so good I had to turn down to -5, and I'm playing mostly trance music I've had laying around.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:29 AM
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Apparently I';m really behind the BMW mystique.

My stock BMW entertainment system plays MP3 discs, CD's, and iPod with incredible sound.

The bass is so good I had to turn down to -5, and I'm playing mostly trance music I've had laying around.
0w40:
Do you have the upgraded HK system? I don't want to sound like an expert here but MOST stock car audio systems are NOT of high quality. I believe the only cars that MIGHT have a REAL DECENT car audio system from OEM are the ones who have "Meridian" or "Wilson" electronics in them. I heard that some of the upper end British cars were supposed to or, have even B&W speakers in them. The stock OEM system in my X1 is very "bass" heavy, and to ME does not sound good at all. Focal is making an upgrade kit for our cars and BSW is still developing their kit for the X1. What makes these speakers so good for the X1 is the EASE of installation following their video's and the immediate bump in sound quality over OEM.

Just my .02.

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Old 10-14-2013, 07:43 AM
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^ Yes, I have the stock OEM system (not the upgrade) which you call bass heavy and is true, and usually takes an amplifier to get that way.

I called it good which means it's the best OEM music system I've ever had.

I thought I had the bass up too high on some trance tunes, but I rechecked and it was still on -5 bass.

If I thought it wAs bad I'd turn bass down to -10.
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:57 AM
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^ Yes, I have the stock OEM system (not the upgrade) which you call bass heavy and is true, and usually takes an amplifier to get that way.

I called it good which means it's the best OEM music system I've ever had.

I thought I had the bass up too high on some trance tunes, but I rechecked and it was still on -5 bass.

If I thought it wAs bad I'd turn bass down to -10.
What we hear from our systems is a two part process, the speakers and the electronics. If you feel the OEM sounds good to you then it doesn't matter what ANYONE says, your hearing is all that counts and matters. A GREAT car stereo to ME should be set flat, maybe a little bump here or there, not much. To ME, what I hear coming thru those speakers is what's important to me. I feel the best speakers one can afford is where good sound starts at. The speakers I had in my 2010 SAAB 9-3 were made by Pioneer for SAAB, they were the biggest pieces of **** I have EVER seen in modern cars of today. I was able to find some old school MB Quart speakers that I replaced those old SAAB speakers with and the difference was night and day.
I'm going to wait a little bit before I swap out the speakers in my X1, but I can definitely see me swapping them out sooner or later.
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:13 AM
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I know nothing of car stereos. If I'm totally wrong about my next statement, let met know.

I looked under the rear hatch storage compartment yesterday, and I'm pretty sure there was an amp back there. I was busy, so I didn't look at too closely.
But, if that IS an amp, couldn't that be switched out and replaced with a larger one with relative ease? That would seem like the simpler solution than changing out the speakers, which would involve removing the door inserts at minimum.

...Unless it really is the speakers that are holding the system back (assuming you feel like there is a deficiency at all).


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Old 10-14-2013, 08:30 AM
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I know nothing of car stereos. If I'm totally wrong about my next statement, let met know.

I looked under the rear hatch storage compartment yesterday, and I'm pretty sure there was an amp back there. I was busy, so I didn't look at too closely.
But, if that IS an amp, couldn't that be switched out and replaced with a larger one with relative ease? That would seem like the simpler solution than changing out the speakers, which would involve removing the door inserts at minimum.

...Unless it really is the speakers that are holding the system back (assuming you feel like there is a deficiency at all).


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Remember my statement of two parts? If you remove the stock amp, will the new replacement amp be matched to the current OEM speakers? If anything, a better amp is going to allow you to hear how crappy the stock speakers are. The OEM stuff is made to play together, again, whenever I have done anything to my cars, ME, I have always started with the removal of the stock speakers and take it from there. What makes it difficult in our cars is how well made and tight the interiors are put together. Do a You Tube search for Focal speakers for the X1 or just look at the BSW videos, removing panels to these cars are tricky, but CAN be done as long as the proper tools are used.
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:18 PM
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What we hear from our systems is a two part process, the speakers and the electronics. If you feel the OEM sounds good to you then it doesn't matter what ANYONE says, your hearing is all that counts and matters. A GREAT car stereo to ME should be set flat, maybe a little bump here or there, not much. To ME, what I hear coming thru those speakers is what's important to me. I feel the best speakers one can afford is where good sound starts at. The speakers I had in my 2010 SAAB 9-3 were made by Pioneer for SAAB, they were the biggest pieces of **** I have EVER seen in modern cars of today. I was able to find some old school MB Quart speakers that I replaced those old SAAB speakers with and the difference was night and day.
I'm going to wait a little bit before I swap out the speakers in my X1, but I can definitely see me swapping them out sooner or later.
Mr. Obvious,

Of course what I hear coming through the speakers is important to me, and as long as the bass and treble get it close enough who cares.

Maybe I should have said I only listen while waiting at the mall, since I like mechanical sounds of the car while I'm driving, not a mixture of that and music.
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Old 10-14-2013, 02:45 PM
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Mr. Obvious,

Of course what I hear coming through the speakers is important to me, and as long as the bass and treble get it close enough who cares.

Maybe I should have said I only listen while waiting at the mall, since I like mechanical sounds of the car while I'm driving, not a mixture of that and music.
0w40:
Maybe I am a little sensitive, but what's with the Mr. Obvious comment? Did you think I was speaking down to you or something? BELIEVE me, not my intention at all! Again, if YOU are happy with the sound of the X1's sound system that is all that matters, NOTHING me or ANYONE says should be of any importance to you, I know I said this in an earlier post. I started my comments by saying I am no expert, but I take that back, I'm a retired auto sound IASCA world champion from 1998, so I think I can say, I am somewhat of an expert. I know what a great car stereo should sound like and I enjoy listening to music on my long drives. (I drive down south to Florida at least 2 times a year, and up north quite regularly) I don't think I would spend the time and money I spent in my competition days now in my car today, but that doesn't mean I won't spend a few bucks to get an accurate sounding system within means.
Your last statement that you prefer the mechanical sounds of the car as opposed to the mix of both tells me the sounds isn't that important to you and again, its all good.
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Old 10-14-2013, 04:14 PM
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In the spirit of changing the subject while simultaneously serving my own (more important mind you) selfish desires:

I did approximately 12 seconds of googling about the Focal speaker system and found some people claiming that without a better head unit or amp they won't make a significant difference.

I'm not the most knowledgeable person when it comes to speakers, but I do consider myself a lover of good sounding music (if not an audiophile), so I don't know when to call bull****.

This brings me to my question - are they worth the $700 or so if I listen primarily to HD Radio? Or would they require additional help (head/amp) to really make a difference?
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In the spirit of changing the subject while simultaneously serving my own (more important mind you) selfish desires:

I did approximately 12 seconds of googling about the Focal speaker system and found some people claiming that without a better head unit or amp they won't make a significant difference.

I'm not the most knowledgeable person when it comes to speakers, but I do consider myself a lover of good sounding music (if not an audiophile), so I don't know when to call bull****.

This brings me to my question - are they worth the $700 or so if I listen primarily to HD Radio? Or would they require additional help (head/amp) to really make a difference?
Again, I'll speak about me here and say, YES, I feel that adding speakers of worth other than the OEM speakers is going to get you much better sound. Is it going to be audiophile quality without adding an amp or a processor? Probably not. But I still say, you will be getting better sound than stock. BSW has put out videos of installs and their equipment in most BMW's except for our X1's. Maybe you could ask them? I have had the pleasure of talking with some guys at a shop in Pennsylvania called Mobile Edge. They actually recommend leaving the head unit in place and upgrading the other components. They use high end products from Audison and Hertz. I would reccomend picking their brains, I have. The owners name is Mitch.
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I'm so old (61), I remember getting excited when my brother earned $69. to buy a 4 track cassette player for our families 66 Impala station wagon.

That seemed to have incredible sound, and now we can make earthquakes, so my expectations are much lower than yours.

It's good to see people push the limit on things they like, so I should let you have fun improving your car.

I'll stick to threads I know about.
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:09 AM
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I'm so old (61), I remember getting excited when my brother earned $69. to buy a 4 track cassette player for our families 66 Impala station wagon.

That seemed to have incredible sound, and now we can make earthquakes, so my expectations are much lower than yours.

It's good to see people push the limit on things they like, so I should let you have fun improving your car.

I'll stick to threads I know about.
There is nothing wrong with learning new things. Me, personally I like modifying my cars to an extent. Once BSW gets the kit together for our cars I might take the plunge, or maybe the Focal kit, we'll see. ( by he way the reason for using these kits is simple plug and with NO cutting of the car) In the mean time, who's taking the plunge first and how does it sound now?

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Old 10-25-2013, 09:45 AM
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I did the BSW speaker upgrade in my 530Xit, really worth it. Not that difficult to install either. Sound was tighter and bass was cleaner. Am awaiting amp- that is a plug and play change, the current amp rates 10% distortion, the replacement is less than 1%, that will tighten up bass and make car sound nicer.
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Rear panel speakers

Does anyone know how to remove the rear panels on the X1 so I can replace the speakers?
Thank you...
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Old 09-08-2014, 04:25 PM
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Does anyone know if the stock stereo amplifier is under the floor in the back of the car? I saw something that looked like an amplifier, but wasn't totally sure that was it. I have just the standard stock stereo. Thanks....
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