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X5 F15 (2014 - Current)
The all new F15 BMW X5 started production August 2013 as a 2014 model year. The new X5 arrives in sDrive35i (RWD), xDrive35i, xDrive50i and a diesel xDrive 35d.

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Old 10-06-2013, 03:47 PM
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MSRP vs Invoice ..?

Hi,

Just curious, those who have placed order for X5 2014, how did the dealer price it ? was it same as MSRP as shown on the website or was it discounted...? pls let me know...
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:25 AM
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MSRP vs Invoice ..?

My MSRP was 72,975 and one dealer quoted 67,900 with Dip pricing while another said they are only giving $1k below cause it's so hot! Assume that $1k is the current loyalty program.

I'm holding out and buying my lease until this new model craze wears off.


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Old 10-28-2013, 06:48 AM
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We used to be able to find invoice pricing for cars and options. No more? It's been a loooooong time, and I'm looking to get back in the family.
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:24 PM
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I ordered my F15 on the 19h. Dealer is giving me 1k over invoice. I called couple of other dealers and spoke to the Internet dept. and they gave me some BS regarding how new the car is and how hot it is right now. I told my current dealer that I'm active on the forums and know people that are getting invoice or no more than 1k over invoice. They said they'll do 1k over invoice, so I took it.

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Old 10-28-2013, 04:45 PM
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I ordered my F15 on the 19h. Dealer is giving me 1k over invoice. I called couple of other dealers and spoke to the Internet dept. and they gave me some BS regarding how new the car is and how hot it is right now. I told my current dealer that I'm active on the forums and know people that are getting invoice or no more than 1k over invoice. They said they'll do 1k over invoice, so I took it.

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how did you check invoice price? did dealer show it you?
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:01 PM
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:07 PM
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how did you check invoice price? did dealer show it you?
I built my car at carprices.com to get the invoice and MSRP prices (at this point I'm not sure if this website is giving me the right invoice price) and compared that to the BMW website build. If the build MSRP prices are exact match from both websites, I know what the MSRP vs. "assumed invoice price" is. Then, when I rebuilt the car at the dealer, to order the car, I made sure that the dealer price build is same as what I built on BMW website. After all was said and done, I asked for a copy of my build sheet with MSRP and invoice price listing. I, then, compared that invoice price with my carprices.com build invoice price. It was the same, minus couple of BS dealer add-on fees. Is this perfectly accurate? I will never know unless I see the dealer books. But this is the closest I can get.

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Old 10-28-2013, 06:47 PM
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For years BMW invoice pricing is 93% of MSRP give or take a few $. Use 93% and you will be close. Includes destination.
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:47 PM
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I built my car at carprices.com to get the invoice and MSRP prices (at this point I'm not sure if this website is giving me the right invoice price) and compared that to the BMW website build. If the build MSRP prices are exact match from both websites, I know what the MSRP vs. "assumed invoice price" is. Then, when I rebuilt the car at the dealer, to order the car, I made sure that the dealer price build is same as what I built on BMW website. After all was said and done, I asked for a copy of my build sheet with MSRP and invoice price listing. I, then, compared that invoice price with my carprices.com build invoice price. It was the same, minus couple of BS dealer add-on fees. Is this perfectly accurate? I will never know unless I see the dealer books. But this is the closest I can get.

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yup, I have used carprices.com to compare invoice and build price.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:26 AM
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Just ordered our X5 (xDrive 35i X-Line) earlier this week. MSRP as built was $64,500. Dealership is only knocking $1500 off MSRP with another $1000 coming from BMW via the Loyalty Discount. Leasing for 36 months and was offered the base money factor. Closest competing dealership is over 60 miles away, so we don't have the luxury of $1000 over invoice in my neck of the woods, especially on a brand new model like the F15. We are long time repeat customers at our local dealer and have certainly been offered more aggressive pricing with prior purchases over the years, but this is really the first time we have pursued a brand new model so close to the start of production. I think the deal is fair considering the base MF being offered, and a good deal is only a state of mind anyway. The discussions about Invoice+ pricing vs. MSRP- pricing has been discussed in depth on this forum over the years and the results are truly based on your geographic location in my opinion. I guess if I wanted to purchase a vehicle at invoice pricing I would go visit the 10 or 12 GM, Ford or Chrysler dealerships around town and regret every minute of the ownership and driving experience for the next 36 months
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:46 AM
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Just ordered our X5 (xDrive 35i X-Line) earlier this week. MSRP as built was $64,500. Dealership is only knocking $1500 off MSRP with another $1000 coming from BMW via the Loyalty Discount. Leasing for 36 months and was offered the base money factor. Closest competing dealership is over 60 miles away, so we don't have the luxury of $1000 over invoice in my neck of the woods, especially on a brand new model like the F15. We are long time repeat customers at our local dealer and have certainly been offered more aggressive pricing with prior purchases over the years, but this is really the first time we have pursued a brand new model so close to the start of production. I think the deal is fair considering the base MF being offered, and a good deal is only a state of mind anyway. The discussions about Invoice+ pricing vs. MSRP- pricing has been discussed in depth on this forum over the years and the results are truly based on your geographic location in my opinion. I guess if I wanted to purchase a vehicle at invoice pricing I would go visit the 10 or 12 GM, Ford or Chrysler dealerships around town and regret every minute of the ownership and driving experience for the next 36 months
can you post your lease details including PM?
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:42 PM
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invoice price is buy price x's 7%
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:22 AM
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Just ordered our X5 (xDrive 35i X-Line) earlier this week. MSRP as built was $64,500. Dealership is only knocking $1500 off MSRP with another $1000 coming from BMW via the Loyalty Discount. Leasing for 36 months and was offered the base money factor. Closest competing dealership is over 60 miles away, so we don't have the luxury of $1000 over invoice in my neck of the woods, especially on a brand new model like the F15. We are long time repeat customers at our local dealer and have certainly been offered more aggressive pricing with prior purchases over the years, but this is really the first time we have pursued a brand new model so close to the start of production. I think the deal is fair considering the base MF being offered, and a good deal is only a state of mind anyway. The discussions about Invoice+ pricing vs. MSRP- pricing has been discussed in depth on this forum over the years and the results are truly based on your geographic location in my opinion. I guess if I wanted to purchase a vehicle at invoice pricing I would go visit the 10 or 12 GM, Ford or Chrysler dealerships around town and regret every minute of the ownership and driving experience for the next 36 months
I don't think geographic location is that important anymore. Coming from someone living in Little Rock, trust me I know what I'm talking about. One can now negotiate prices by phone and email with multitudes of dealers in and out of town and go with the best deal no matter where the dealer is, as long as the quoted price includes delivery of the car.

Both of our current cars came from out-of-town dealers. One is about 150 miles away. The other about 400 miles away in a different state. Both cars were delivered to our driveway. And both deals were so good (including delivery charges) that our local dealers thought I was full of it when I challenged them to match those offers. The look on the face of one of the local GMs when I drove the car to their dealership and showed them the lease contract... PRICELESS!
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:11 AM
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Sorry to dig up this old thread, but do we know for a sure that invoice is 93% of MSRP? It's something that a lot of people throw around, but I'm completely confused as to whether this 93% is across the board or just a general guideline. When I build a car on carprices.com, it itemizes each component of the total price, including the invoice and MSRP for each component. I get something in the 92% range. Close, but not 93%. Leads me to believe that maybe the 93% is just a general guideline.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:56 AM
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1k over invoice on fully loaded X5 50i. Local dealer wanted MSRP - $500 cause they couldn't keep one on the lot...depending on dealer YMMV.

$1k over seems to be the norm for those that shop around/are willing to drive a bit to pick up their new car.
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:11 PM
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1k over invoice on fully loaded X5 50i. Local dealer wanted MSRP - $500 cause they couldn't keep one on the lot...depending on dealer YMMV.

$1k over seems to be the norm for those that shop around/are willing to drive a bit to pick up their new car.

It's tough to find that deal in California, this new car craze is still going! Still searching a good dealer atm!
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:19 PM
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Typically the invoice is 7% of MSRP. I've always went to http://www.bmwconfig.com/ but currently it seems that the "configurator" is not working.
In the past the forum moderators would post up the invoice price ( or the wholesale prices ).

Some dealers have no knowledge about people knowing this information. So when you go to them and say I would like to pay invoice + $500 or $1000 for your profit, they will look at your funny.

You can also contact some of the board sponsors who are dealers http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=20 and strike a deal.

Also check this thread on pricing http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=753931, http://www.bimmerfest.com/pdf/bmw-pr...cing-Guide.pdf
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Edmunds gave me invoice to the penny on our 2014 X5 50i.

Invoice including maco/training was .9248% of MSRP for me.

Our dealer emailed us the vir with wholesale/msrp anyway which Im sure most upfront dealers would be willing to do.



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Sorry to dig up this old thread, but do we know for a sure that invoice is 93% of MSRP? It's something that a lot of people throw around, but I'm completely confused as to whether this 93% is across the board or just a general guideline. When I build a car on carprices.com, it itemizes each component of the total price, including the invoice and MSRP for each component. I get something in the 92% range. Close, but not 93%. Leads me to believe that maybe the 93% is just a general guideline.
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