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Old 10-29-2013, 07:07 PM
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X3 vs 328xi round 2

Ok, so one year later, and my sunroof creak has returned, so back into service I go! This time I get a virtually new 2014 328xi, with the new touchpad and hires NAV. Here are my comments on the new NAV.

Overall, it has many of the Apple style UI enhancements. 3D features, and "twinkly" activity indicators. Personally a mixed bag. NAV was much nicer, with better colors and background contrast, and highlighted major routes. Better use of real estate on the screen overall.

The touchscreen is a bust so far, in my opinion. Requires too much eyes away from the road. Too little gimmick and not enough usefulness. Larger Idrive is almost too big, and I have big hands.

Frankly, I strongly prefer my integrated screen in the dash, to the cheap, plasticky "Ipad mounted to dash look" of the new design, which everything is switching to, much to my regret. Looks cheap and aftermarket, and much of the swooping interior also feels too stylized and lacks functional justification to really ring true to me. Sorry BMW, but frankly, I would say you blew it. Maybe by the time my trade in time comes you will have come to your senses.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:14 PM
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Ok, so one year later, and my sunroof creak has returned, so back into service I go! This time I get a virtually new 2014 328xi, with the new touchpad and hires NAV. Here are my comments on the new NAV.

Overall, it has many of the Apple style UI enhancements. 3D features, and "twinkly" activity indicators. Personally a mixed bag. NAV was much nicer, with better colors and background contrast, and highlighted major routes. Better use of real estate on the screen overall.

The touchscreen is a bust so far, in my opinion. Requires too much eyes away from the road. Too little gimmick and not enough usefulness. Larger Idrive is almost too big, and I have big hands.

Frankly, I strongly prefer my integrated screen in the dash, to the cheap, plasticky "Ipad mounted to dash look" of the new design, which everything is switching to, much to my regret. Looks cheap and aftermarket, and much of the swooping interior also feels too stylized and lacks functional justification to really ring true to me. Sorry BMW, but frankly, I would say you blew it. Maybe by the time my trade in time comes you will have come to your senses.
Hmm...just used a loaner 328xi when my car was in the shop and I did not see any touchscreen on Navi it had - same knob as we have on our X3. I don't think BMW would like to go touchscreen route.....

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Old 10-30-2013, 08:54 AM
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The new 3-series, built after July 2013, have the touchPAD on the iDrive knob.

I saw one at a recent driving school. The knob is significantly larger in diameter than the older style (to give a decent area for the touchpad).

Is that what you were referring to, jknj?
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Old 11-02-2013, 06:16 AM
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Yes, sorry for misspeakin'
Just returned the loaner. There are several improvements of note that I failed to mention. The display has much better contrast, and it seems to load my phone book instantly, while mine takes minutes. I think they don't reload it from scratch, but rather archive it and update the changes. Overall more responsive. The screen is slightly smaller top to bottom to me on the 328.

Once again, the new climate controls are much less clear, with a focus on taking less space.

One nice enhancement I had wished for - sport mode shows what gear you are in even in automatic. Nice upgrade to me.

The 328 had the sport wheel, which I much prefer. I have big hands and the larger, softer wheel felt much better. Slightly smaller diameter as well, from what I could tell.

It seemed like my x3 was quieter, but that could be because I was farther from the glass on all sides. Defintely a bit claustrophobic on the 328, as mentioned before.

Once again, the turbo 4 has smoother and better low end power, but the six feels much smoother at higher speeds and sounds better. The turbo 4 just sounds tinny. I have a 2012 - the last of the straight six engines. Glad I did, although the low end pop was sweet. On the 328, sport mode was downright scary. I can't imagine what a 335 would be like. I would probably crash!

Overall, the NAV tweaks were welcome, but the touchpad seems way too much like a gimmick, and seems dangerous, as it takes too much concentration and focus. I use voice on mine, which works amazingly well.
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Old 11-02-2013, 07:35 AM
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The touch screen controller is uber awesome. Of course one should not look down at it to use it.
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:05 PM
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So I don't seem to understand. Voice r&d ognition is very high quality, and is much less distracting. Touch only helps with data entry and moving around maps. I didn't get time much to play in maps, but artist entry was marginal, and much harder than voice.
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