Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > Z Series > E36/7 Z3 (1996-2002)

E36/7 Z3 (1996-2002)
E36/7 Z3 Roadster, Z3 coupe, Z3 M Roadster and Z3 M Coupe talk with our gurus here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-26-2013, 08:22 AM
rktuxman rktuxman is offline
Registered User
Location: Allentown
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 9
Mein Auto: B
Remote won't lock doors and alarm won't arm

I have a situation that even my mechanic has not seen before and I hope someone can help.

First, my remote will no longer lock the car or activate the alarm. I can lock the car with the key in the driver's side lock, but the alarm will not activate. If I try to use the key in the trunk or passenger side locks the car will not lock or unlock.

Also, another symptom? is the interior light does not dim and go out after car is started. Must switch off manually.

After turning off engine the car dings as if the key was left in the ignition and the door is opened. Normally a good thing but this happens with the doors still closed.

One last thing. I have an aftermarket radio that has been in the car for years. Whenever the car is turned off the faceplate now tilts out. It has always only done this when pressing the "tilt" button on the faceplate.

I love the car and have very few problems but these seem weird and are probably connected in some way. I am really hoping someone out there has some ideas for me.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Ron
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
  #2  
Old 10-26-2013, 06:17 PM
AB1945 AB1945 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: The Villages FL
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 110
Mein Auto: '01 Z3 & '02 325i Wagon
Sounds like it might be "thinking" that one of the doors is not closed properly because the door switch is not activated. This is a SWAG on my part - but if it is the problem then it is more likely to be the driver side as this the door most used. So . . . close the door and put some knee pressure on it and try the remote. If that doesn't work then do the same on the passenger side. If this solves the problem then get a new striker plate for the door - about $30. If it doesn't work . . . well it didn't cost anything to try. Good luck.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-27-2013, 06:32 AM
rktuxman rktuxman is offline
Registered User
Location: Allentown
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 9
Mein Auto: B
Thanks so much for the suggestion. I am going to try that today and see if that solves it. I will keep you posted. Thanks again
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-27-2013, 08:07 PM
rktuxman rktuxman is offline
Registered User
Location: Allentown
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 9
Mein Auto: B
Thumbs up Great Advice

Quote:
Originally Posted by AB1945 View Post
Sounds like it might be "thinking" that one of the doors is not closed properly because the door switch is not activated. This is a SWAG on my part - but if it is the problem then it is more likely to be the driver side as this the door most used. So . . . close the door and put some knee pressure on it and try the remote. If that doesn't work then do the same on the passenger side. If this solves the problem then get a new striker plate for the door - about $30. If it doesn't work . . . well it didn't cost anything to try. Good luck.
Tried your suggestion by applying pressure to driver side door. Presto! The remote locked the doors, interior light went out and activated the alarm. I have already ordered new striker. Thank you so much for your help. You saved me not only money but much aggravation.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-28-2013, 08:00 AM
AB1945 AB1945 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: The Villages FL
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 110
Mein Auto: '01 Z3 & '02 325i Wagon
Here's the DIY I used on the striker plate replacement. Very important you mark position of existing plate so new plate goes in same place. http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...hlight=striker

Last edited by AB1945; 10-28-2013 at 08:01 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-01-2013, 06:16 PM
rktuxman rktuxman is offline
Registered User
Location: Allentown
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 9
Mein Auto: B
Good news and not so good news

Got the new striker. Installed it(thanks for the link) and everything seemed to be fine. First time I tested it with remote he doors locked,light went out and the alarm activated. Perfect! Then the weirdness started. It doesn't work every time and sometimes not at all. Get this...when I get in the car and sit in the seat with the door closed the key works it perfectly. I believe the car is possessed. So, unless you may have another suggestion.......or an exorcist I may just have to live with it. But it does drive me crazy.
Thanks again for your help and efforts to solve this.
Ron

Last edited by rktuxman; 11-01-2013 at 06:19 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-03-2013, 07:46 PM
AB1945 AB1945 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: The Villages FL
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 110
Mein Auto: '01 Z3 & '02 325i Wagon
My experience was that the striker plate had to be precisely located in the original position. Try putting your knee on the door and trying it again. If it makes no change them move the striker plate out 1mm. It seems to me to be very sensitive to the pressure of the door on the lock. Good luck.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-08-2013, 10:10 AM
rktuxman rktuxman is offline
Registered User
Location: Allentown
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 9
Mein Auto: B
Quote:
Originally Posted by AB1945 View Post
My experience was that the striker plate had to be precisely located in the original position. Try putting your knee on the door and trying it again. If it makes no change them move the striker plate out 1mm. It seems to me to be very sensitive to the pressure of the door on the lock. Good luck.
Thanks for the suggestion. Seems like the striker plates are in good position after I readjusted. Now for the craziest part. The alarm still does not arm.....most of the time. If I'm outside the car and try to lock and arm the car all I get are three chirps and no locking, etc. However, if I sit in the driver seat,doors and trunk closed, then press the remote button(key not in ignition)the car locks and arms perfectly. I know this sounds weird but it is the only time I can get the car to lock and arm. Do you have any thoughts on this. You have been so great with suggestions to try me I really appreciate the time.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-08-2013, 10:45 AM
postalZ3 postalZ3 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: California
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 387
Mein Auto: 2000 Z3 2.8
Best way to know if you have placed the striker in the right position, with the door open, push on the switch in the striker with your finger and try to arm/lock the car.
__________________
<img src=http://i.imgur.com/JMjPR.jpg border=0 alt= />
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-08-2013, 11:02 AM
rktuxman rktuxman is offline
Registered User
Location: Allentown
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 9
Mein Auto: B
Quote:
Originally Posted by postalZ3 View Post
Best way to know if you have placed the striker in the right position, with the door open, push on the switch in the striker with your finger and try to arm/lock the car.
Actually I have tried that and the the it does not lock or arm with that depressed. Baffling!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-08-2013, 11:13 AM
khammack khammack is offline
Warning - Thin Air
Location: Denver, Colorado
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 723
Mein Auto: 2002 M Roadster/2014 435i
As you may know, the three chirps mean one (or more) of the alarm switches are not working. I know that the switchs for the hood and the radio (not sure about the door and trunk switches, but guess they work the same) can be unplugged to bypass. Try unplugging the switches one at a time and you may be able to locate one that is causing your problem.
__________________

2014 435i M-Sport, Mineral Gray, Black Dakota Leather, Driver Assistance Pkg, Prem Pkg, Tech Pkg, 8 Speed Sport AT, Heated Front Seats, Active Cruise Control, BMW Perf Tune w/MPE, BMW Limited Slip Diff, BBS CH Wheels.

2002 M Roadster, Steel Gray Metailic, Gray Nappa Leather, Black Soft Top, Steel Gray Metailic Hard Top, TC Kline Double Adj Shocks with H&R Springs, Stromung Exhaust, SSR Type C Wheels.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-08-2013, 11:13 AM
postalZ3 postalZ3 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: California
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 387
Mein Auto: 2000 Z3 2.8
Quote:
Originally Posted by rktuxman View Post
Actually I have tried that and the the it does not lock or arm with that depressed. Baffling!
Does the interior light goes out when you press the switch with your finger? Lots of times the wire loom in the trunk (driver side) are damage due to constant opening and closing of the trunk. Does the trunk light goes out when you close the trunk?
__________________
<img src=http://i.imgur.com/JMjPR.jpg border=0 alt= />
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-08-2013, 11:22 AM
rktuxman rktuxman is offline
Registered User
Location: Allentown
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 9
Mein Auto: B
Thanks I will try that over the weekend. Any photos or videos of the location to unplug..I really am not that knowledgable.
Appreciate it
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-08-2013, 11:28 AM
rktuxman rktuxman is offline
Registered User
Location: Allentown
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 9
Mein Auto: B
Quote:
Originally Posted by khammack View Post
As you may know, the three chirps mean one (or more) of the alarm switches are not working. I know that the switchs for the hood and the radio (not sure about the door and trunk switches, but guess they work the same) can be unplugged to bypass. Try unplugging the switches one at a time and you may be able to locate one that is causing your problem.
Any photos or video as to where I would find the plugs to these switches? I am a little clueless on this. Any idea as to Why would it work when sitting inside the car
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-08-2013, 11:49 AM
M3Stevie M3Stevie is offline
Registered User
Location: Crosby, TX
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4
Mein Auto: 2000 M Roadster
I have a 150,000 mile E36 M3 that has similar issues. When I bought the car it had tape on the striker so I took it off and the problems soon began. I went back to the ghetto fix and wrapped one revolution of electrical tape around the striker and switch but not so tightly that the switch is closed. It's worked on my car for the past several months without any more gremlins. As for only working while you're seated in the car, I noticed with myself that I jam my leg against the door and that was enough pressure to momentarily engage and disengage the switch when I hit bumps. it is most definitely the striker switch in your case and it's just a matter of finding the correct position.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-08-2013, 02:19 PM
khammack khammack is offline
Warning - Thin Air
Location: Denver, Colorado
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 723
Mein Auto: 2002 M Roadster/2014 435i
In your case it could be the striker, but if you want to unplug the hood and radio switched it would eliminate the most common areas which cause this. The hood switches a button on the driver's side at the front of the engine bay which the hood presses down when closed. The radio switch is on a bracket behind the radio where a rod from the radio can activate the alarm if the radio is removed (as in stolen). Each can be unplugged to bypass them.
__________________

2014 435i M-Sport, Mineral Gray, Black Dakota Leather, Driver Assistance Pkg, Prem Pkg, Tech Pkg, 8 Speed Sport AT, Heated Front Seats, Active Cruise Control, BMW Perf Tune w/MPE, BMW Limited Slip Diff, BBS CH Wheels.

2002 M Roadster, Steel Gray Metailic, Gray Nappa Leather, Black Soft Top, Steel Gray Metailic Hard Top, TC Kline Double Adj Shocks with H&R Springs, Stromung Exhaust, SSR Type C Wheels.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-09-2013, 06:53 AM
AB1945 AB1945 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: The Villages FL
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 110
Mein Auto: '01 Z3 & '02 325i Wagon
Dear Watson, it works properly when you are sitting in the car - right? Then I would suggest that you are a tall person with the seat pushed all the way back and when you get in there is a part of the seat creating pressure on the door switch wiring near the door. Move the seat forward and have a smaller person sit in the car and see if it works! If it doesn't then I suggest you check the wiring where you installed the new switch. Another thing, take out the screw that holds the plastic trim at the back of the door - it possibly damaged one of the wires and is shorting out. It may also be one of the other switches but I think we isolated the problem to the driver door at the very beginning. Sherlock!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-12-2013, 05:09 AM
chugbugg chugbugg is offline
Registered User
Location: Peekskill,NY
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 26
Mein Auto: 1997 BMW Z3 Roadster
Look in 2 areas: the radio alarm switch button (located behind the radio) and the drivers side door switch. Mine did this a while back and I took it to a friend of mine that has a A-V shop. He tested all of the switches and found that the Drivers door switch was intermittent and the radio switch was not being closed by the radio completely. After a new door switch and tightening the radio the issue was resolved. Been working fine for the last 2 years.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-14-2013, 08:07 AM
rktuxman rktuxman is offline
Registered User
Location: Allentown
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 9
Mein Auto: B
Thank you to everyone for your suggestions on how to pinpoint my problem. I will be trying these out over the weekend. I do wish I was a tall person but I don't qualify at 5'10. Still I will try to move the seat and also remove the screw as suggested. Since I do not have a stock radio, I am looking at a challenging job to take out the radio and check the switch. Interestingly, there are times when the faceplate "tilts" out when the car gets locked so this could indeed be the issue. Is removing the radio the only way to disconnect the switch or is there another way to make it inoperable.
Thanks again to all of a you for the help
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-14-2013, 12:43 PM
chugbugg chugbugg is offline
Registered User
Location: Peekskill,NY
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 26
Mein Auto: 1997 BMW Z3 Roadster
The radio security switch is directly behind the radio. It is a bayonet switch so the radio has to engage completely to shut it off. If your radio is tilting, try this. Sit in the car and push the radio in as far as possible. While this is in, try your security fob and see if it works. If it does, you know that is the problem. If your radio is an aftermarket radio, it has a faceplate to cover up the area around the radio and also hides the screws holding the radio in the bracket. These screws could have come loose and is letting the radio tilt. Just gently pry off thefaceplate bracket and check the screws. If they are tight then take the radio out and disable the switch. I hope this helps fix your problem.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 07-09-2014, 04:08 PM
jojo1969 jojo1969 is offline
Registered User
Location: montreal, quebec
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2
Mein Auto: z3 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by chugbugg View Post
Look in 2 areas: the radio alarm switch button (located behind the radio) and the drivers side door switch. Mine did this a while back and I took it to a friend of mine that has a A-V shop. He tested all of the switches and found that the Drivers door switch was intermittent and the radio switch was not being closed by the radio completely. After a new door switch and tightening the radio the issue was resolved. Been working fine for the last 2 years.
Thx I checked. The back of the radio and bypassed the sensor and alarm works fine now

Thx
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > Z Series > E36/7 Z3 (1996-2002)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms