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Old 11-03-2013, 12:46 PM
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I remember reading something in the log about programming mode, I have the log if you can make any sense of it but its 32mb
Oh, that's quite alright, but I will pass.

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Old 11-03-2013, 10:02 PM
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How long will it take to flash the NBT? The KOMBI needs app. 8-10min.
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:19 PM
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How long will it take to flash the NBT? The KOMBI needs app. 8-10min.
From @matg28's Post # 80:

"it took a good 1 hour 40 minutes to complete flashing, then about 30 mins to re-code everything else"

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Old 11-04-2013, 02:46 AM
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How do I prevent my car from going into sleep mode? Keeping the door open isn't working
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Old 11-04-2013, 02:55 AM
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Also I get error" finished with error in preparation"
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:05 AM
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Also I get error" finished with error in preparation"
Did you have a battery charger running? It doesn't sound like you did. This error sounds like the built-in issue where car voltage must be at 13-15 or it wont allow you to start the update.

Someone else can correct/confirm but I think that once it "starts" (gets beyond the error) it keeps the car awake, but I would like that confirmed too for when I do my update.
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:50 AM
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Hello!

So if I understood it right, if I have too much time and nothing else to do I can update my hole car to 50.4 (including DME and all other ECUs) with e-sys? Step by step or in one rush?

So it could be the same like an update from the dealer (he will have 150 for it)?

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Old 11-04-2013, 08:07 AM
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Yeah I had a battery charger hooked up the whole time but it was only 12V. That might of been the problem. My car is now at the dealership because I figured the error wasn't fixable at my level.


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Did you have a battery charger running? It doesn't sound like you did. This error sounds like the built-in issue where car voltage must be at 13-15 or it wont allow you to start the update.

Someone else can correct/confirm but I think that once it "starts" (gets beyond the error) it keeps the car awake, but I would like that confirmed too for when I do my update.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:37 AM
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How do I prevent my car from going into sleep mode? Keeping the door open isn't working
You might try opening the driver's window, closing the door, then lean in the window, and turn the car on. I believe opening the door while the car's power is on will cause the car to go into sleep mode.

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Old 11-05-2013, 03:06 AM
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NBT Flash Fail with esys

Anyone in boston area willing to help me with this?


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Old 11-06-2013, 05:46 AM
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More success!!....

I've used the same procedure to update EPS, ETKM, FLA3, EMF and EGS, however, I just can't update the Kombi to the latest firmware.


My Kombi is the extended cluster one, and when trying to flash (usual 4 options, bf, sw, cd, iba), here's what I get....

TAL execution started. [C205]
ExecutionID=2013/11/06-11:29:05.596


[Exception - KOMBI - 60] SVK-Ist does not match expected SGBMIDs for ecu ECUId:KOMBI_0x60.

Excpected: [hwel_0000005d-006_000_000, hwap_00000141-255_255_255, hwap_00000ce5-255_255_255],

Actual: [hwel_0000005c-005_000_000, hwap_00000ce5-255_255_255, hwap_00000141-255_255_255, btld_000003c0-004_009_021, swfl_000003c1-004_060_000, swfl_00000413-004_030_000, flsl_00000393-004_009_075, swfl_000003c3-004_031_001, swfl_000003c2-004_060_001, swfl_000003c4-004_019_000, cafd_00000069-009_001_004]


TAL-Execution finished with status: "FinishedWithErrorInTransaction". [C207]
TAL execution finished. Duration: "2min 33s". [C206]


Not sure what's happening, tried just a boot loader flash, same error.

Any clues anyone? - I would love to have everything running the latest version (whether or not it actually does anything )


Ah - just seen a post by Shawn on another thread: For target Calculation, try using the car's actual I-Step(shipm) for calculation of SVT Target, but after calculation, select "HW-IDs from SVTactual", and then Save. Then flash it.

I'll give that a go!

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Old 11-06-2013, 12:58 PM
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Worked like a charm :-)
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:01 PM
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Worked like a charm :-)
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:41 AM
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I had a quick question so does Zeitkriterium to 0713 I have to do this the same way I would change the VO other then it coding new features does it affect anything else ? Do I need to code the each module once I do this ?

Also how do you compare the code options ? Sorry trying to understand how all this works with out breaking something and dealing with the dealer.
0713 & 5AS I get FCW error, there is hw change for ICM, DSC, NBT & KAFAS in ETK so I ended up comparing NCD files with TOKENMASTER's excellent tool
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:52 AM
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I had a quick question so does Zeitkriterium to 0713 I have to do this the same way I would change the VO other then it coding new features does it affect anything else ? Do I need to code the each module once I do this ?

Also how do you compare the code options ? Sorry trying to understand how all this works with out breaking something and dealing with the dealer.
0713 & 5AS I get FCW error, there is hw change for ICM, DSC, NBT & KAFAS in ETK so I ended up comparing NCD files with TOKENMASTER's excellent tool
Others better in the know can correct me, but I thought that I recall reading back a few pages that if you change the build date (Zeitkriterium), you will get errors. Solution is to leave the date alone and enable the newer features by coding the options in the module.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:09 AM
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Others better in the know can correct me, but I thought that I recall reading back a few pages that if you change the build date (Zeitkriterium), you will get errors. Solution is to leave the date alone and enable the newer features by coding the options in the module.
Is there a way to tell what options are new ?
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:17 AM
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Is there a way to tell what options are new ?
My method will be to refer to post #23 in this thread

I'm sure there is a method as the poster did something to get the list.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:25 AM
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My method will be to refer to post #23 in this thread

I'm sure there is a method as the poster did something to get the list.
Thats what I did too I looked at those to see the difference, I was just curious to see how he did that figure out the differences between the build dates.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:03 PM
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I read the coding data from the NBT before flashing then coded it again after flashing & compared the 2 ncd files with NCDtool to look at the changes
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:45 PM
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I read in another forum that the two E-Sys options might need to be checked:
"Update VCM after TAL Exec" and "Update MSM after TAL Exec".

What is right on this: checked or unchecked?

I'm only doing one module and not the whole car so I technically wouldn't want a new i-step registered in VCM, and MSM involves security, and dont know if I want that screwed with, so what does the group say about these?
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:12 PM
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NBT Flash Fail with esys

I didn't update mine as I was only updating the NBT & everything works fine, I was only 1 I level away though, if your update a few levels I recommend updating the whole car with ista


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I didn't update mine as I was only updating the NBT & everything works fine, I was only 1 I level away though, if your update a few levels I recommend updating the whole car with ista


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Ok, I'll leave them off unless I'm told different. Did you get your FCW errors sorted?
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Let me post my questions again. So it's possible to update the hole car with e-sys if I update every ECU step by step? Is there a sequence I have to follow?

I want to update NBT, Kombi, DME, EGS and some other ECUs. I never worked with ISTA before and I don't know whether the normal ethernet cable would fit for that. It should not be the best way to update a car with ISTA for the first time of using it. Or have someone here a step-by-step guidline for that?

Thanks for help.

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Yes, is should be possible to do the whole car.... (With E-SYS)

But, I have no experience of flashing the DME or Gateway (ZGW?)

I only had to do: FLA3, EGS, EMF, FRM, EKPM2, EPS, HU_NBT, KOMBI

DME always scares me - that's an important module !!

I'm sure Shawn has some experience with DME and Gateway.



One thing I've found from doing EPS and EGS is that the car feels much different now. Steering feeling is better in all driving modes (slightly heavier), and the gearbox seems much much smoother. Could just be me, or the car re-calibrating itself.
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:36 AM
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NBT Flash Fail with esys

I never got the FCW working, I am sure it is due to hardware differences in the KAFAS & ICM


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