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F22 / F23 2 Series (2014 - Current)
The 2 Series coupe is the replacement for the E82/E88 1 series coupe. Production starts in November 2013 on the 228i (N20) and M235i (N55) coupes. Look for them in dealerships in February 2014. The convertible F23 2 series will follow in the fall of 2014.

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Old 10-31-2013, 05:32 AM
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I really like the looks of this and price point. I can see a M235i in my future to replace my F30.

Any hope of ditching the electric PS?
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Old 10-31-2013, 06:22 AM
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Any hope of ditching the electric PS?
That would be nice. I'm not sure why we've gotten away from mechanical steering. Is it a engine compartment configuration thing?
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:05 AM
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Electric steering saves a miniscule amount of fuel
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:24 AM
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Electric steering saves a miniscule amount of fuel
Exactly. Saves a little weight too which in turn saves an ounce of fuel here or there.

Given the sporty intentions of the 2 Series if they would just tighten it up and give in more feel that would be better. Still not the same as the feel on my E92 I suspect.

Either way lets get this thing over here and get a test drive. Depending on which way then wind is blowing I could be talked into getting out of my current lease early!
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:38 AM
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That would be nice. I'm not sure why we've gotten away from mechanical steering. Is it a engine compartment configuration thing?
- doesn't sap power from the engine (and saves a little fuel)
- less complex and no power steering fluid
- lets them use variable effort, sport modes etc

It's a lot more than just fuel savings.

And let's be honest, the E90/E92 didn't really have much steering feel, it was just heavy, which isn't the same thing.

You want steering feel in a BMW you really have to go back to an E36.
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:24 PM
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13.4 cu.ft. trunk?! that's a surprise. A pleasant one.
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Old 11-06-2013, 03:41 AM
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13.4 cu.ft. trunk?! that's a surprise. A pleasant one.
I suppose - though I'd personally prefer a larger fuel tank.
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:46 AM
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I suppose - though I'd personally prefer a larger fuel tank.
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Or more rear legroom
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:01 PM
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I know in most cases most people would want the add'l rear seat room. But there's only me, my wife, and 3 dogs in my family (one dog on the wife's lap and two in the back seats) so the interior space would be adequate for me (and we're 50, so there's no kids in the future). 300 - 400 mile road trips in my Mini mandate I always travel w/a 13cu.ft. Thule container on my roof-rack for the extra luggage space. The size, weight, storage, economy, of this 2-series is really hitting a sweet spot to me in performance to utility. Only thing that would be better would be a hatch version of it .
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I know in most cases most people would want the add'l rear seat room. But there's only me, my wife, and 3 dogs in my family (one dog on the wife's lap and two in the back seats) so the interior space would be adequate for me (and we're 50, so there's no kids in the future). 300 - 400 mile road trips in my Mini mandate I always travel w/a 13cu.ft. Thule container on my roof-rack for the extra luggage space. The size, weight, storage, economy, of this 2-series is really hitting a sweet spot to me in performance to utility. Only thing that would be better would be a hatch version of it .



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Old 11-07-2013, 08:38 AM
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:16 PM
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Any chance of an X Drive version? If Audi can put 4wd in a TT, surely BMW can fit it a 2 series.
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