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X5 F15 (2014 - Current)
The all new F15 BMW X5 started production August 2013 as a 2014 model year. The new X5 arrives in sDrive35i (RWD), xDrive35i, xDrive50i and a diesel xDrive 35d.

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Old 10-28-2013, 01:53 PM
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Lightbulb 20" Perfomance Tires bad idea for snow?

I am looking into ordering the new 35d, and the 20" performance tires look awesome on it, however, I live in Germany...how bad will those tires be in the snow? I truly have no clue, knowing the torque that this car has. Thoughts?
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Old 10-28-2013, 02:18 PM
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20" Perfomance Tires bad idea for snow?

Really bad idea for snow. All seasons or dedicated snow tires are a must. I believe they are required by law in Germany.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:18 AM
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Really bad idea for snow. All seasons or dedicated snow tires are a must. I believe they are required by law in Germany.
+1. If you're going to get the 20", buy a set of wheels and tires and put them on in winter.
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Doesn't Germany REQUIRE you to have winter tires?????
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:36 AM
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Doesn't Germany REQUIRE you to have winter tires?????
I believe certain all-seasons are okay, and requirement applies only when roads have ice, snow, slush, frost, etc. So if you don't drive in those conditions you could stick with summer tires.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:59 AM
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I had them on 2011 X5. Zero traction on snow/ice. I am planning to get a 2014 x5 3.5 with perf. tires, however I will be replacing them with Michelin Latitude All Season, but they are not run flat (there are no all season RF available to fit the 20"), so I have to get spare option.
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:54 AM
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Tire Rack's view on Winter tire sizing:

http://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/...jsp?techid=126
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:12 PM
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Old 11-02-2013, 02:14 PM
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I believe certain all-seasons are okay, and requirement applies only when roads have ice, snow, slush, frost, etc. So if you don't drive in those conditions you could stick with summer tires.
The OP is asking about performance tires, not all seasons and since he apparently lives in Germany so he will be driving when the roads "have ice, snow, slush, frost, etc". He could of course leave the X5 at home and drive something else but who buys an SUV and keeps it as a garage queen. If you want a garage queen, a sports car is a more conventional choice.
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Old 11-02-2013, 07:19 PM
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I am looking into ordering the new 35d, and the 20" performance tires look awesome on it, however, I live in Germany...how bad will those tires be in the snow? I truly have no clue, knowing the torque that this car has. Thoughts?
I have Falken Eurowinter 439s which are designed for Euro winters in fact:black ice, light snow, wet slushy conditions and rapid changes in conditions. I love mine and on Vancouver Island we get sort of the weather you do but maybe less severe. All seasons are better than summers but you might be advised to get winter tires for Germany and might be required. If we have an accident here on the Malahat mountain pass and dont have winter tires we are in big trouble with our insurance companies. Caveat Emptor,
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:08 AM
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I had the unfortunate experience to find myself driving in snow with my 20" summers. Snow was predicted and I just could not get the winters on before and rolled the dice. Not only was I slipping and sliding all over the places, stopping was almost impossible. Even going 10 mph, the ABS was lit up and took double to triple the stopping distance.
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Old 11-12-2013, 02:08 PM
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summer rubber = hard plastic when cold. I do all-seasons on the 20s and love having them on year-round. Not to mention much better lifespan with all-seasons than summer performance tires.
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Old 12-03-2013, 08:20 AM
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Pirelli seems like making scorpion winter tires that match the dimension of the M 20" rims.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:15 PM
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I had them on 2011 X5. Zero traction on snow/ice. I am planning to get a 2014 x5 3.5 with perf. tires, however I will be replacing them with Michelin Latitude All Season, but they are not run flat (there are no all season RF available to fit the 20"), so I have to get spare option.
I'd go with the Conti DWS's over the Latitudes Tour HP. I had the Latitudes on last winter and the DWS's on this winter and they are much better in the snow and have better dry and wet weather grip. They're also little louder and wander a bit more, but worth the trade off.

The rear 305/35/20 Latitudes are also only 106 SL rated instead of the 110 XL rated OEMs and DWSs, they feel softer in the rear and I noticed it whenever we loaded the back up for family trips.
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:12 PM
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have been putting winter tyres on our x5 20" for last three winters - HUGE improvement - once you have done it, you will wonder why you never did it before - we put them on November, and swap in Feb / March - the orginal set, except one (puncture) are still good three years on - my wife drives around 25k miles a year
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