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Old 11-13-2013, 03:02 PM
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Greetings All:
I need some advice, suggestions, or reassurance. Currently driving 535xi GT and before that 535 xi wagon. Kids are now graduated and Daddy wants his reward toy. Very close to pulling the trigger on a 640ix vert with the 19" all season run craps. Here's the question Live in NYC and winter home in Vt. Anyone have New England winter driving experience with this car?
Don't really want to do the bi-annual wheel and tire swap so.... Thoughts? (Both 5s with all seasons were great). Should the same engine/tire 6 be any worse? Oh yea, one car family, two is not an alternative.

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Old 11-13-2013, 04:34 PM
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I can't comment on the NE driving experience, but I can comment on going from a 5 to a 6. It's SUCH a different driving experience. I'm on my third 6er.

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Old 11-13-2013, 05:46 PM
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Thanks for the reply and the encouragement. Would love to hear from someone whose been driving one in snow
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Old 11-13-2013, 07:44 PM
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x-drive is the key ...

I have a 650 x-drive M sport convert and drive it year round in Wisconsin. I do the winter change over however from 20 inch run flats to 19 inch (different wheels obviously) blizzaks. I wouldn't be too concerned about driving with all season tires and not doing the switch as long as you have the x-drive however. I kind of enjoy having a different look twice a year and the winter traction with the blizzaks is terrific. McBucky
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:41 AM
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I have a 650i RWD (no x-drive) and do a winter swap. I use the Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3Ds on 18' wheels and have no trouble at all in the snow. I prefer winter sports over hard core winter tires because when the roads are clear, I still have decent performance. If I'm good with winter tires and RWD, you should be okay (in winter) with all-season tires and x-drive. But keep in mind, there is compromise with all-season tires.
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:56 AM
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Thankfully, I'm in California. Good luck.

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Old 11-14-2013, 11:03 AM
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I know I've seen posts from Mass, upper NY, and NH before
Any comments guys?
And thanks to the MidWest responses.
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:24 PM
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Have a 650 x drive vert with 19" in westchester. Swapped out the runcraps for the new michelin pilot all season 3's. Amazing grip in wet weather, will be fine in light snow. Ride quality, noise, and overall performance blows away the run flats, rides like a different car. Conti kit in trunk and no worries...
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:44 PM
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Would a daily commute on the Cross Bronx deter your comfort with just a Conti kit?
Never had a blow out but i sure have more than paid for the tire insurance I bought . Three new tires on them so far!
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:51 PM
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Run flats are like a rock, get the cuts in the sidewall, and cannot be repaired. Regular all season tires will be fine, will not blow out, can be repaired/ plugged, and will not have to be replaced except after 25k miles of wear. In addition, your bmw will ride like a bmw should. Conti kit will get you off the highway and to a service station. Worst case scenario, roadside assistance is a button press away.
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Old 11-17-2013, 02:03 PM
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Thanks much
Appreciate all the advice
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:33 PM
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Don't really want to do the bi-annual wheel and tire swap so.... Thoughts?
Check out this video.

http://www.tirerack.com/videos/index.jsp?video=26

You might want to reconsider the by-annual tire swap.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:39 AM
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Commission from TireRack ?
Seriously, I know you're right but not necessarily practical for me
But appreciate the input

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Old 11-20-2013, 01:15 AM
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I live in Anchorage, Alaska, have a '13 650 ix. It snowed for the first time and the car was almost undriveable, 20" runflats with X drive would accelerate okay but it would not stop or steer, go around a corner and the whole car would move 3 feet sideways. Ordered 19" OZ wheels with Blizzaks, different car now.

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Old 11-20-2013, 05:54 AM
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Considering dumping the 19" run flats at delivery and going straight for the Michelin
Pilot A/S 3 or the Conti DWS. Thoughts on those?
Has anyone gotten their dealer to do the deal or should I take the run flats home and try e-bay?
And thanks for the Alaskan input. You may have scared me enough to do something about it
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:24 AM
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Both are great, absolutely love the Michelin Pilot AS 3's. Have them on since September and have been great in the rain and small snow we have had so far. Dealers are hesitant to get involved in swapping out OEM Run craps so do it at a local shop. Do Not sell the Run Flats as you will need to put them back on to return if vehicle is leased.
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:38 AM
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Very good point, thank you
Without using the glove compartment, how do you get 4 tires home in an F12? :-)
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:06 AM
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Very good point, thank you
Without using the glove compartment, how do you get 4 tires home in an F12? :-)
In the SUV or pickup you borrow from a friend
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Hi WWnyc

I picked up my rear wheel drive 2014 BMW M6 coupe this past June in SC.
Living in northern NJ and using this car for my daily commute into Manhattan I realized early on that I would need winter tires for use between Dec.- April.

I originally ordered the optional Summer Wheels: 20" M light alloy wheels – BMW Style 343M ($1,300 upgrade option), with Michelin Pilot Super Sport (non-run flats), as the summer performance wheels/tires, which have been great:
Front: 265/35 ZR 20 (99Y)
Rear: 295/30 ZR 20 (101Y)

This fall I ordered through my BMW Dealer from BMW, their Winter Wheel & Tire Package for the M6 which consists of the following:
Winter Wheels: BMW Style 408M - 19” Satin Silver. Rim Size 9 x 19
Front: (PN: 36 11 2 336 386)
Rear: (PN: 36 11 2 336 387)
Winter Tires: Pirelli W240 Sottozero S2 Performance Winter/Snow
Winter Tires: All four tires are: - 255/40R19 100V XL. (Non Run-Flat Tires)

Last week I had the wheels/tires swapped out at my Dealer. Apparently, starting this year, BMW USA is offering a program where they will take your summer wheels/tires and shrink-wrap them, put them on a pallet and store them in a central warehouse facility during the winter months, all for a flat fee of $200. For those of us who do not have extravagant garage storage space for these wheels/tires, this option makes quite a bit of sense and I was one of the first to take advantage of it.

Time will tell what this vehicle is like in winter conditions and packed snow with these wheels/tires. I think is should be ok, but if not or we get a real blizzard, dumping 18”+ of snow, I will keep the M6 at home and drive my all-wheel drive 2007 ML63 AMG (79,000 miles), that will have four (4) 295/40 R20 Pirelli Scorpion ICE & SNOW tires, (non-run flats), mounted during the first week of Dec.
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:33 PM
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Now this is getting more interesting!
Wonder if they'll do it for just tires, since I'll be getting 19s to start with!
Thanks loads for the input.
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