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X5 F15 (2014 - Current)
The all new F15 BMW X5 started production August 2013 as a 2014 model year. The new X5 arrives in sDrive35i (RWD), xDrive35i, xDrive50i and a diesel xDrive 35d.

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Old 11-17-2013, 07:10 PM
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New F15 x50i loaded? Or not? Dilemma!

Hello all! So our 2011 X50i msport lease is due in less than 2 weeks. I also have a 640 gran coupe. We've decided to sell the GC (why I don't know lol) and replace the x5 with another x5/F15. Possibly. Wife is all for it, no ifs ands or buts. I'm not convinced we still need a SUV/sav. She thinks the one or two trips a year with luggage to the airport is the whole reason AND the we truly all love the current x5. It's a freakin beast and handles on rails.

So here's my dilemma. Having driven about every model BMW makes for the last 20 years or so, nothing excites me much anymore. With no 5.0 around, I drive a 3.5
M sport today. Alpine white with few options other than M with 19" Rims. Not my ideal setup. As I suspected with the electric steering, the feel was quite a bit looser and the car wandered a bit in the highway. My wife seems to think the performance tires on the 20", which are monsters, will tighten up the steering a bit as will the v8 of the 5.0 and added weight. I will also be adding the dynamic handling pkg. this should make it awesome. But won't be able to test drive. I can of course cancel the car if I don't like it, but I'm ordering about every option and it will be a $93,775 build. I hate to stick the dealer with such a build out. The thought is to extend the current x5 lease until arrival. I'm lucky enough to be able to get out of the gran coupe 2 years early in lease at break even, literally. I like the car, but that's hard to resist to get another new car. Lol.

Wife says Sapphire black, I say mineral white with mocha nappa pkg. b&o, all the packages, 4 zone ac, comfort rear seats, etc. I will NOT order active steering for obvious reasons above. Nor the rear entertainment. Am I nuts?

The alternative is a 2013 Panamera v6 demo, 4600 miles. Basic but decent options. $20,000 discount and considered CPO as a demo. Had a Pana S and loved it. Not sure about the v6 as the x50i f15 will handily outrun it :-). And the darn lease payment is still higher than the x5, even at 25k less of a car after discount. Amazing!

As for my opinion on the interior, while the the test drive vehicle was basic, it is indeed a beautiful and comfortable interior. In fact it is worthy of the 7 series. I only wish it had the 7's digital dash, that's impressive. It was quieter than the E70. The new Idrive is quite nice and the screen and graphics are vividly sharp!

The last concern I have is the seats. Sports or multi contour? I have yet to see the difference. Dealer told car today was sports seats with Dakota but they were still quit comfortable. Opinions?
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Old 11-17-2013, 10:20 PM
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I'm currently driving the 2011 X5 Sport and will get the F15 M Sport in March. I say if you can afford to get the X5 M Sport loaded then go for it. My current X5 got the Sport seats, but for the F15 I'm going to get the Multi contour seats. Here's my build for the F15

My X5 xDrive35i

M Sport

Mineral White Metallic

Mocha Nappa Leather

Fineline Oak Wood Trim

Cold Weather Pack

Driver Assistance Plus

Driver Assistance Package

ACC Stop & Go + Active Driving Assistant

Lighting Package

Luxury Seating Package

20" M Light alloy Double Spoke wheels style 469M-with performance run-flat tires

Mocha Interior Design Package

Premium Pack

4-zone automatic climate control

Ceramic Controls

Rear manual side window shades

Bang & Olufsen Sound System

MSRP - $80975
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:59 AM
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I'm sort of in the same predicament...
Currently, we (my wife's car) have a 2011 X5d and it's pretty stripped: Sport pack w/20", leather, heated fronts, rear climate pack, running rails, and spare tire. It only has 30k miles, but the interior and lack of technology is getting old (was offered $33k for a trade in). I went yesterday to drive a 35i Luxury line and it was okay (the MSport is a must for me w/20"). It drove very nice and overall felt similar (aside from the steering, sound) to my E70. I'm torn with ordering 2 polar opposite F15s:

#1: X550i w/the following--
MSport w/20"
Mocha Dakota
Fineline Pure Wood
Dynamic Handling Pack
Lighting Pack
Spare Tire
Surround View
$80975

or

#2: X535i w/the following--
MSport w/20"
Paint
Mocha Nappa (Mocha Design Pack w/Multi-contour seats)
Fineline Pure Wood
Driver Assistance Pack
Driver Assistance Plus Pack
Dynamic Handling Pack
Lighting Pack
Premium Pack
Harman-Kardon
Spare Tire
$78450

I've never driven an X5 with Adaptive Drive/Dynamic Handling Pack, so I'm not sure if I'm gambling on whether it is worth the premium. Of course everyone that has it loves it. My priority (although it would be my wife's car) in comparison to the E70 is quicker and flatter handling. Comfort is nice, but not my number #1, sport is my #1.

So here are my concerns. The V8 is notorious for carbon build up and engine issues over time. My local dealer just repaired 4 V8s last month alone. My SA and master tech recommended the 35i or diesel (I want to return to gas due to our driving styles). It appears the V8s suck in terms of resale and this would not be a lease. On either spec'd vehicle, I doubt I would see a resale value on the Dynamic Handling Pack, so this also makes me question whether it is worth the $4600. Although I am not too concerned with mpgs, I obviously know the V8 is going to be significantly worse than our current diesel. The perks of the V8....the power and exhaust sound!

The perks of the 35i....quicker and lighter than my X5d, similar mpgs, basically fully equipped (so maybe better resale?), $2500 cheaper, and perhaps better reliability.

So guys/gals, which door should I take: #1 or #2???
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Old 11-19-2013, 07:46 AM
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I would take Door #2 and upgrade to the B&O sound system.

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I'm sort of in the same predicament...
Currently, we (my wife's car) have a 2011 X5d and it's pretty stripped: Sport pack w/20", leather, heated fronts, rear climate pack, running rails, and spare tire. It only has 30k miles, but the interior and lack of technology is getting old (was offered $33k for a trade in). I went yesterday to drive a 35i Luxury line and it was okay (the MSport is a must for me w/20"). It drove very nice and overall felt similar (aside from the steering, sound) to my E70. I'm torn with ordering 2 polar opposite F15s:

#1: X550i w/the following--
MSport w/20"
Mocha Dakota
Fineline Pure Wood
Dynamic Handling Pack
Lighting Pack
Spare Tire
Surround View
$80975

or

#2: X535i w/the following--
MSport w/20"
Paint
Mocha Nappa (Mocha Design Pack w/Multi-contour seats)
Fineline Pure Wood
Driver Assistance Pack
Driver Assistance Plus Pack
Dynamic Handling Pack
Lighting Pack
Premium Pack
Harman-Kardon
Spare Tire
$78450

I've never driven an X5 with Adaptive Drive/Dynamic Handling Pack, so I'm not sure if I'm gambling on whether it is worth the premium. Of course everyone that has it loves it. My priority (although it would be my wife's car) in comparison to the E70 is quicker and flatter handling. Comfort is nice, but not my number #1, sport is my #1.

So here are my concerns. The V8 is notorious for carbon build up and engine issues over time. My local dealer just repaired 4 V8s last month alone. My SA and master tech recommended the 35i or diesel (I want to return to gas due to our driving styles). It appears the V8s suck in terms of resale and this would not be a lease. On either spec'd vehicle, I doubt I would see a resale value on the Dynamic Handling Pack, so this also makes me question whether it is worth the $4600. Although I am not too concerned with mpgs, I obviously know the V8 is going to be significantly worse than our current diesel. The perks of the V8....the power and exhaust sound!

The perks of the 35i....quicker and lighter than my X5d, similar mpgs, basically fully equipped (so maybe better resale?), $2500 cheaper, and perhaps better reliability.

So guys/gals, which door should I take: #1 or #2???
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:42 AM
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I'm sort of in the same predicament...


So here are my concerns. The V8 is notorious for carbon build up and engine issues over time. My local dealer just repaired 4 V8s last month alone. My SA and master tech recommended the 35i or diesel (I want to return to gas due to our driving styles). It appears the V8s suck in terms of resale and this would not be a lease.

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I'm new to the BMW world and I was looking at the 50i or back to MB ML 350 BT. How bad are the V8's in terms of reliability and repairs and how bad is the resale value? I am actively trying to compare resale value but not getting very far. If the V8's are that bad then i'm back to MB..

I will be keeping this car for some time so reliability and resale value over time are large determining factors.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:21 AM
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I'm new to the BMW world and I was looking at the 50i or back to MB ML 350 BT. How bad are the V8's in terms of reliability and repairs and how bad is the resale value? I am actively trying to compare resale value but not getting very far. If the V8's are that bad then i'm back to MB..

I will be keeping this car for some time so reliability and resale value over time are large determining factors.
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:52 AM
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Re: New F15 x50i loaded? Or not? Dilemma!

Well that settles it for me thanks for the info.

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Old 11-19-2013, 12:13 PM
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I'm new to the BMW world and I was looking at the 50i or back to MB ML 350 BT.
Why not consider a 35i if you would go back to the ML350?
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Why not consider a 35i if you would go back to the ML350?
Sounds odd but I either want the power and fun of the 50 or the gas mileage and torque of the ML. Polar opposites I know.

Is this issue hit or miss or this will happen to all V8's and it's just a matter of time? Did your SA/MT say that this issue might be solved with the increased HP and updated motor?

I have a '10 535i now that I've owned since Feb and I think the inline 6 is sufficient but could use more HP so in the X5 it is underpowered. I drove the '14 35i and it just didn't do it for me.

I think BMW far exceeds MB when it comes to technology inside the cab but I love power and reliability of MB's diesel. I am going to wait and drive the '14 X5d and ML BT back to back next year and see if BMW has improved. Even with more HP in the BMW the MB seemed to out perform.

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Old 11-20-2013, 04:25 AM
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Sounds odd but I either want the power and fun of the 50 or the gas mileage and torque of the ML. Polar opposites I know.

Is this issue hit or miss or this will happen to all V8's and it's just a matter of time? Did your SA/MT say that this issue might be solved with the increased HP and updated motor?

I have a '10 535i now that I've owned since Feb and I think the inline 6 is sufficient but could use more HP so in the X5 it is underpowered. I drove the '14 35i and it just didn't do it for me.

I think BMW far exceeds MB when it comes to technology inside the cab but I love power and reliability of MB's diesel. I am going to wait and drive the '14 X5d and ML BT back to back next year and see if BMW has improved. Even with more HP in the BMW the MB seemed to out perform.
Oh I just realized you meant the MB Blue Tec 350...

No, the 50i is certainly not guaranteed to fail. Remember, people post on these types of forums often times to complain or when they have a problem. My MT was saying people with the V8s need to vary their driving every so often. Not beat it to death all time and nor drive it like granny all the time either. My SA/MT were just saying that they would not recommend having the car out of warranty.
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New F15 x50i loaded? Or not? Dilemma!

I've had a 2012 x5 50i for two and a half years now and the only problem I have is bald tires. That car still makes me smile every time I turn it on and drive it.


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