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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:55 AM
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In my defense I did grow up in Nebraska.
So do you use a remote starter to cool down the car?
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:42 AM
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LOL, thats a good one. If one cannot handle cold, they should retire to Florida
Ha Ha

Lets see, Currently it is 73 degrees F... Yesterday it was 82...

Winter here will be about 40 degrees for a week and perhaps into the high +20's at night for a couple of nights....

When it gets that cold, we huddle up inside and do not go to work or school...!
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:56 AM
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Ha Ha

Lets see, Currently it is 73 degrees F... Yesterday it was 82...

Winter here will be about 40 degrees for a week and perhaps into the high +20's at night for a couple of nights....

When it gets that cold, we huddle up inside and do not go to work or school...!
Tonight it is supposed to get down to 52 here in Tampa!!!!! The horror! I've got my X3 hooked up to the battery tender and I will make sure to start it 30 minutes before leaving in the morning so that I don't spin a bearing because of the tolerances of a cold engine.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:42 PM
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Yes but very hard to use, because these don't work for the X3

Currently there is no simple plug and play (or wire and play) solution for this generation X3. I don't have it, Flashlogic doesn't, Viper/Directed, and even Fortin doesn't have it. I have contacts with a fair share of people all across the country, including sharing forums with the big wigs from the major bypass developers, and if something were available to make this install less of a headache we would be using it for sure! This platform's been out for a couple of years, and I'm still waiting.

That being said, getting a little idle time in the driveway is much nicer than some give it credit for it seems. I drive a 99 Corolla (lol), and the top end is a little clattery while it's cold, and can be a little sluggish.. but after 5 minutes of idle it's right where it needs to be. Plus it's already blowing lukewarm air after just that short time. Not bad on the coldest of days.

I'm no huge expert on the A/F controls of newer BMWs, but I can say that idling in my shop, the X3 was extremely light on 'exhaust smell'. Now obviously that doesn't mean it's not running richer than normal or anything.. maybe it is. But I know I fire up an early 2000s SUV and it gets thick. This thing I could probably suck the tail pipe and be Ok, Lol!!

BTW, I'll shoot ya a PM, Claye!
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Old 12-14-2013, 06:26 AM
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Re: X3 - Remote Start?

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Yes but very hard to use, because these don't work for the X3

Currently there is no simple plug and play (or wire and play) solution for this generation X3. I don't have it, Flashlogic doesn't, Viper/Directed, and even Fortin doesn't have it. I have contacts with a fair share of people all across the country, including sharing forums with the big wigs from the major bypass developers, and if something were available to make this install less of a headache we would be using it for sure! This platform's been out for a couple of years, and I'm still waiting.
Have you had much luck with the flash logic in other BMW's? I love remote start in my truck, helps cool it off on hot days. Thinking about adding the flash logic to my X1.


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Old 12-14-2013, 07:21 AM
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As noted earlier, Here what you need:
http://www.amazon.com/Kats-14400-Low...=pd_sim_auto_5

Not sure about the size, but that is easy to sort out. Cheap and easy to install. Growing up in northern MN, we all used these. I think they work better than the now common block heaters.
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Old 12-14-2013, 08:59 AM
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Some people seem to think (mistakingly I believe) BMW reads these forums. If this was indeed the case, I would think almost 5000 reads, as compared to the number of reads on all other topics, would give BMW a strong message about the importance of a remote start feature to the people that buy or consider buying their products.

Right now it is 11 F outside. I would certainly pay to have a remote start feature installed if it was available from the factory or was not any more than a plug and play BMW after market product. It also slightly pisses me off every morning at 0500 when I leave for work and I see a number of GM, Ford, and/or Chrysler products warming up in the parking lot with no one present and my $50K technological German wonder cant do it. Nevertheless, I do need to say that under no circumstances would I be willing to compromise the theft security of my X3, even in the slightest, if that was the price to be paid for a remote start system.
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Old 12-14-2013, 11:09 PM
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The good news is there's no compromise to the antitheft/ security of the X3 with the install! While it's running it's just like you were to start it and then lock your keyfob in the truck while it's running. While running the prox-key feature is inoperative, and thus can only be unlocked by the 2nd keyfob you have around with you normally!
The only way it could be considered compromised is if you were to break the window to gain entrance, open up the dash, then find the keyfob hidden within and do the passive-start where you hold it near the column and press the starter button.
Really the major thing about the install that could be a liability is opening up the PTS switch and soldering wires directly to the circuit board. The worst that could happen from that is if the installer were to mess it up, the PTS switch would need replacement, which is easy. (just make sure to have an installer with a steady soldering hand!)

As far as Flashlogic for BMW interfaces, I personally have not used them. BMWs around here aren't a popular vehicle, and the majority of owners don't want to pay the price associated with installer a remote starter in them properly. In the past the other installers I know have had good luck with it, though.
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Old 03-03-2015, 10:29 PM
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Please respect the idea that I like to have a remote start on my 2013 X3 with Push to start. Isee a lot leave remarks saying is not a good idea but I've had remote start on every vehicle I've ever own and here in NY when the windshield has a layer of ice and heating the car help it melt is a must for me. I've gone to so many places but every location claims is not possible on my model, they claim some 2013 X3 are possible but only if there is some sort of remote slot even if it has a Push to start which I've seen when I get a loader but my doesn't have it. Please just asking for input if someone knows a way on how or a location in the east coast that they do it. One thing I will not allow is to modify the car board like the guy from BestBuy claim he did. I believe I saw a video on YouTube from him and he left original remote inside vehicle which I will not do as well. If anyone is willing to do that then the vehicle voids every warrantee and insurance right to file a claim if it's stolen because you left the key inside.

Please, if you know of a device to make it work please let me know. I'm not interested in people's believes or preference on having one, I think each owner had the right to do whatever they want with there vehicle.
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Old 03-04-2015, 08:47 PM
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Please respect the idea that I like to have a remote start on my 2013 X3 with Push to start. Isee a lot leave remarks saying is not a good idea but I've had remote start on every vehicle I've ever own and here in NY when the windshield has a layer of ice and heating the car help it melt is a must for me. I've gone to so many places but every location claims is not possible on my model, they claim some 2013 X3 are possible but only if there is some sort of remote slot even if it has a Push to start which I've seen when I get a loader but my doesn't have it. Please just asking for input if someone knows a way on how or a location in the east coast that they do it. One thing I will not allow is to modify the car board like the guy from BestBuy claim he did. I believe I saw a video on YouTube from him and he left original remote inside vehicle which I will not do as well. If anyone is willing to do that then the vehicle voids every warrantee and insurance right to file a claim if it's stolen because you left the key inside.

Please, if you know of a device to make it work please let me know. I'm not interested in people's believes or preference on having one, I think each owner had the right to do whatever they want with there vehicle.
Hi there, I'm that Best Buy guy.

You mention a couple things that you won't allow to be done to your X3.. those things are going to be the difference between you getting a RS and you not getting one.

#1. One remote WILL need to be left in the vehicle. There currently is no way to interface with the immobilizer in your BMW without giving up a key, very similar to remote starts in VW and Audis. The key is buried in the dash and the remote start gives the key power only when the remote start is active (of course it's not powered up all the time, that'd be a massive theft hazard). This is the way to do push to start vehicles that don't have a 'data bypass' solution.

#2. There currently is no way to interface with the wires that come off the PTS button on the X3. I tried, trust me, I spent probably 4 hours with my X3 attempting to replicate on those 6 wires what goes on inside the switch. If you *don't* want the board on your PTS switch interfaced with, you'll need to find someone willing to commit the research and design time to make it work. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I AM saying that I did the first one, and only know of two others that have been attempted / completed since I did it (they both contacted me for instructions to do the install, and did it the same way as I did).
Keep that in mind while you're looking for a place that's willing to do it.

Any of the shops that tell you that it needs a 'key port slot' don't know X3s very well. This model never featured a keyport to insert the Fob. The 3 series, for example, did. Completely different starting system on those cars.

If you're worried about modifications to your X3 to do this, there's a couple options, though!

- Wait for a legit data bypass solution, which seems doubtful. This X3 model has been out for a few years and we still haven't seen any hint of a solution being released.

- Buy a different BMW. Sounds crazy, but it's true. The X1, X5, X6, 1 series, and 3 series all have legit solutions that DONT require the hoops to jump through that the X3 requires. Look up the IdataLink ADS-BM1 remote start solution!
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Old 03-07-2015, 09:38 PM
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X3 - Remote Start?

I appreciate your response and I understand it all..

I believe I mention that honestly I regret ever getting this vehicle not for this reason but this vehicle compare to the rest ( like the ones you mention) is a nightmare. I don't understand why they did this to the X3 it almost appear to be a higher security then any other model, I would had assume it would been done on the x6 as a more expensive model but of course they had to do it on the model I selected. Honestly I seen the new x5,X6 and I hate the new design and not sure if it's just me but it looks so smaller then the X3 at least the back top they made it lower and more narrow (weird).

I agree I don't think will ever see a solution to the X3, I'm really not looking to change vehicles at least until the vehicle is 6 to 10 years old as is custom as to when I change them.

I had BMW in my pass and this is my 4th BMW but honestly I had it with there vehicles, I will look for a change next time. BMW never updates there Bluetooth software for there vehicles, always have issues every time Apple changes there IOS and modifies the Bluetooth it always causes on issue, still to this date I have major issues with the iPhone 6+ and not working correctly on the car screen (it works but many problems) hate the fact that they never got Siri option to work while connected via Bluetooth from steering wheel, hate BMW onboard system.

Well I can keep going for pages on everything I dislike about this X3 but not the right topic. Thank you for taking the time and answering my post. If ever a solution comes out please think of me and maybe let me know, if I still have this junk of car!

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Old 03-08-2015, 11:04 AM
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Are you referring to e series platform cars or f series platform cars for legit RS?

Just a point of reference it seems a lot of a new releases are moving to the e services route for adding remote start.

The Lexus nx just launched with remote start through their connected services platform enform. I'm assuming BMW would pursue this route as well. Plus BMWs interface isn't secure through security measures, more so that the programming measures that only BMW lays ip claim to. If one figures this out I'm pretty sure you can add remote start easily.

Passive remote start is asking for trouble with the key inside the car at all times.
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