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Old 11-04-2013, 03:48 PM
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Airbag light - Passenger Air Bag Cushion Module?

Hello fellow bimmer owners,
My airbag light along with the seat belt light lit up about two months ago. I did some research and figured that it might be the mat sensor that is triggering the light. It doesn't think there is a passenger in the seat when there actually is. I found out that my 2006 325i (with 30k miles) might be one of 100,000 recall vehicles they BMW might be recalling. I made the call to NABMW and disappointingly, my car is not in their recall list after giving them my vin number. I bitched at them with a little of moaning claiming that the car was manufactured with defect but they will not yield. I had no choice but to bring it to a private shop to confirm that that is the reason my lights are on. I dropped the car off in the morning picked it up in the evening. They charged me 113$ for diagnose fee and said I have to remove/replace the passage airbag cushion module for 800$ a long with 2000$ of repairs they determined I need. I paid the 113$ and left.
So does anyone know what other options there are to fix this light? Or should I pay 800$ to replace the module? Or another shop in Brooklyn, New york area?
I read that i could by pass it and trick the car into thinking that there is always a passenger in the seat? Could this be a solution?
I avoid driving this car when I have a passenger now. Its very annoying and inconvenient.
Thank you and have a nice day!
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:23 PM
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What is the downside to having the mat bypassed? Not much I can see since the airbag will still function.
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Airbag light - Passenger Air Bag Cushion Module?

I have a similar problem in my E60 525 found some bypasses on eBay under 50 bucks and seller claims it to be DIY aswell . Check it out


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Old 01-08-2014, 05:27 PM
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I have the same problem, with a twist...

Mine was already replaced in 2011 under the recall, then last month the light and codes came back. I contacted my dealer and they informed me the sensor carried a 2 year/unlimited mile warranty and I was a year too late. So I contacted BMW NA, explained my case, I too gave them hell about replacing a recalled part with something of similar quality and she told me it looks like my car is under an "extended warranty". How she put it though was I'd need to have it diagnosed by the dealer, not my indy, and then they may repair it no cost to me other than the diagnosis... I'm kind of on the fence whether I even want to bother with the dealer or just have my indy do it and be done with it, although I see BMW is set to issue another round of recalls starting this month on 75,000 more cars and x3s...
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The OP may or may not see this, but I would strongly recommend that he/she report the problem to NHTSA's complaint database at Safercar.gov.

Air bag related defects are taken very seriously by NHTSA. It is not at all unusual for the 'scope' of a recall to be widened after the initial recall as reports of defects in other production months are received.

BMW NA's refusal to address the defect on a "VIN" technicality is disappointing to say the least as owner safety should be the first priority; that was the purpose of the original recall.

There may already be "out of recall VIN" complaints in NHTSA's database that could prompt a review of the effectiveness of the original recall.
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Hello fellow bimmer owners,
My airbag light along with the seat belt light lit up about two months ago. I did some research and figured that it might be the mat sensor that is triggering the light. It doesn't think there is a passenger in the seat when there actually is. I found out that my 2006 325i (with 30k miles) might be one of 100,000 recall vehicles they BMW might be recalling. I made the call to NABMW and disappointingly, my car is not in their recall list after giving them my vin number. I bitched at them with a little of moaning claiming that the car was manufactured with defect but they will not yield. I had no choice but to bring it to a private shop to confirm that that is the reason my lights are on. I dropped the car off in the morning picked it up in the evening. They charged me 113$ for diagnose fee and said I have to remove/replace the passage airbag cushion module for 800$ a long with 2000$ of repairs they determined I need. I paid the 113$ and left.
So does anyone know what other options there are to fix this light? Or should I pay 800$ to replace the module? Or another shop in Brooklyn, New york area?
I read that i could by pass it and trick the car into thinking that there is always a passenger in the seat? Could this be a solution?
I avoid driving this car when I have a passenger now. Its very annoying and inconvenient.
Thank you and have a nice day!
OP...If you're still there...BMW announced a recall of mat sensors in December! You may be covered. This is an extension of BMW's 2008 recall for the same problem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/18/au...lls.html?_r=2&
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:29 AM
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I received the recall letter in the mail two days ago for my 06 330xi. This worked because my airbag light came on the same day and I was about to search the threads for reasons why.

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I got the same warnong light, but my vehicle is a 2006 BMW 325i. Even though is not a 2008 would it still be covered?

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Old 05-17-2014, 07:27 PM
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Old 05-17-2014, 08:42 PM
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I received letter back in Jan, but the dealership keeps saying I have to wait for yhe second letter

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Old 05-17-2014, 08:44 PM
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I have the same problem. I have a 2007 335i and when I called they said it wasn't covered and I had to pay out of my own pocket. I'm going to try what pointadango said and complain to the nhtsa about it

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Old 05-18-2014, 05:24 AM
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So has anyone received the second letter from BMW to take their vehicle in to have the repair?

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Old 06-10-2014, 06:59 PM
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Well. I have driven the car for more than 6 months with the warning lights on now. I have not receive any letter from BMW regarding any sort of recalll. I will call them again to verify that my car is indeed not within the list of recalled cars. I have recently purchased a occupancy emulator from ebay. If the call to BMW goes south, i will have to use the emulator to save some money.

If keep you guys updated if anyone is still following this thread.
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Old 06-10-2014, 07:40 PM
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I had mine replaced under the recall, BMW dealership said that wasnt the cause for my airbag light and now says I may need a new airbag. Cost $900 dollars. I said ill wait. Noone rides in my passenger seat

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Old 06-11-2014, 05:17 AM
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The oc3 passenger seat mat sensor can be coded off.

The passenger airbags will deploy regardless if there is a passenger or not.

I do this coding all the time for race seats.
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:23 PM
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I called BMW about the recall and they insist I pay out of my own pocket to get anything fixed. So I turned to the bypass. I installed it and took it to a private car shop to reset the warning lights but they fail to turn it off. My options are to drive with the lights on or pay 1k+ to fix it.
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:24 PM
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The oc3 passenger seat mat sensor can be coded off.

The passenger airbags will deploy regardless if there is a passenger or not.

I do this coding all the time for race seats.
Is this a service you could provide? Removing the lights on my board.
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:36 PM
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It's funny because I just coded a car today for this OC3 sensor however I had an issue.

Normally, there is one line in the ABG module you code off to prevent the warning from showing. However with today's vehicle, there was a permanent fault stored that would not clear itself. There is a TSB out for this issue and it is a known problem. Apparently it's a software glitch and the MRS5 modules needs to be updated. It was a fault related to the TCU, which is the telematics modules. The ABG will relay info to the TCU when it stores crash data and then notify BMW assist.

Updated the MRS5 module with ISTA but the fault still remained. So I was unsuccessful in coding the OC3 sensor out.

Anyway, my point was it will be hit or miss. I have coded it off successfully on many cars when doing race seat retrofits, but this car wouldn't turn it off.

New York is a bit of a haul to Philly but I do know coders in the NYC area I can refer you too. PM me.

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Old 07-05-2014, 08:08 AM
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The recall wss done in my 06 330xi, but then bmw said the light wouldnt go out and that I needed to pay $900 for a new airbag. Has anyone else experience this

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