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E46 (1999 - 2006)
The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 12-21-2013, 10:30 PM
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Wink Manual Trans, why sometimes only one wheel spins while doing burn out

i have a 2002 325ci with 18inch 5 series rims, i was wondering why on dry pavement sometimes when i do a burnout both wheel s spin and sometimes only one?
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Old 12-21-2013, 10:36 PM
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traction control

i do this obviously with the traction control completely off (triangle and yellow brake light come on)
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Old 12-21-2013, 11:13 PM
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Because like ALL non-M BMWs, your car has an open rear, hence the "pegleg burnout". (You can cure that for around $2500 or so).
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:31 AM
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Because like ALL non-M BMWs, your car has an open rear, hence the "pegleg burnout". (You can cure that for around $2500 or so).
but sometimes they both spin? can you put a diff. from an e46 m3 in the car, would they both spin all the time then?
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:08 AM
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but sometimes they both spin? can you put a diff. from an e46 m3 in the car, would they both spin all the time then?
For example this would do it i believe.
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Old 12-22-2013, 03:57 AM
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Old 12-22-2013, 04:12 AM
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True.
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:53 AM
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well its a brake assisted lsd whatever the hell that means. so no its not a true one, and your right about saving the rubber but it occurred when i was getting new tires i noticed it
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Old 12-22-2013, 09:18 AM
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well its a brake assisted lsd whatever the hell that means. so no its not a true one, and your right about saving the rubber but it occurred when i was getting new tires i noticed it
You are correct in your assumption that this is a pseudo/electro/semi/imitation LSD that is nothing like the real thing. And yes, every once in a while , you can get both wheels to spin, but only when all the planets are in proper alignment (and you can`t do it on demand).
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Old 12-22-2013, 09:40 AM
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With the price of tires for these cars....why???
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:33 PM
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Manual Trans, why sometimes only one wheel spins while doing burn out

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With the price of tires for these cars....why???
My guess is age - young age. This is the kind of stuff I used to do when all I had to worry about was my own college tuition. I baby the cars now compared to those days.


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Old 12-22-2013, 01:46 PM
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no im not young, i just wanted to see because i was getting new tires that day, it was just curiosity
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:50 PM
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Youth. 20 some odd years ago, I would bang 2nd gear in my Chevelle (a real 69 396 SS) and "lay a stretch". It was fun. A lotta fun! Now, I savor and hoard any and all remaining testosterone.
"Getting rubber in all four gears" was a trademark of those old torque-monsters

In my heyday, Sunoco 260 (leaded 104 Octane) was 38 cents a gallon....
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Old 12-22-2013, 02:58 PM
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"Getting rubber in all four gears" was a trademark of those old torque-monsters

In my heyday, Sunoco 260 (leaded 104 Octane) was 38 cents a gallon....
I never saw that. I used Sunoco 94, a can of 104+ octane boost, and occasional cans of lead additive. And a Jim Beam sour.
I only spun the tires a couple times going into 3rd. It was easy to miss that shift, and over-revving a big block was heart stopping.
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Re: Manual Trans, why sometimes only one wheel spins while doing burn out

I used to launch my 5.0 mustangs in 2nd gear for a very large cloud of smoke. Torque, it is a blast!

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i have a 2002 325ci with 18inch 5 series rims, i was wondering why on dry pavement sometimes when i do a burnout both wheel s spin and sometimes only one?
Look up "open differential".
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My biggest regret with my E46 was not buying an LSD years ago. Too late now, don't want to blow $2500 at this point.
I was quite disappointed to find out (after taking delivery of my car) that LSD was not a standard part of the Performance Package....that revelation failed my "Common Sense Test"....
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I never saw that. I used Sunoco 94, a can of 104+ octane boost, and occasional cans of lead additive. And a Jim Beam sour.
I only spun the tires a couple times going into 3rd. It was easy to miss that shift, and over-revving a big block was heart stopping.
We used to mix aviation gas with premium, I think the stuff we would get was 115/135 octane. Its a lean/rich octane rating for piston plane engines. A friend's father would buy it by the 55-gallon drum.

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u can only drift for so long as long as both wheels have 0 grip on the road (dirty roads) which will be for 1 donut or 1 power slide at a time. any more than that and u'll under-steer, or go straight since the power is distributed to tire that has more grip.
this is where the LSD comes in, which u guys don't have sorry couldn't help it
i wonder whatever happened with Mal and his diff build
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u can only drift for so long as long as both wheels have 0 grip on the road (dirty roads) which will be for 1 donut or 1 power slide at a time. any more than that and u'll under-steer, or go straight since the power is distributed to tire that has more grip.
this is where the LSD comes in, which u guys don't have sorry couldn't help it
i wonder whatever happened with Mal and his diff build
Correctomundo....with an LSD, and enough horsepower (or a loose-enough road surface) to create "Oversteer On Demand", you can steer the car with all 4 wheels until the cows come home....
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Old 12-23-2013, 12:46 AM
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i have a 2002 325ci with 18inch 5 series rims, i was wondering why on dry pavement sometimes when i do a burnout both wheel s spin and sometimes only one?
because you have an open diff aka one wheel drive lol
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Correctomundo....with an LSD, and enough horsepower (or a loose-enough road surface) to create "Oversteer On Demand", you can steer the car with all 4 wheels until the cows come home....
What is funny to me is when I had my Mustangs with LSD we always thought it sucked compared to a spool. But those were drag racing days.
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