Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > BMW i3 / i8 / ActiveE

BMW i3 / i8 / ActiveE
Are you excited about the upcoming BMW i3 or i8? Interested in learning more about the BMW ActiveE? This is the place for you!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-29-2014, 10:01 AM
floydarogers's Avatar
floydarogers floydarogers is offline
Pedant and Curmudgeon
Location: Renton, WA
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 3,616
Mein Auto: 335d, 328d, Toyota T100
i3 basically sold out

https://www.bmwcca.org/node/6985

80% of the i3's ordered/sold in Germany were to never-had-a-bmw, never-had-a-car people!
Great for BMW, bad for US buyers.
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
  #2  
Old 01-29-2014, 12:54 PM
Carac Carac is online now
Registered User
Location: Virginia
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 38
Mein Auto: SLS, E39 M5, E30 M3
Quote:
Originally Posted by floydarogers View Post
https://www.bmwcca.org/node/6985

80% of the i3's ordered/sold in Germany were to never-had-a-bmw, never-had-a-car people!
Great for BMW, bad for US buyers.
And i8 buyers since they use the same electric motor (tuned down in the i8), there's only so much supply to go around. They can't make them fast enough.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-29-2014, 04:05 PM
richschneid richschneid is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,581
Mein Auto: BMW 550i xDrive
When I called my dealer a couple of weeks ago to order an i8 he told me he is going to get only one car in 2014 and four i8s in 2015. He said those five cars were already sold. He put me down as number 6 on his list of orders. He will give me his first i8 in 2016. He said MSRP only. I think that's a pretty good deal considering that I wouldn't be surprised if they go for over list price.

Now the only question is if my aging back can tolerate the seat position for a long trip.
__________________
2011
550i xDrive/ImperialBlue/Beige/anthracite/DHP/sport/vent seats/convience/cold weather/driver assistance/prem 2/sport trans/fold down rears/4 zone/ACC/HUD/cameras/night vision/ipod and smart integration.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-29-2014, 05:36 PM
drlonline drlonline is offline
Registered User
Location: Los Angeles
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 44
Mein Auto: X5 3.5i Sport
Congrats on getting on the i8 list. You can now join the rest of us expectant folks who are anxiously awaiting the day when our formal orders will be placed. Until that time, we'll stay in touch via Bimmer blogs and share tidbits of info as they come available. Welcome to the club.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-18-2014, 06:01 PM
bilofsky bilofsky is offline
Registered User
Location: California
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 3
Mein Auto: Plug-in Prius
Dealers here in the San Francisco area have plenty of i3s in the initial three month allocation (15 at one dealer, 27 at another) and they're not anywhere near sold out yet. Talking about 3 to 6 month delivery, including ocean shipping.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-18-2014, 09:40 PM
tiburonh tiburonh is offline
Registered User
Location: CA
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 62
Mein Auto: X3, Q5
Quote:
Originally Posted by bilofsky View Post
Dealers here in the San Francisco area have plenty of i3s in the initial three month allocation (15 at one dealer, 27 at another) and they're not anywhere near sold out yet. Talking about 3 to 6 month delivery, including ocean shipping.
Over the past couple of weeks MULTIPLE posts have appeared on various BMW and i3 forums from CA dealers saying they have i3 slots available.

This is a big change from a couple of months ago when many of those same dealers asserted that they would be charging markups of $2,500 or $5,000 over MSRP and that they had already pre-sold all their initial allocations.

I'm guessing that these four factors contributed in a significant way to this change:

1. The dealers, as always, overhyped things at the beginning.
2. BMW's hideous finance terms have scared a lot of people away.
3. BMW's decision to limit the first few months of production for the US to the fully-loaded (and thus expensive) "launch edition" scared off even more people.
4. BMW's so far unexplained decision to not offer the sunroof on US models drove many prospective buyers in CA and other warm climate markets away.

If you find the right dealer and bargain hard right now, I think you could actually get a discount (small, but still a savings) off the MSRP.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-19-2014, 01:59 PM
Tirpitz Tirpitz is offline
Registered User
Location: California
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 79
Mein Auto: 2014 3GT 28i
I will be interested to see how this plays out. I have been on again/off again thinking about an i3. I work at home and the vast majority of my driving is 4-5 mile round trips taking kids to school and running errands. From that perspective the car makes a lot of sense. In addition we are considering putting solar on the house which would be a good electric car fit.

However I test drove one at the LA Auto Show and was not overly impressed. Thinking back on it the one thing that stands out is that I'd have to re-learn how to drive with the heavy regenerative braking. Plus there are other minor factors like it being a very small car compared to the X1 I'm driving right now. If I had to carry anything long it wouldn't fit.

I got invites to the local dealer test drive event and was going to go to give it another try. But first I read about the projected lease rates. This is a car I'd plan to lease but the rates were insane. I'd expect to see $400-$450 range not twice that. So that is off again for me.

Now it happens that this year I might have need of the tax credits so come say November/December if there are i3's on the lots and I can get a deal for one I might have to consider it again. Fortunately I love driving my X1 so I'm in no hurry to make a change. Oddly enough the other car I'd consider switching for is the 3 GT to get the current generation technology missing on the X1 plus that huge rear seat since I frequently have passengers to drive around. In any case I'd need a long test drive and I'd want to hear details of the rumored BMW car rental option for i3 owners so that I don't have to drive my wife's Accord on road trips.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-20-2014, 09:50 PM
Greg@Pacific BMW Greg@Pacific BMW is offline
Greg Poland Pacific BMW
Location: Glendale, CA
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,185
Mein Auto: 2011 X5 3.5 M sport
If anyone wants an allocation I have plenty available............
__________________
Warmest Regards,

Greg Poland
Pacific BMW
800 South Brand Blvd.
Glendale, CA 91204
818 254 1491
www.PacificBMW.com
gregpoland@pacificbmw.com
Euro delivery, PC delivery, Out of state-new and used car sales
Hours:T-F 1-8 PM,Sat 1 to 8pm, off Sun and Mon.



Current rides: 2013 X5 msport and 2013 535i
15% over wholesale/invoice for all accessories! and free shipping for Bimmerfest members!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEK7hG-3fyA
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-20-2014, 10:23 PM
tiburonh tiburonh is offline
Registered User
Location: CA
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 62
Mein Auto: X3, Q5
Wink I rest my case.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg@Pacific BMW View Post
If anyone wants an allocation I have plenty available............
Further proof that the i3 in the US is so far decidedly NOT the hot item that the prelaunch hype from BMW, the dealers, and the press had wanted us to believe.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-21-2014, 03:35 AM
Andrew*Debbie's Avatar
Andrew*Debbie Andrew*Debbie is offline
resU deretsigeR
Location: Anglesey
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,252
Mein Auto: Leaf Tekna
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tirpitz View Post
Thinking back on it the one thing that stands out is that I'd have to re-learn how to drive with the heavy regenerative braking.

We had the i3 out for an hour long test drive in and around Liverpool. Takes about 5 minutes to get used to the regen. By the end of the test drive I had completely adapted.


i3 is selling well here. There is about a 6 month backlog of orders.



Quote:
Plus there are other minor factors like it being a very small car compared to the X1 I'm driving right now. If I had to carry anything long it wouldn't fit.

There is always Enterprise when you need a pickup truck or a van. (BMW offer rentals in the UK but an X3 or X5 is expensive)




We didn't care for the i3. In our opinion it had too many negatives. In the end we decided to get a Leaf instead (gasp)

We are regretting not having a BMW around but not the decision to get the Leaf over the i3.


We may eventually get another BMW for our backup ICE car. X1 + Leaf would be our ideal combination.
__________________
The models and equipment (standard and optional) illustrated in this post reflect my misunderstanding of vehicles supplied by BMW AG to the German market. In other EU member states, the truthyness of my posts may vary. Please ignore this post. Subject to change.

Last edited by Andrew*Debbie; 02-21-2014 at 03:36 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-21-2014, 06:53 AM
bilofsky bilofsky is offline
Registered User
Location: California
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 3
Mein Auto: Plug-in Prius
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew*Debbie View Post
We had the i3 out for an hour long test drive in and around Liverpool. ... i3 is selling well here. There is about a 6 month backlog of orders.
So perhaps BMW will reduce the European backlog by lowering its US i3 allocations.

Except for California, where both the EV and REx are needed to meet the state's minimum zero pollution vehicle quota so BMW can keep selling all those ICE cars.

Wouldn't it be interesting if i3 incentives were offered in California so BMW could meet the quotas? Just fantasizin' here ...

(OTOH the dealers got three months' allocation in one lump, we're a couple of weeks into those three months, and the word isn't really out yet. So these are still early days for i3 sales.)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-21-2014, 09:53 AM
Technic's Avatar
Technic Technic is offline
Test... 1, 2 ,3
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,942
Mein Auto: 2012 M3 - 2014 528i
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg@Pacific BMW View Post
If anyone wants an allocation I have plenty available............
Is European Delivery available for the i3?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-21-2014, 11:06 AM
Andrew*Debbie's Avatar
Andrew*Debbie Andrew*Debbie is offline
resU deretsigeR
Location: Anglesey
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,252
Mein Auto: Leaf Tekna
nevermind
__________________
The models and equipment (standard and optional) illustrated in this post reflect my misunderstanding of vehicles supplied by BMW AG to the German market. In other EU member states, the truthyness of my posts may vary. Please ignore this post. Subject to change.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-21-2014, 01:13 PM
Atlantan Atlantan is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Atlanta - Gwinnett Co.
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 431
Mein Auto: 07 Quattroporte Sport GT
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiburonh View Post
Further proof that the i3 in the US is so far decidedly NOT the hot item that the prelaunch hype from BMW, the dealers, and the press had wanted us to believe.
+ 1. As of this week, I called around to find that Atlanta Metro Area dealers have slots available for possible April delivery.

Interesting ...

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/...3-electric-car

Last edited by Atlantan; 02-21-2014 at 01:16 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-21-2014, 01:52 PM
adrian's bmw's Avatar
adrian's bmw adrian's bmw is offline
'Fest Sponsor
Location: BMW/MINI of South Atlanta
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,711
Mein Auto: 2013 BMW AH 3 M Sport
Quote:
Originally Posted by Technic View Post
Is European Delivery available for the i3?
No, unfortunately, not at this time.
__________________

Top Performing Client Advisor Performance Center and European Delivery Specialist
#1 European Delivery Specialist 2012

www.bmwofsouthatlanta.com
Accepting pre-reservations up to five months from now for all European Deliveries.
Previous BMW's owned: 1987 325is, 2001 330xi, 2006 330Cic, 2008 535xi Wagon, 2009 328i, 2012 328i
Personal European Deliveries: 5/2008: 335i Vert, 10/2009: 328i Vert, 9/2010: 528i, 11/2011: 640i Coupe, 11/2012 528i, 11/2013: 528i
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-21-2014, 01:58 PM
Technic's Avatar
Technic Technic is offline
Test... 1, 2 ,3
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,942
Mein Auto: 2012 M3 - 2014 528i
Quote:
Originally Posted by adrian's bmw View Post
No, unfortunately, not at this time.
Ummm... I would guess that the i3 (pure electric) is straight MSRP at this time, correct?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-21-2014, 02:03 PM
adrian's bmw's Avatar
adrian's bmw adrian's bmw is offline
'Fest Sponsor
Location: BMW/MINI of South Atlanta
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,711
Mein Auto: 2013 BMW AH 3 M Sport
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiburonh View Post
Further proof that the i3 in the US is so far decidedly NOT the hot item that the prelaunch hype from BMW, the dealers, and the press had wanted us to believe.
How is a CA making an announcement that he has i3 availability proof that "it's NOT the hot item that the prelaunch hype from BMW, the dealers, and the press had wanted us to believe."? I mean, have a small number of allocations that I expect to both be ordered and some unsold to hopefully make it so we have some i3 inventory to sell. Mind you, Greg saying he has "plenty" can also be construed as " hey, I want to sell through all of our allocations so buy one from me" shill. Perfectly pitched.

On the contrary, I think it's one thing to have "hype" or some conspiracy theory about BMW and the media and another to have a marketing launch introducing a new and exciting model. No one ever said that there would be lines like folks waiting outside of Apple stores waiting for a new iPhone! C'mon.

BMW has issued a handful of allocations for both versions of the i3 for dealers to sell through. Great! Once there's interest and many have participated in the i3 ride and drives, dealers will have orderable models to sell. Sounds like a normal campaign to me.
__________________

Top Performing Client Advisor Performance Center and European Delivery Specialist
#1 European Delivery Specialist 2012

www.bmwofsouthatlanta.com
Accepting pre-reservations up to five months from now for all European Deliveries.
Previous BMW's owned: 1987 325is, 2001 330xi, 2006 330Cic, 2008 535xi Wagon, 2009 328i, 2012 328i
Personal European Deliveries: 5/2008: 335i Vert, 10/2009: 328i Vert, 9/2010: 528i, 11/2011: 640i Coupe, 11/2012 528i, 11/2013: 528i

Last edited by adrian's bmw; 02-21-2014 at 02:08 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-21-2014, 02:07 PM
adrian's bmw's Avatar
adrian's bmw adrian's bmw is offline
'Fest Sponsor
Location: BMW/MINI of South Atlanta
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,711
Mein Auto: 2013 BMW AH 3 M Sport
Quote:
Originally Posted by Technic View Post
Ummm... I would guess that the i3 (pure electric) is straight MSRP at this time, correct?
With $7500 in U.S. subsidy and varying levels of state incentives that could raise it to $10,000, that sounds like a hefty savings in itself. But so far, I can't see why it wouldn't be MSRP. Tesla's are MSRP, aren't they?
__________________

Top Performing Client Advisor Performance Center and European Delivery Specialist
#1 European Delivery Specialist 2012

www.bmwofsouthatlanta.com
Accepting pre-reservations up to five months from now for all European Deliveries.
Previous BMW's owned: 1987 325is, 2001 330xi, 2006 330Cic, 2008 535xi Wagon, 2009 328i, 2012 328i
Personal European Deliveries: 5/2008: 335i Vert, 10/2009: 328i Vert, 9/2010: 528i, 11/2011: 640i Coupe, 11/2012 528i, 11/2013: 528i
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-21-2014, 02:24 PM
mdlacroix mdlacroix is offline
Registered User
Location: DFW, Texas
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 10
Mein Auto: Volvo V90
Question for the dealers

Adrian, Do you know any of the details about the rental or exchange program for USA I3 owners to get access to larger/ICE cars for vacations, etc? I have read some of the details for the European/Brit owners, but none for us yet. Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-21-2014, 02:53 PM
Technic's Avatar
Technic Technic is offline
Test... 1, 2 ,3
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,942
Mein Auto: 2012 M3 - 2014 528i
Quote:
Originally Posted by adrian's bmw View Post
With $7500 in U.S. subsidy and varying levels of state incentives that could raise it to $10,000, that sounds like a hefty savings in itself. But so far, I can't see why it wouldn't be MSRP. Tesla's are MSRP, aren't they?
I'm not asking for a Tesla, Adrian.

I have never paid MSRP for any car and this i3 will not be the first one, that's why I'm asking. I can wait until late summer to see how this "demand" plays out. If by then this is still at MSRP then I will look for something else.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 02-21-2014, 04:52 PM
Justin@NCBMW Justin@NCBMW is offline
'Fest Sponsor
Location: SoCal
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 921
Mein Auto: MY13 X5 50i
The programs BMW came out with are preliminary...it will get finalized as we get closer to official launch.

The allocation they gave dealers are for 3 months worth; since they are launch vehicles... 95% can't be modify to a different "world" leaving us with only the Tera world right now.

Personally, I think in certain areas (SF, SD, NYC) the car will move very well and in others not so well.

Finally, a REX Mega with 20" whls, DC and Tech can be had for around $40,625.00 after tax credits and CA CCSE...thats not that bad. As a matter of fact even though there is no employee program offered for this car...I signed up for one.

I have a daily 90 miles around trip commute with HOV lanes that I can use for 90% of the drive...it's a win win for me. I went with the REX because i would like to drive down to SD or up to SB when time allows.

Is the i3 the prefect EV of course not but for my daily vehicle use it is exactly what I need.
__________________
Justin W.
Lease Portfolio/ED Manager
New Century BMW ~ 7 Time Center of Excellence recipient 2013 PIA winner

1139 W Main St Alhambra, CA 91081

(800) 286-4269 Main Office
(626) 570-8444 ext. 4675


Click here to email me!

Last edited by Justin@NCBMW; 02-21-2014 at 04:57 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 02-22-2014, 07:07 AM
Technic's Avatar
Technic Technic is offline
Test... 1, 2 ,3
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,942
Mein Auto: 2012 M3 - 2014 528i
Thanks for the info...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin@NCBMW View Post
The programs BMW came out with are preliminary...it will get finalized as we get closer to official launch.

The allocation they gave dealers are for 3 months worth; since they are launch vehicles... 95% can't be modify to a different "world" leaving us with only the Tera world right now.

Personally, I think in certain areas (SF, SD, NYC) the car will move very well and in others not so well.

Finally, a REX Mega with 20" whls, DC and Tech can be had for around $40,625.00 after tax credits and CA CCSE...thats not that bad. As a matter of fact even though there is no employee program offered for this car...I signed up for one.

I have a daily 90 miles around trip commute with HOV lanes that I can use for 90% of the drive...it's a win win for me. I went with the REX because i would like to drive down to SD or up to SB when time allows.

Is the i3 the prefect EV of course not but for my daily vehicle use it is exactly what I need.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 02-22-2014, 07:31 AM
adrian's bmw's Avatar
adrian's bmw adrian's bmw is offline
'Fest Sponsor
Location: BMW/MINI of South Atlanta
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,711
Mein Auto: 2013 BMW AH 3 M Sport
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdlacroix View Post
Adrian, Do you know any of the details about the rental or exchange program for USA I3 owners to get access to larger/ICE cars for vacations, etc? I have read some of the details for the European/Brit owners, but none for us yet. Thanks.
At this time, what I've heard is that BMW centers will accomodate i3 owners for these situations which call for a loaner when a long trip is necessary and beyond the usual i3 range. I'm going to i Training next month and will know more details about it.
__________________

Top Performing Client Advisor Performance Center and European Delivery Specialist
#1 European Delivery Specialist 2012

www.bmwofsouthatlanta.com
Accepting pre-reservations up to five months from now for all European Deliveries.
Previous BMW's owned: 1987 325is, 2001 330xi, 2006 330Cic, 2008 535xi Wagon, 2009 328i, 2012 328i
Personal European Deliveries: 5/2008: 335i Vert, 10/2009: 328i Vert, 9/2010: 528i, 11/2011: 640i Coupe, 11/2012 528i, 11/2013: 528i
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 02-22-2014, 07:38 AM
adrian's bmw's Avatar
adrian's bmw adrian's bmw is offline
'Fest Sponsor
Location: BMW/MINI of South Atlanta
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,711
Mein Auto: 2013 BMW AH 3 M Sport
Quote:
Originally Posted by Technic View Post
I'm not asking for a Tesla, Adrian.

I have never paid MSRP for any car and this i3 will not be the first one, that's why I'm asking. I can wait until late summer to see how this "demand" plays out. If by then this is still at MSRP then I will look for something else.
I know, I'm just citing an example of another electric car. But I get your point and it's perfectly understandable that you want the best deal. I trust it will work out somehow, someway for you where you stay in the BMW family with a new i3.
__________________

Top Performing Client Advisor Performance Center and European Delivery Specialist
#1 European Delivery Specialist 2012

www.bmwofsouthatlanta.com
Accepting pre-reservations up to five months from now for all European Deliveries.
Previous BMW's owned: 1987 325is, 2001 330xi, 2006 330Cic, 2008 535xi Wagon, 2009 328i, 2012 328i
Personal European Deliveries: 5/2008: 335i Vert, 10/2009: 328i Vert, 9/2010: 528i, 11/2011: 640i Coupe, 11/2012 528i, 11/2013: 528i
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 03-02-2014, 03:07 PM
Kandiru Kandiru is offline
Registered User
Location: OH
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 63
Mein Auto: B8 S4 6MT eLSD
As a hardcore 6MT performance sedan drive, the i8 is the first 2 pedal car in a long time to send shivers down my spine,
and that is just looking at the classic 70ies BMW shark nose will the beautifully sculpted body and amazing tech.

Looks like the R8 V10 6MT will be compared to the i8 before I get rid of my B8 S4 which is the greatest mule ever for the
3 kids and 4 season weather.
__________________
6MT AWD continuum: 2004 R32, 2006 S60R, TurboX, S4
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > BMW i3 / i8 / ActiveE
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms