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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
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Old 02-22-2014, 11:02 AM
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2013 X3 F25 headlamp leakage

I just bought 2nd x3 2.0i 7000km mileage
And i always have dew and water inside both of my headlight when it rain. But it disappear in a few moment after the rain stop. It is really annoying for a quiet expensive car. I have tell my dealer and say that my headlight aren't seal properly. But they say it normally happen because bmw's bi xenon headlight are really hot so they make a little gap in the headlight to decrease headlight temperature. Anybody got the same problem with me? Or is it right what the dealer say? ThanksClick image for larger version

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Old 02-22-2014, 12:00 PM
Want the Thrill Want the Thrill is offline
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Take it to a different dealer if the current one won't work with you on this. There is a TSB out for it (bulletin #332439).

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Old 02-23-2014, 07:49 AM
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I just bought 2nd x3 2.0i 7000km mileage
And i always have dew and water inside both of my headlight when it rain. But it disappear in a few moment after the rain stop. It is really annoying for a quiet expensive car. I have tell my dealer and say that my headlight aren't seal properly. But they say it normally happen because bmw's bi xenon headlight are really hot so they make a little gap in the headlight to decrease headlight temperature. Anybody got the same problem with me? Or is it right what the dealer say? ThanksAttachment 424366Attachment 424367Attachment 424368


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Sounds like my brother-in-law's Chevy dealership...everything is "normal"

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Old 02-23-2014, 08:25 AM
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It is certainly not normal. Go to that dealer after a rain storm and ask the manager to walk with you to take a look at all the other X3's headlights. Sometimes we get a bit of condensation on our headlights, but never to the extreme as the condensation in the pictures.
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:06 AM
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I think the gap does exists in all X3 lamps, but I only notice this kinda situation on the first day I got mine.


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Old 02-24-2014, 08:50 AM
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Old 02-24-2014, 08:55 AM
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It is certainly not normal. Go to that dealer after a rain storm and ask the manager to walk with you to take a look at all the other X3's headlights. Sometimes we get a bit of condensation on our headlights, but never to the extreme as the condensation in the pictures.

What do you mean "sometimes"? I get that condensation everytime when its rain. Even when its not rain and i wash my car (the engine in normal temperature).
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Old 02-24-2014, 09:38 AM
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Occasionally I do see some condensation inside the headlamp assembly, but only on during snow storm conditions after it has cooled off. The assembly is not sealed and it does allow air to flow through. Most assemblies like this have a way for air to get in and a drain to allow any condensation to leave. So, it it does this during some extreme conditions and it persists for days, that is not normal. It should clear up in a day or two. Allowing the condensation to build up over time will definitely cause some premature corroding of components, but it still takes awhile to have a significant impact (several months of constant condensation).
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Old 02-24-2014, 01:00 PM
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What do you mean "sometimes"? I get that condensation everytime when its rain. Even when its not rain and i wash my car (the engine in normal temperature).
We do not get condensation very often, it happens so seldom and minor that we don't keep track of the weather conditions when it happens. Your condensation is not normal.
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:31 AM
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This is what exactly happened on my 20i, I took it to BMW dealer and they came up with a simple solution that I do think it gonna work but it worked like a charm. They gave me a paper show how to do this job, it has part number and instruction on it from BMW, BMW have already aware this issue, they have a very simple solution for it by add 2 small rubber balls, insert them between the light house and the cap cover. I think by doing this the air comming in and out more easy so there are no condensation any more. Now I can wash my car with high pressure without any problem. I'm happy now. My car only 500 km on it.
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:54 AM
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Actually i've claim it to the dealer's manager, and he says that they will replace the headlight with the new one, so i wait for a week and the headlight delivered to indonesia. Then i drop my car in the dealer to put in the new headlight in the morning and they drive my car to my house in the evening. But its raining when they drive it to my house and the consensation happen again. I call the manager and ask have you replace my headlight with the new one? He says yes. And i tell everything about the condensation. He says," i told u that all bmw's headlight have a little gap, and he has handle a lot of claim from costumer with the condensation problem like me, so if u r not satisfied u can claim it again"
1st picture (before replaced)
2nd 3rd picture ( after replaced)

( i live in indonesia btw, and there is no winter, the coolest temperature of my city is about 18 celcius)
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:37 PM
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My previous Infiniti and Acuras had zenons, never any condensation. This heat thing sounds bogus to me. If they are not sealed, and constantly forming condensation, it is logical that the inside lens cover will not stay clean. And that dealer recommended "two rubber ball fix" sounds like a bad joke.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:16 PM
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My previous Infiniti and Acuras had zenons, never any condensation. This heat thing sounds bogus to me. If they are not sealed, and constantly forming condensation, it is logical that the inside lens cover will not stay clean. And that dealer recommended "two rubber ball fix" sounds like a bad joke.
i'm here to help people to clarify their problem, if two rubber ball does not fix it then why my problem get solved? they have done it in front of my eyes, at first I don't believe the solution until they show me the instruction and document from BMW. After they done it, I have asked them to test with high pressure water and they said don't need and tell me that if it happen again they will replace for me a new one, i'm not confident with their solution, right after got home I wash my car with high pressure on headlamp, magically no condensation any more, i'm happy now. If someone need picture of rubber balls inserted in my headlamp, I will show it to you. I have no clue why two small rubber ball can fix it. It is hard to believe.

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Old 03-12-2014, 07:44 PM
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i'm here to help people to clarify their problem, if two rubber ball does not fix it then why my problem get solved? they have done it in front of my eyes, at first I don't believe the solution until they show me the instruction and document from BMW. After they done it, I have asked them to test with high pressure water and they said don't need and tell me that if it happen again they will replace for me a new one, i'm not confident with their solution, right after got home I wash my car with high pressure on headlamp, magically no condensation any more, i'm happy now. If someone need picture of rubber balls inserted in my headlamp, I will show it to you. I have no clue why two small rubber ball can fix it. It is hard to believe.
My point was not that the "fix" would not work, but that the apparently faulty design should not require this makeshift correction.
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:34 AM
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i'm here to help people to clarify their problem, if two rubber ball does not fix it then why my problem get solved? they have done it in front of my eyes, at first I don't believe the solution until they show me the instruction and document from BMW. After they done it, I have asked them to test with high pressure water and they said don't need and tell me that if it happen again they will replace for me a new one, i'm not confident with their solution, right after got home I wash my car with high pressure on headlamp, magically no condensation any more, i'm happy now. If someone need picture of rubber balls inserted in my headlamp, I will show it to you. I have no clue why two small rubber ball can fix it. It is hard to believe.

Would you like to post the picture of the rubber balls here? Thanks or u can email me to budiarbie@yahoo.com
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Old 03-17-2014, 01:33 AM
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referring to the moisture inside your driving glass - windscreen sometime it gets moisture when raining, may be by insert this rubber balls, the air inside get balanced with the outside so there are no condensation.

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