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Old 02-09-2014, 10:34 PM
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Swissvax on Dakota leather?

My oyster dakota leather on my e90 has some shiny sections that are darker in color and it's noticeable. What's the best way to clean these seats without breaking down the coating? I saw swissvax leather cleaner and leather milk conditioner used on an M3, but it wasn't Dakota leather. Do I need to condition the seats at all?

My seats look shiny like the first picture. http://autoobsessed.com/shop/swissva...610-p-909.html

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Old 02-09-2014, 11:37 PM
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My oyster dakota leather on my e90 has some shiny sections that are darker in color and it's noticeable. What's the best way to clean these seats without breaking down the coating? I saw swissvax leather cleaner and leather milk conditioner used on an M3, but it wasn't Dakota leather. Do I need to condition the seats at all?

My seats look shiny like the first picture. http://autoobsessed.com/shop/swissva...610-p-909.html
I have used the Swissvax products you noted above. Worked great. Just need the cleaner and the milk conditioner. A little expensive but work very well.
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Old 02-11-2014, 12:23 PM
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My oyster dakota leather on my e90 has some shiny sections that are darker in color and it's noticeable. What's the best way to clean these seats without breaking down the coating? I saw swissvax leather cleaner and leather milk conditioner used on an M3, but it wasn't Dakota leather. Do I need to condition the seats at all?

My seats look shiny like the first picture. http://autoobsessed.com/shop/swissva...610-p-909.html
For $64 dollars you can get a lot better stuff than the "milk" which won't do anything. Your seats get shiny over time since your clothes "buff" and polish the leather every time you sit in them. Plus the leather has a plastic coating to ensure that it lasts for a long time, this milk won't penetrate it and most other leather stuff on the market won't do anything either.

Best course of action is a simple cleaning with Lexol Leather Cleaner and a few MicroFiber Towels. Alternatively, I like to use 6:1 -10:1 Water to woolite ratio for cleaning leather and the interior. It's gentle and cleans very well and removes a lot of the shininess that you seem to have.
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For $64 dollars you can get a lot better stuff than the "milk" which won't do anything. Your seats get shiny over time since your clothes "buff" and polish the leather every time you sit in them. Plus the leather has a plastic coating to ensure that it lasts for a long time, this milk won't penetrate it and most other leather stuff on the market won't do anything either.

Best course of action is a simple cleaning with Lexol Leather Cleaner and a few MicroFiber Towels. Alternatively, I like to use 6:1 -10:1 Water to woolite ratio for cleaning leather and the interior. It's gentle and cleans very well and removes a lot of the shininess that you seem to have.
So is this shiny look permanent and caused by the coating being worn down?
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So is this shiny look permanent and caused by the coating being worn down?
Yes and no, the coating gets polished by your clothes so it's not getting worn down extensively and this is the cause of the shine. Cleaning it with a cleaner will help the problem go away but you are in effect making the surface hazy.
The main problem is when lots of dirt accumulates and you start grinding that into the coating (IE the crumbs in seams); this is like rubbing sandpaper on the leather and will ruin the finish! But with normal wear and tear your leather should be fine. What will damage the coating is moderate to heavy abrasion such as cleaning the seats with a magic eraser (yes I've seen multiple people do this) or a very stiff brush, etc. In all honesty the woolite solution is my go to for most cars, but if you insist on a store products, Lexol (darkens leather over time though), Leatherique System (removes darkening from lexol with 1 application, but can damage some leathers) or Zaino leather in a Bottle (smells excellent!).
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Yes and no, the coating gets polished by your clothes so it's not getting worn down extensively and this is the cause of the shine. Cleaning it with a cleaner will help the problem go away but you are in effect making the surface hazy.
The main problem is when lots of dirt accumulates and you start grinding that into the coating (IE the crumbs in seams); this is like rubbing sandpaper on the leather and will ruin the finish! But with normal wear and tear your leather should be fine. What will damage the coating is moderate to heavy abrasion such as cleaning the seats with a magic eraser (yes I've seen multiple people do this) or a very stiff brush, etc. In all honesty the woolite solution is my go to for most cars, but if you insist on a store products, Lexol (darkens leather over time though), Leatherique System (removes darkening from lexol with 1 application, but can damage some leathers) or Zaino leather in a Bottle (smells excellent!).
I'm obsessive about keeping them clean, It's not shiny like the leather in a Honda, but it's not the perfect matte finish that the sides and back of the seats have. I'll try Zaino since so many people recommend it. Does leatherique harm Dakota leather?

Magic eraser?!? There are really BMW owners out there in the wild that would do that? Sad...
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