Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 5 Series > E60 (2004 - 2010)

E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-07-2014, 12:21 PM
gixman gixman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: nj
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 116
Mein Auto: 2008 BMW 535xi
Diff Fluid Change

Has anyone changed there diff fluid lately? What fluid do you guys recommend? 75w90 Red Line, Castro, Motul?

I was hoping to find a kit with the drain/fill plugs with the o rings but I can't find one.

Does this look like the right drain plug?
http://www.ecstuning.com/ES205597/
__________________

2008 535xi
Performance: PTF Custom Tune - Jake, AR Design Catless DP's, ER Intercooler, ER Charge Pipe, Forged Motor sports DV's, BMS DCI, Wedge Sport Flash/Coding
Suspension: UR Strut Tower Brace, UR Lower Strut Bar, M5 Pull Rods, RD Sport Sway Bars
Exterior: VMR VB3's 19's with Conti DSW’s, MTech front bumper, HID fog lights, Umnitza ICE LITE Angel Eyes, Clear LED Side Markers, Osram Xenon D1S 6000k headlights, OEM Gloss Black Kidney Grills
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
  #2  
Old 03-07-2014, 12:48 PM
schpenxel schpenxel is offline
DIY'er
Location: Greensboro, NC
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,304
Mein Auto: 2004 545i
Yes, 33117525064

http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...93&hg=33&fg=10
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-07-2014, 01:43 PM
gixman gixman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: nj
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 116
Mein Auto: 2008 BMW 535xi
Great. Thanks. I assume both diffs have a drain and fill plug so I will order 4. I'm going to go with the Motul 75/90.
__________________

2008 535xi
Performance: PTF Custom Tune - Jake, AR Design Catless DP's, ER Intercooler, ER Charge Pipe, Forged Motor sports DV's, BMS DCI, Wedge Sport Flash/Coding
Suspension: UR Strut Tower Brace, UR Lower Strut Bar, M5 Pull Rods, RD Sport Sway Bars
Exterior: VMR VB3's 19's with Conti DSW’s, MTech front bumper, HID fog lights, Umnitza ICE LITE Angel Eyes, Clear LED Side Markers, Osram Xenon D1S 6000k headlights, OEM Gloss Black Kidney Grills
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-07-2014, 01:50 PM
gixman gixman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: nj
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 116
Mein Auto: 2008 BMW 535xi
OEM Fluid is %0 buck for .5 liter! http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Site...luid/ES197413/
__________________

2008 535xi
Performance: PTF Custom Tune - Jake, AR Design Catless DP's, ER Intercooler, ER Charge Pipe, Forged Motor sports DV's, BMS DCI, Wedge Sport Flash/Coding
Suspension: UR Strut Tower Brace, UR Lower Strut Bar, M5 Pull Rods, RD Sport Sway Bars
Exterior: VMR VB3's 19's with Conti DSW’s, MTech front bumper, HID fog lights, Umnitza ICE LITE Angel Eyes, Clear LED Side Markers, Osram Xenon D1S 6000k headlights, OEM Gloss Black Kidney Grills
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-07-2014, 03:14 PM
flipwils11 flipwils11 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: St. Paul, MN
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 128
Mein Auto: '80 M535i, '08 550i MSprt
I used Redline 75w90.

I bought fill and drain plugs for the job on my 6spd 550i but only one had a drain plug. Can't remember which though, trans or diff?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-07-2014, 03:27 PM
DJtoad DJtoad is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Ellicott City, MD
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 343
Mein Auto: 2010 535i M Sport
Quote:
Originally Posted by gixman View Post
You're looking at the wrong fluid unless you've got an M LSD in your car. This is the link to the OEM fluid (Castro) and it's $19 / liter:

http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Site...uid/ES2562683/
__________________
2010 535i M Sport - Platinum Gray/Dakota Black/Anthracite Bamboo
Premium, Value, Cold Weather, Sport Auto, Navigation, Satellite, Logic 7, Comfort Access, Park Distance, Fold Down Rear Seats, Heated Rear Seats, Rear Side Airbags, JB4 G5 ISO, BMS DCIs, Proform Clear Bra, LUX H8 LED angel eyes
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-07-2014, 03:53 PM
schpenxel schpenxel is offline
DIY'er
Location: Greensboro, NC
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,304
Mein Auto: 2004 545i
Quote:
Originally Posted by flipwils11 View Post
I used Redline 75w90.

I bought fill and drain plugs for the job on my 6spd 550i but only one had a drain plug. Can't remember which though, trans or diff?
Transmission has a plastic drain plug built into the oil pan + fill plug further up, I believe it was metal

Diff should have both as well, probably both metal plugs. Well, since these are BMW's, who really knows
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-08-2014, 07:15 AM
GeorgeT's Avatar
GeorgeT GeorgeT is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Seneca, SC
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,016
Mein Auto: '07 750i BMW; '03 Z4 BMW
Make sure you remove the "Fill" plug first: if the drain plug is removed and then the fill plug can't be removed you're screwed.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-08-2014, 12:57 PM
gixman gixman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: nj
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 116
Mein Auto: 2008 BMW 535xi
Thanks for the feedback.

I ordered Royal Purple before I left work on Friday before I left work. Didn't see the Castrol link. The RP has the friction modifier. Is this fluid ok to use?

http://www.ecstuning.com/ES263484/

I also will change the transfer case fluid. http://www.ecstuning.com/ES2515438/

And I ordered 4 plugs just in case because I'm not sure if both Diffs have a drain and fill.
__________________

2008 535xi
Performance: PTF Custom Tune - Jake, AR Design Catless DP's, ER Intercooler, ER Charge Pipe, Forged Motor sports DV's, BMS DCI, Wedge Sport Flash/Coding
Suspension: UR Strut Tower Brace, UR Lower Strut Bar, M5 Pull Rods, RD Sport Sway Bars
Exterior: VMR VB3's 19's with Conti DSW’s, MTech front bumper, HID fog lights, Umnitza ICE LITE Angel Eyes, Clear LED Side Markers, Osram Xenon D1S 6000k headlights, OEM Gloss Black Kidney Grills
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-08-2014, 10:11 PM
rokdok rokdok is offline
Registered User
Location: Tucson
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 34
Mein Auto: 2005 545i
I did mine a few weeks back. Bought fluid from LandRover dealer (same as bmw fluid just a different package). Replaced the drain plug with a magnetic plug. Easy job!


Sent from BimmerApp mobile app
__________________
RokDok
___________________________
2005 545i - 137k Miles

Work Done (but not written up):
With a lot of help a Professional Mechanic:
- Engine Removal, Teardown, and Installation
- Cylinder Heads Valve Seals / Valve Lapping, Bank 1 - Eccentric Shaft / Intermediate Levers
- Replace Gaskets and Seals, Timing Guides
With a lot of swearing:
- Alternator Bracket Gasket, Brake Booster replacement

Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-09-2014, 01:32 AM
kskane's Avatar
kskane kskane is online now
From DownUnder
Location: Australia
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 718
Mein Auto: '04 525i M54 with 6HP19Z
Quote:
Originally Posted by gixman View Post
Thanks for the feedback.

I ordered Royal Purple before I left work on Friday before I left work. Didn't see the Castrol link. The RP has the friction modifier. Is this fluid ok to use?

http://www.ecstuning.com/ES263484/

I also will change the transfer case fluid. http://www.ecstuning.com/ES2515438/

And I ordered 4 plugs just in case because I'm not sure if both Diffs have a drain and fill.
Any full synthetic Differential oil 75W90 should works. I used Castrol Syntrax Manual 75W90 before and now replaced with another local supplier in AU to Penrite PRO GEAR 75W90. They both work fine.

Once you drain the differential, if you have any spare oil left, then flush the system with filling and drain plug open with fresh 500ml fluid (usually if you do this regularly, you will have that much left from the last service, I had 800 ml left). Then plug the drain plug and fill it up with fluid.

Good luck.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-09-2014, 09:56 AM
gixman gixman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: nj
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 116
Mein Auto: 2008 BMW 535xi
Thanks. Do you hand the torque specs for the drain/fill plugs?

Sent from BimmerApp mobile app
__________________

2008 535xi
Performance: PTF Custom Tune - Jake, AR Design Catless DP's, ER Intercooler, ER Charge Pipe, Forged Motor sports DV's, BMS DCI, Wedge Sport Flash/Coding
Suspension: UR Strut Tower Brace, UR Lower Strut Bar, M5 Pull Rods, RD Sport Sway Bars
Exterior: VMR VB3's 19's with Conti DSW’s, MTech front bumper, HID fog lights, Umnitza ICE LITE Angel Eyes, Clear LED Side Markers, Osram Xenon D1S 6000k headlights, OEM Gloss Black Kidney Grills
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-09-2014, 10:44 AM
bimmerfan52 bimmerfan52 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Arizona
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 942
Mein Auto: 545i
Quote:
Originally Posted by gixman View Post
Thanks. Do you hand the torque specs for the drain/fill plugs?

Sent from BimmerApp mobile app
For both plugs with sealing o-ring torque spec is 65 Nm or 48 ft-lb.

If you have the old style plugs without o-rings it is suggested that you replace them. If you don't the torque spec is 60 Nm or 44 ft-lb.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-10-2014, 08:22 AM
gixman gixman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: nj
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 116
Mein Auto: 2008 BMW 535xi
Rokdok,

Where did you purchase the magnetic drain plug?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rokdok View Post
I did mine a few weeks back. Bought fluid from LandRover dealer (same as bmw fluid just a different package). Replaced the drain plug with a magnetic plug. Easy job!


Sent from BimmerApp mobile app
__________________

2008 535xi
Performance: PTF Custom Tune - Jake, AR Design Catless DP's, ER Intercooler, ER Charge Pipe, Forged Motor sports DV's, BMS DCI, Wedge Sport Flash/Coding
Suspension: UR Strut Tower Brace, UR Lower Strut Bar, M5 Pull Rods, RD Sport Sway Bars
Exterior: VMR VB3's 19's with Conti DSW’s, MTech front bumper, HID fog lights, Umnitza ICE LITE Angel Eyes, Clear LED Side Markers, Osram Xenon D1S 6000k headlights, OEM Gloss Black Kidney Grills
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-10-2014, 08:23 AM
gixman gixman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: nj
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 116
Mein Auto: 2008 BMW 535xi
thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmerfan52 View Post
For both plugs with sealing o-ring torque spec is 65 Nm or 48 ft-lb.

If you have the old style plugs without o-rings it is suggested that you replace them. If you don't the torque spec is 60 Nm or 44 ft-lb.
__________________

2008 535xi
Performance: PTF Custom Tune - Jake, AR Design Catless DP's, ER Intercooler, ER Charge Pipe, Forged Motor sports DV's, BMS DCI, Wedge Sport Flash/Coding
Suspension: UR Strut Tower Brace, UR Lower Strut Bar, M5 Pull Rods, RD Sport Sway Bars
Exterior: VMR VB3's 19's with Conti DSW’s, MTech front bumper, HID fog lights, Umnitza ICE LITE Angel Eyes, Clear LED Side Markers, Osram Xenon D1S 6000k headlights, OEM Gloss Black Kidney Grills
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 03-17-2014, 06:34 PM
gixman gixman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: nj
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 116
Mein Auto: 2008 BMW 535xi
I decided to change the transfer case fluid first because the fill plug was hard to get at. What a PITA. It is covered by a heat shield and I needed to drop the exhaust a few inches just get at it. Even with the heat shield removed there is limited space. I had to borrow a tool a tool from my friend or you can make one. You need a stubby piece of 14mm hex key(you need to cut it) and a angled open end wrench. I plus was I discovered my DP gaskets had a small leak so I replaced those as well. I also installed RD Sways and did a drain/fill on the coolant.



I didn't have time to get to the Diffs. The front Diff has a drain and fill plug and there is access to the fill. The rear diff has one drain/fill plug so you need to use suction to get the fluid out(remember I'm talking about a 535xi, other models may be different). I thin I'm going to send the Royal Purple back to ECS and order the OEM Castro that DJToad pointed me to.
__________________

2008 535xi
Performance: PTF Custom Tune - Jake, AR Design Catless DP's, ER Intercooler, ER Charge Pipe, Forged Motor sports DV's, BMS DCI, Wedge Sport Flash/Coding
Suspension: UR Strut Tower Brace, UR Lower Strut Bar, M5 Pull Rods, RD Sport Sway Bars
Exterior: VMR VB3's 19's with Conti DSW’s, MTech front bumper, HID fog lights, Umnitza ICE LITE Angel Eyes, Clear LED Side Markers, Osram Xenon D1S 6000k headlights, OEM Gloss Black Kidney Grills
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03-18-2014, 07:38 AM
HPIA4v2 HPIA4v2 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: washington
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,168
Mein Auto: E60, E71, E92
my experience with the old xfer case, the fluid is dirtier than the rear-diff. So I think you did the right thing to do xfer case first.

I haven't replaced my rear-diff, the only fluid that still original in my car, cause the there is no drain plug so you right you need to use suction device with a hose to drain/fill.
BTW, to whom has done the rear-diff, was the fluid looked bad? like alot of metal shaving, burned etc?
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 03-18-2014, 08:29 AM
gixman gixman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: nj
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 116
Mein Auto: 2008 BMW 535xi
I found a site that sells magnetic drain plugs for the diff's/transfer case. Too late for the transfer case for me but I may buy 2 for the diffs. They don't use the rubber O ring though and they are 35 bucks a pop.

http://www.drainplugmagnets.com/bmwautomobiles.php
__________________

2008 535xi
Performance: PTF Custom Tune - Jake, AR Design Catless DP's, ER Intercooler, ER Charge Pipe, Forged Motor sports DV's, BMS DCI, Wedge Sport Flash/Coding
Suspension: UR Strut Tower Brace, UR Lower Strut Bar, M5 Pull Rods, RD Sport Sway Bars
Exterior: VMR VB3's 19's with Conti DSW’s, MTech front bumper, HID fog lights, Umnitza ICE LITE Angel Eyes, Clear LED Side Markers, Osram Xenon D1S 6000k headlights, OEM Gloss Black Kidney Grills
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-18-2014, 03:57 PM
kskane's Avatar
kskane kskane is online now
From DownUnder
Location: Australia
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 718
Mein Auto: '04 525i M54 with 6HP19Z
Quote:
Originally Posted by gixman View Post
I found a site that sells magnetic drain plugs for the diff's/transfer case. Too late for the transfer case for me but I may buy 2 for the diffs. They don't use the rubber O ring though and they are 35 bucks a pop.

http://www.drainplugmagnets.com/bmwautomobiles.php
For the diff drain/fill plug, you can actually replace the O-rings on the old plugs itself instead of replacing it. Just do a search on ebay for Diff/Differential O-rings.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-18-2014, 08:56 PM
rokdok rokdok is offline
Registered User
Location: Tucson
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 34
Mein Auto: 2005 545i
I purchased the Magnetic plug at Bavarian autosport:

SS M22X1.5 Magnetic Drain Plug - Differential - Dimple 2005 545i - $31.95

New fluid (Left) and old fluid (right) - This is the fist change at about 136,000 miles. No signs of metal and it didn't smell burnt either. Just darker!

Rock
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Differential Fluid Change.jpg
Views:	62
Size:	44.8 KB
ID:	428931  

Last edited by rokdok; 03-18-2014 at 08:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 03-19-2014, 07:53 AM
HPIA4v2 HPIA4v2 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: washington
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,168
Mein Auto: E60, E71, E92
Quote:
Originally Posted by rokdok View Post
I purchased the Magnetic plug at Bavarian autosport:

SS M22X1.5 Magnetic Drain Plug - Differential - Dimple 2005 545i - $31.95

New fluid (Left) and old fluid (right) - This is the fist change at about 136,000 miles. No signs of metal and it didn't smell burnt either. Just darker!

Rock
Thanks.
That seems consistent to my finding when I changed the diff fluid on my X5, so it's not higher priority to me compare to trans fluid or even xfer case fluid.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 03-23-2014, 04:45 PM
Hogie's Avatar
Hogie Hogie is offline
It's 5 O'clock Somwhere
Location: Liv'n where I am
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 579
Mein Auto: 330i, Z3 2.8L, 545i
OK if I understand correctly for an e60 non-M I do not need the friction modifier, just use 75W 90W gear oil which I believe is a ML-5. Is this right.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 03-24-2014, 12:49 PM
gixman gixman is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: nj
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 116
Mein Auto: 2008 BMW 535xi
I beleive that is correct.
__________________

2008 535xi
Performance: PTF Custom Tune - Jake, AR Design Catless DP's, ER Intercooler, ER Charge Pipe, Forged Motor sports DV's, BMS DCI, Wedge Sport Flash/Coding
Suspension: UR Strut Tower Brace, UR Lower Strut Bar, M5 Pull Rods, RD Sport Sway Bars
Exterior: VMR VB3's 19's with Conti DSW’s, MTech front bumper, HID fog lights, Umnitza ICE LITE Angel Eyes, Clear LED Side Markers, Osram Xenon D1S 6000k headlights, OEM Gloss Black Kidney Grills
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 03-24-2014, 02:11 PM
Jaystyles's Avatar
Jaystyles Jaystyles is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: New Jersey
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 269
Mein Auto: 545i Sport
Got my diff fluid at my indy and what a difference...The car feels so much smoother and has a little more pep. Its not a placebo effect. Highly recommend getting this changed.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 05-12-2014, 09:25 AM
wallstreetblues wallstreetblues is offline
Registered User
Location: Pakistan
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 10
Mein Auto: BMW 530i
Gear oil change

I have a 2006 530i petrol, I was wondering if someone could guide me as to what is the frequency of gear oil change and more specifically in my case as the gear oil has not been changed since its manufacture.

The vehicle has done 15000 miles and driven very sparingly


Best Regards


Asif
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 5 Series > E60 (2004 - 2010)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms