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Old 03-14-2014, 07:00 AM
MCDz3 MCDz3 is offline
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Attached are two pics of my drivers seat. Quite worn as you see! Question is whether it's repairable, especially the split seam on the bottom part. Any suggestions are appreciated!

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Old 03-14-2014, 06:36 PM
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Attached are two pics of my drivers seat. Quite worn as you see! Question is whether it's repairable, especially the split seam on the bottom part. Any suggestions are appreciated!

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Definitely and "easily" repairable because there are no ruptures. You need to sew the seam and paint the bolster (maybe whole seat so it will be like a new?). Leather on car seats is always painted and that paint has weared off, can't fix properly with some kind of magic stuff. Of course somebody can do it for you.

Edit there is a rupture but still it is repairable. Rupture needs sewing and filler + paint.

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Old 03-14-2014, 07:33 PM
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It depends on how well you want it fixed. There are fill and repairs that work pretty well, such as Magic Mender. You can take it to an upholstery shop that can replace the worn pieces, but matching old leather is very difficult. They might recommend replacing all of the leather. You can get replacement leather from LeatherSeats.com, who already have Sport seat patterns. (It looks like you have Sport seats).
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Old 03-14-2014, 09:50 PM
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Depends

All that stuff is repairable, just depends on how much time effort and expense. Cheapo dyi is to remove the skins and resew by hand (yeah by hand) the squab split. Just get a little more material into the seam. Side bolster is a little tougher. Reinforce the back of entire panel with rip stop nylon and gorrilla glue keeping the split tight together during cure. You can try building up the crack with a vinyl repair kit (Autozone etc) just make sure your comfortable with doing it right, i.e. practice. 600 grit sand the rough worn stuff then recoat the area, black is never going to be a noticable difference, with SEM. Any good indi upholsterer with do only what you want done. Go to your local old school/vintage car club and ask for a recommendation.

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Old 03-15-2014, 12:34 PM
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Definitely and "easily" repairable because there are no ruptures. You need to sew the seam and paint the bolster (maybe whole seat so it will be like a new?). Leather on car seats is always painted and that paint has weared off, can't fix properly with some kind of magic stuff. Of course somebody can do it for you.

Edit there is a rupture but still it is repairable. Rupture needs sewing and filler + paint.
Would you recommend a particular brand of leather paint?
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Old 03-15-2014, 08:08 PM
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SEM upholstery paint

SEM sold at auto paint supply shops and eBay. $13-$15 a can ( will do a whole seat).
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:24 AM
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Seat belt scuff ?

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Definitely and "easily" repairable because there are no ruptures. You need to sew the seam and paint the bolster (maybe whole seat so it will be like a new?). Leather on car seats is always painted and that paint has weared off, can't fix properly with some kind of magic stuff. Of course somebody can do it for you.

Edit there is a rupture but still it is repairable. Rupture needs sewing and filler + paint.
Not sure how to fix it but it looks like seat belt scuff , after removing your seat belt always make sure it retracks back where it should be my car is not that bad i have seen some that are terrible
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:13 AM
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If you would like it done professionally, that is an option too. I bought an audi with a tear in one of the seat bottom bolsters. It was the part that isn't leather, and the surface actually came off. The PO repaired it with some sort of goo, then died it. It probably looked okay when it was done, but didn't really last. So, I took it to a local upholstery shop. He took the seat apart, removed the stitching and pulled out the panel on both sides of the seat bottom. Then, he sewed in real leather that matches the center part of the seat and reassembled. There is a very slight mismatch in color, but if I didn't point it out to you, you wouldn't notice. Otherwise, it looks totally factory. That cost me about $400 to replace the two panels with the actual Audi leather. He was able to get the leather with the correct dye with a few days notice. If you did it that way, you could replace both sides of the seat back so they match in texture and overall "shine".
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Old 03-28-2014, 10:00 AM
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I looked at the cost of seat panel replacement but way to expensive. The seat bottom where the Seam broke, the leather is so dry and shrunk I can't get the bottom to stretch so I devised a little idea, maybe more like cranial flatulance actually! Here's a pic of what I'm trying to do.
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Old 03-28-2014, 10:30 AM
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You know if you look around at some of the car parts yards you may find seats in better shape then your , , I always see them advertizing on craigslist with z parts I also think what you are trying to do by streching may also work but i am not sure of the out come
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Old 03-28-2014, 12:18 PM
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What you really need to do is remove the upholstery from the seat bottom and restitch it. It not that difficult, but a bit tedious. While it may seem too tight now, the foam will compress when the cover goes back on. Hog rings and hog ring pliers help.
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Old 03-28-2014, 12:53 PM
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LOL, hangin bricks from seat covers... no offense MCD.
Hey, if your cruise control is busted, you could double purpose that brick!
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:19 PM
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I was told by the leather repair guy at LeatherSeats.com that my seat leather had probably gotten soaked by rain at some point, which shrinks and hardens the leather. There is a chance that you can get it to soften and stretch a bit with steam, but it may be too far gone.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:58 PM
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LOL, hangin bricks from seat covers... no offense MCD.

Hey, if your cruise control is busted, you could double purpose that brick!

Ok ok wrench13, laugh out loud as much as you want but let's see who's laughing when I get back to charlotte from mn next week and find the brick did the trick!


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Old 03-30-2014, 07:39 AM
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Actually, my passenger seat has the same issue, so if this works for you, I'll be looking around for a piece of Irish confetti too.
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:02 AM
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I think for this to work you will need to wet the leather again, maybe with some neetsfoot oil to soften it.
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:11 AM
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Whether the brick construction works or not, is kind of irrelevant. (IMHO all its going to do is imprint clamp marks in the leather) Nobody is going to be able to blind stitch the seam with the cover on the seat so that its going to hold. One way or another you're going to have to remove the leather cover, restitch and reinstall. Not that difficult, but not easy either.

The side bolster is shot. Yes, it can be patched and painted but will look like c**p. It should be replaced.

Do it right the first time or do it wrong and redo it. Don't like or want all of the work involved to do it right. Buy a set of high quality seat covers. Then both seats will match.
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Old 04-02-2014, 02:40 PM
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Well I stirred up some good conversation! I don't have any idea if this will work... But it might, that's all I need right now. I'm still in mpls mn with my sick father and may be back in a week. I guess at that point I may have something to share...

Thanks all!
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