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Old 04-03-2014, 05:54 PM
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I am still undecided on which exact config I want (the dealer has quite a few within $500 of eachother)

But as an example, we did the following deal:

10k miles, 64% residual, 0.00081 MF, 36 month

MSRP: 37200
Sale price: 33692
Rebate: 1000
Acquisition Fee: 925 --> I will try to get this to 725
Base Monthly Payments: 318.32
Monthly Payments with tax: 346.17

Since I'm doing 7 MSDs, they have it computed as 7x$450=$3150

Also, there are some fees listed on the quote that I'm quite sure about.

It lists a "total initial fees" of $100.50 and "total annual fees" of $337

All in all, the driveoff costs are $4052.62

1. Do these 2 fees cover the title, registration, other DMV fees? or is that extra?
2. How did they get to $4052.62? the 2 fees + 1st month payment + MSD does not add up to it
3. When asked how the $450 figure for MSDs came about, they explained that they compute that based on the pre-discounted MF (0.0017), so that came out to $401 per month. Is that reasonable?
4. In the quote, it says "security deposit" of $3150, this is legit right? I definitely just want the MSD, which is refundable at end of the lease, even in case of totaling the car, correct?

I've attached a scan of the quote that the dealer gave me.
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Old 04-03-2014, 06:41 PM
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msds are the payment AFTER the msd buydown, not before.it should be 350X 7

looks like they are hitting you for full markup (aka full profit) on MF and acq rate.


i suspect they have some other profit hidden in there, have you tried contacting the board sponsors (i think they are in Socal however)
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Old 04-03-2014, 06:45 PM
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msds are the payment AFTER the msd buydown, not before.it should be 350X 7

looks like they are hitting you for full markup (aka full profit) on MF and acq rate.


i suspect they have some other profit hidden in there, have you tried contacting the board sponsors (i think they are in Socal however)
I think MF is buy rate (.0013) less .00049 MSD, but certainly a mark up on the Acq. Fee.
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:18 PM
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I think MF is buy rate (.0013) less .00049 MSD, but certainly a mark up on the Acq. Fee.
ah, i only saw they were basing the MSDs on the 0.00170 rate.
which is wrong. the SD amount should be 2450. if they are collecting the 3150, i suspect they are sneaking the extra 700 in as something else. bmwfs is very clear, the MSD amount is based on the payment after the reduction.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:44 PM
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ah, i only saw they were basing the MSDs on the 0.00170 rate.
which is wrong. the SD amount should be 2450. if they are collecting the 3500, i suspect they are sneaking the extra 700 in as something else. bmwfs is very clear, the MSD amount is based on the payment after the reduction.

My CA tried to start at .0017, but we were at the buy rate minutes later.


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Old 04-07-2014, 08:49 AM
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My car ended up at a similar MSRP after all said and done, $33,500. I put $725 AQ and $399 first month payment down. Paying $399 per month, 36 month, 12k miles per year
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Old 04-09-2014, 05:52 PM
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Thanks everyone who helped me out.

I ended up going with an Alpine White 328d from Greg Poland in Glendale for $387 a month + $2800 MSD
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