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Where do you tell the status #? I'm in My BMW on the BMWusa website under my production #. In the vehicle timeline, it says my order has been documented but not much else. Also, my car is incorrectly listed as an xDrive right now (I ordered RWD), but I hear that there can be things that show up incorrectly early on in production process....is this correct?
To verify that your dealer is not full of crap, ask them to email/fax you a VIR (Vehicle Inquiry Report). It will have the current production status. If is anything lower than 150 status, then changes can be made. If not, well at least you will get your car sooner!
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^Thanks...will that VIR also show every itemized option that I got on it?
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the car will remain with the 130mph speed limiter unless the OP cancels and reorders.
Damn I had no idea about this
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:27 PM
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^Thanks...will that VIR also show every itemized option that I got on it?
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the VIR will show you exactly how the car is being built.
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as long as you are not yet at status 150 changes can be made.
yes to the increased top speed limiter- S840a (high speed syncronisation) aka 155 mph limiter is standard on sport pack cars, deleted with ZAS (all season tires) readding ZPT should automatically readd S840a

S840A HOCHGESCHWINDIGKEITSABSTIMMUNG High speed synchronisation
Wait, so I am getting M sport, but all season tires. They will reduce my speed limiter?
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Wait, so I am getting M sport, but all season tires. They will reduce my speed limiter?
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ZAS deletes S840A
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I guess we'll have to all just do Dinan Stage 2 upgrades to get that limiter removed
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yes.
ZAS deletes S840A
My first thought was that this is ridiculous, and I was never told this would happen by my CA.

But then I thought....when will I ever need to go over 130mph? I don't plan to race on special tracks. Guess I'll have to settle for the "slow" 130mph limiter.
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whats the reasoning behind the limiter? Clearly it's not a legal requirement
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whats the reasoning behind the limiter? Clearly it's not a legal requirement
Because BMW has to limit the car to the speeds the tires are rated for. If they're going to put all-seasons on, they will limit the car to well within the rating the OEM tires can handle.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:17 PM
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Because BMW has to limit the car to the speeds the tires are rated for. If they're going to put all-seasons on, they will limit the car to well within the rating the OEM tires can handle.
This.

this is pretty much the deciding factor for the speed limiter, the tyres. bmw equips the NA market cars with H or V rated all seasons (in the EU all season tyres are not an option, at least on the 3 series). lowest possible speed rating is set across the board.

cars with S840A (high speed syncronisation) are all spec'ed with Z rated (y or w to be precise) summer tyres to go with a 155mph limiter. on the E90, S840A also came with an oil cooler. 335i Xdrives with the all season tyres got the 130mph limiter and no air-oil cooler.
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This.

this is pretty much the deciding factor for the speed limiter, the tyres. bmw equips the NA market cars with H or V rated all seasons (in the EU all season tyres are not an option, at least on the 3 series). lowest possible speed rating is set across the board.

cars with S840A (high speed syncronisation) are all spec'ed with Z rated (y or w to be precise) summer tyres to go with a 155mph limiter. on the E90, S840A also came with an oil cooler. 335i Xdrives with the all season tyres got the 130mph limiter and no air-oil cooler.
FWIW,

The Potenza RE960AS RFTs on my F30 have a W speed rating, 168 mph. Per listings on Tire Rack for all season RFTs in the factory OEM size of 225/45-18, all had a speed rating lower than 155 mph.

My 2008 535Xi with standard 17" wheels and Goodyear RS-A all season tires (W rated?) had the higher, 155 mph, top speed limiter as standard.

My 2006 330Xi with standard 17" wheels and Turanza all season tires (H rated?) did not have the higher top speed limiter.

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Well, I got a copy of my VIR from my CA and, to my surprise, I saw summer performance tires listed (with an N/C next to it) and no mention of my original request for the all-season tires! Again, I ordered a 335 RWD Sport line. Does this mean that they must have goofed up my original request for the all-seasons (I hope?) and now I'm getting the summer performance after all? Put another way....can I trust to a "T" every option listed on there? Or...is there a possibility that something like the all-season tire choice just might not show up on there?
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Well, I got a copy of my VIR from my CA and, to my surprise, I saw summer performance tires listed (with an N/C next to it) and no mention of my original request for the all-season tires! Again, I ordered a 335 RWD Sport line. Does this mean that they must have goofed up my original request for the all-seasons (I hope?) and now I'm getting the summer performance after all? Put another way....can I trust to a "T" every option listed on there? Or...is there a possibility that something like the all-season tire choice just might not show up on there?
yup, as long as you have ZPT you are good to go.
what is your status listed as?
if the VIR says ZPT, and the status is 150 or higher, its locked in.
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It said 112....which is why I was baffled that my CA said nothing could be done....even after his boss made phone calls to BMW headquarters. Oh well....if there's no mention of all-seasons, I assume I'm good!
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It said 112....which is why I was baffled that my CA said nothing could be done....even after his boss made phone calls to BMW headquarters. Oh well....if there's no mention of all-seasons, I assume I'm good!
whats the date on the VIR?
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The car was ordered on 3/9, I got my production # from my CA late on 3/11, and the VIR (which he emailed me today) is dated 3/11.

I requested to change my order to the summer perf tires on the morning of 3/12 and the sales general manager claims he checked if a change could be made and that it was too late. Hmmm....maybe the general manager didn't specify WHAT the change was, and before he could get the word "tires" out, he was told that no changes could be made. When....in fact, the summer tires may have been ordered all along?
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Well I got ZAS, and it's too late to change

Nerd when we race, let's only do it to 130mph
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Personally never had a great OEM all-season tire. You are always going to sacrifice grip and wet traction for tread wear.
I've had nothing but great experience with BMW oem Conti's, and I disagree about the "sacrifices". Mine have great grip and traction control.
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My F-31 M Sport is in finishing touches with the all season square setup. I am trying to see if they can swap out the all seasons with the summer staggered setup. Don't think they have done this before, so the manager is trying to figure out if there will be any cost to swap out. I figured that since this is a no cost upgrade, that it wouldn't be too complicated or cost anything to swap with another M Sport on the lot. In NJ I'm sure most people would want the all seasons anyway bc of the weather. And if the speed limiter can't be changed as well after factory I would be ok with that. Don't think I will be making it to the track, and I only plan on 120 on route 78 anyway.

Hopefully they can make this happen, especially since I thought I was getting the staggered setup and ended up with all seasons. Has anyone successfully had this switch before picking up their vehicle?

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cant be done. once the car hits status 150, the order cannot be changed, you need to start all over (meaning the dealer would need to take the car for inventory, and give you a new production allocation)
they also cant change the tires at the vdc and give the car the raised speed limiter, that needs to be part of the vehicle order from when the car was first built. the wheels and tires can be swapped, but that would be a port installed accessory ($$$ as you are basically buying a full wheelset upgrade, not the factory option price)


the only option at this point is to get the dealer to swap tires. the car will remain with the 130mph speed limiter unless the OP cancels and reorders.
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My F-31 M Sport is in finishing touches with the all season square setup. I am trying to see if they can swap out the all seasons with the summer staggered setup. Don't think they have done this before, so the manager is trying to figure out if there will be any cost to swap out. I figured that since this is a no cost upgrade, that it wouldn't be too complicated or cost anything to swap with another M Sport on the lot. In NJ I'm sure most people would want the all seasons anyway bc of the weather. And if the speed limiter can't be changed as well after factory I would be ok with that. Don't think I will be making it to the track, and I only plan on 120 on route 78 anyway.

Hopefully they can make this happen, especially since I thought I was getting the staggered setup and ended up with all seasons. Has anyone successfully had this switch before picking up their vehicle?
well, the problem with the swap will be that the car that gets your wheel set will have a limiter higher than the tires can handle. its a no charge option at time of production.

the other fun issue especially in the tristate is to find a car on the ground with staggered summer tires. i know my dealer orders all cars with all seasons unless sepcifically requested; on an X drive, ZAS is standard. and 99% of lot cars are Xdrive in our area.
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[QUOTE=Orient330iNYC;7436622]its either going to be:
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I HAD THE CONTIS ON BOTH OF MY PREVIOUS 335 COUPES (2007 AND 2011). THIS TIME I GOT THE PIRELLI P7S ON MY 2014 435. BOTH 335I'S HAD 17'S AND NOW I HAVE 18'S. THE P7'S RIDE A LITTLE HARDER THAN THE CONTIS, BUT THAT COULD BE THE SIZE DIFFERENCE.I FOUND THE CONTIS ONCE THEY HAD ABOUT 20K MILES WERE NOT THAT GREAT IN THE RAIN. COULD SPIN THE REAR TIRES PULLING AWAY FROM A STOP SIGN(THE 335'S BOTH DID NOT HAVE XDRIVE. ) THE P7'S ARE RATED FOR LONGER LIFE THAN THE CONTIS (500 VS 400) SO THEY MAY BE A LITTLE HARDER RUBBER COMPOUND.
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