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Old 07-04-2013, 09:01 AM
AVB-AMG AVB-AMG is offline
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While Bimmerfest has a dedicated forum category for Car Care, focusing on products for cleaning, polishing and protecting different types of automobile exterior and interior finishes, I am starting this new thread on Car Care Products, responding to a question I was asked by another member in the M6 Coupe forum.

There are hundreds of different car care products and the same number of different opinions on what works best. I am as particular (read: obsessive compulsive…................) about which products work best, based on my experience and ultimately use on my cars, to accomplish different finish goals. After trying quite a few products over the years this is what I have settled on to date. I hope this helps some of you who are curious what to use and will be interested to hear what others are using as well.

For my Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG and my wife's BMW 335i xDrive Coupe:
Since 2007, I have been using the following Ultima products from Autopia Car Care for protecting the metallic paint finish of my Mercedes-Benz and BMW cars. The process and sequence I follow starts with washing our cars with the Chemical Guys Glossworkz, and then follow by preparing the paint, followed by applying the protective polymer. I have listed below each product in order of sequence, links to each product on their respective web site(s). Also, the noted ongoing/occasional cleaning system is great for removing tree sap, bug splats, etc. after having applied the polymer, as well as the listed Detail Spray that is formulated to be compatible with the protective polymer. The finish of this polymer is a very shiny high gloss that is sufficient for my tastes for daily driver cars, thus eliminating having to also apply a wax/polish and the time required to do that on a regular basis. If one wants to have a shine with more depth, it is suggested to use a high quality car polish on top or over the polymer, realizing it will only las 2-3 weeks with normal exposure to the environment. (I also suggest that you might want to read some of the customer reviews for each product):

Chemical Guys Glossworkz Hi-Foam Gloss Booster & pH Neutral Auto Wash
http://www.autogeek.net/chemical-guy...auto-wash.html

Ultima Paint Prep Plus Pre-wax Polish
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/ult-4012-120.html

Ultima Paint Guard Plus
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/ult-1004-100.html

Ultima Elastrofoam Paint Cleaning System
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/ult-3200-3322.html

Ultima Detail Spray Plus
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/ult-2022.html


For my 2014 BMW M6 Coupe:
My new BMW M6 with the Alpine White paint finish, is NOT a metallic paint. Therefore, I want to use a product that will work better for that type of finish, producing a glossy and protective coating over the painted surfaces, I have done some more research online and have decided to purchase some new products from the excellent online auto car care retailer AUTOGEEK.NET, specifically Wolfgang Concours-Series Car Care, listed below. I will apply them this weekend and see how they perform over the next 3-6 months:

I will continue using the Chemical Guys Glossworkz Auto Wash, described previously, since I am satisfied with its results, then will use a clay/lubricant to remove any surface contaminants, then apply a polish enhancer to further prepare the surface, followed by a new protective paint polymer sealant:

Wolfgang Elastic Poly Clay & Wolfgang Clay Lubricant
http://www.autogeek.net/woclco.html

Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer
http://www.autogeek.net/wg2000.html

Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0
http://www.autogeek.net/wg5500.html

I will then use the following as necessary:

Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz
http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-ins...il-spritz.html

For the carbon fiber roof I will use the following product which is one of the few that claim to work very well on carbon fiber:

Chemical Guys JetSeal 109 Super Acrylic Sealant Formula
http://www.autogeek.net/chemical-guys-jetseal-109.html


For my 1961 Mercedes-Benz 190SL
I enjoy top-down driving of this little roadster during fair weather weekends and taking it to selected car shows and enthusiast events, I use the following traditional carnuba wax products by P21S and Sonus, to produce a spectacular show shine polished finish over non-metallic paint finish:

P21S Gloss Enhancing Paintwork Cleanser
http://www.autogeek.net/p2paincleanl.html

P21S Concours Carnauba Wax

http://www.autogeek.net/p2concarwax.html

Sonus Carnauba Spritz
http://www.autogeek.net/sonus-carnauba-spritz.html


For all of our cars I use the following:

Wheels & Tires
For cleaning off the continuous dreaded accumulating brake pad dust on surfaces of all of the alloy wheels of our M-B and BMW's, I use the following:

SONAX Wheel Cleaner
http://www.autogeek.net/sonax-wheel-cleaner.html

Ultima Tire & Trim Guard Plus (for a satin finish on the tire sidewalls)
http://www.autogeek.net/ultima-tire-trim-guard.html


So essentially, I wash all of the cars with the Chemical Guys Glossworkz, using a Sheepskin wool wash mitt, a 5 gallon bucket with a grit guard inside on the bottom and then dry with the Dry Blade and final drying with two large waffle weave micofiber towels. My miscellaneous cleaning and polishing items include:

California Dry Blade
http://www.autogeek.net/orcadrybl.html

CCS Red Wax/Sealant Applicator
http://www.autogeek.net/red-ccs-applicators.html

Daytona Speed Master JR Wheel Brush
http://www.autogeek.net/daytona-mini-wheel-brush.html

Stoner Tarminator Tar, Grease & Sap Remover

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/stn-91154.html

Plexus Plastic Cleaner, Polish and Protectant
http://www.plexusplasticcleaner.com/frames.html
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2014 BMW M6 Coupe (Daily Driver)
2007 M-B ML63 AMG (Vacation & Winter Vehicle)
2013 BMW 335 xDrive Coupe (Wife's Daily Driver)
1961 M-B 190SL (Fair weather weekend treat)
2004 M-B E55 AMG (leased, returned)
2004 BMW X5 4.4i (leased, returned)
2001 BMW X5 4.4i (leased, returned)
2000 M-B E45 Sport (leased, returned)

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Old 07-04-2013, 10:37 AM
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Thanks for the feedback. You not only covered the products involved but also the
steps to take.
Thanks again.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:00 PM
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Great info

I copied, printed and started flashing my credit card all over ur list. Much thanks for you thoroughness. Me trinket you've both saved me time researching for product for my M6 and you've added hours of sweat pleasure doing the process. Jolly good show man!
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:36 AM
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Fool4Chocolate:

You are most welcome...!

That was my intention in the initial composition of this post.

There are so many car care products on the market these days I believe that you probably cannot go wrong with any of the higher quality product lines. So much of one's choice of what to use is trial and error, followed by your actual experience, followed by curiosity of eventually trying something new, then developing a personal preference and subsequent easy routine, fostered by ongoing brand loyalty.

My car care regiment is an expensive one with many steps with different products used on different cars with different colors and types of paint, to achieve different goals.
After years of trying all sorts of car care products, this approach with these products works the best for me.

Regarding my newest experiment with Wolfgang Concours-Series Car Care, I like their company strategy of using the most up-to-date technology using newly created polymers and chemical ingredients to develop their products and make them the best so far for each specific purpose. I will just have to wait and see over the coming months how well their sealant holds up on my Alpine White BMW M6 coupe...
So far, I am very impressed with how each of these products work and the resulting appearance and protection of all our cars.

Enjoy your day of car care applying your products on your M6 and I wish you the best of luck in achieving your desired results...
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2014 BMW M6 Coupe (Daily Driver)
2007 M-B ML63 AMG (Vacation & Winter Vehicle)
2013 BMW 335 xDrive Coupe (Wife's Daily Driver)
1961 M-B 190SL (Fair weather weekend treat)
2004 M-B E55 AMG (leased, returned)
2004 BMW X5 4.4i (leased, returned)
2001 BMW X5 4.4i (leased, returned)
2000 M-B E45 Sport (leased, returned)

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Old 08-12-2013, 01:40 PM
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I'm fond of the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 on my M6 with black sapphire metallic paint.

I used the Wolfgang Füzion Carnauba Polymer Estate Wax on my wife's jet black 550ix with good results. It had some environmental damage, including some swirls and scratches, from a few months on the dealer's lot. The wax performed pretty well.

Across the board, BMW paint is the best. It looks a foot deep on both cars.
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Old 06-06-2014, 12:23 PM
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What products do you recommend for the interior?
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Old 06-06-2014, 02:04 PM
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dober1:
As I had indicated in my original post for products for cleaning and detailing the exterior of one's car, almost all of the products that AutoGeek sells will do a good-to-excellent job. You can see the price range for all of these products on their web site.

For years, I have successfully used LEXOL products to clean the vinyl surfaces and clean, moisturize and protect leather covered surfaces in my cars. I may try the WOLFGANG products for leather, once I have used up all of my LEXOL products. Here are the links:

LEXOL PRODUCTS

LEXOL Vinylex Cleaner

http://www.autogeek.net/lexsprayvin.html

LEXOL Leather Cleaner

http://www.autogeek.net/lexsprayleat.html

LEXOL Leather Conditioner

http://www.autogeek.net/lexsprayleat1.html

LEXOL Kit (Best Value)

http://www.autogeek.net/lexolkit.html

WOLFGANG PRODUCTS

Wolfgang Leather Care Cleaner


http://www.autogeek.net/wg2500.html

Wolfgang Leather Care Conditioner


http://www.autogeek.net/wg2600.html

If you want to do "one stop shopping" you may want to consider this package deal:

Wolfgang Leather Care Cockpit Kit

http://www.autogeek.net/wg7000.html

I use the same product for the carbon fiber trim on the interior of the car that I use on the exterior carbon fiber roof of my BMW M6 coupe, (see original post).

I hope this helps....

AVB-AMG
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2007 M-B ML63 AMG (Vacation & Winter Vehicle)
2013 BMW 335 xDrive Coupe (Wife's Daily Driver)
1961 M-B 190SL (Fair weather weekend treat)
2004 M-B E55 AMG (leased, returned)
2004 BMW X5 4.4i (leased, returned)
2001 BMW X5 4.4i (leased, returned)
2000 M-B E45 Sport (leased, returned)
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Old 06-06-2014, 02:22 PM
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Thanks for the detailed feedback. I appreciate it.
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Recent hand wash with a fresh coat Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant.
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