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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 05-29-2014, 02:23 PM
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Front rides way too tall now!

So, unfortunately I couldn't do the suspension the way I want to due to finances at the moment but I did order the Sachs sport struts for the front since I have the sport package. Here is the issue, my front end is riding really high now! WTF? Had it checks, seems to be tighter then a nun on Sunday (no offence intended). This is my 5th BMW and this car has caused me more issues than all the other ones combined! Help! There is a long story behind this car and I am going to get this thing to where I want it but I am getting sick of fixing and not upgrading.
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:36 PM
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Are the springs properly seated in their perch? That could caused them to ride high.
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:44 PM
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Honestly, I didn't even think to ask. I had a shop do it that I have had a long relationship with so I will have them check.
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:58 PM
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Hi,

Did you order the right parts?

Sounds as though you've ordered perhaps the V8 springs and as your car is lighter, it'll 'sit' higher up.

You need to investigate to confirm the right parts and if they were fitted correctly. Find that out and go from there.

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Old 05-29-2014, 03:07 PM
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Thanks Dennis. I did in-fact order the correct struts. I left the OE Sport Springs. I triple checked with my supplier and verified the model numbers. Could happen, I was on that one though.

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Old 05-29-2014, 04:30 PM
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Did you replace the strut mounts?
If you bought Sachs (as I did) the car rides higher.
Supposedly only the BMW strut mounts are the exact part.
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:57 PM
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had the same issue in my touring when I replaced my blown front struts. new Bilsteins riding higher than the OEM ones with new strut mounts. sucks.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:38 PM
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my Hd Bilsteines.. never rod any higher then the blown struts that it replaced on FOUR cars that ive done 4 sets on now...
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Old 05-30-2014, 03:59 AM
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so if the springs arent seated properly after new struts are installed, how would you know? the ride is smooth and quiet, doesnt sound or feel like anything is "off"
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Visual Inspection. See this thread from Cnn: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=399580
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Check that the struts are fully inserted into the wheel carrier. They should bottom out as indicated in the picture.
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:48 AM
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thanks for all the info guys. I've never had any weird issues on any of my other BMW's so this one struck a bad cord with me. Car rides smooth and quiet with the only little wobble coming from my right front tire that wore a tad uneven due to the struts being shot for a bit. I have so much to do on this car that this stupid little thing really got me going. Anyway, next up is putting my new ABS/ DSC controller in this weekend. After I double check the struts of course.

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Old 06-02-2014, 01:22 PM
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ABS/ DSC controller installed, programming it tonight. Ride height issue not yet resolved as I have not had the opportunity. The comment regarding the strut mounts did give me pause though. If that end up being the cause I will replace but be annoyed as hell! Thanks again all.
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:29 PM
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Did you replace the strut mounts?
If you bought Sachs (as I did) the car rides higher.
Supposedly only the BMW strut mounts are the exact part.
Could you expand on the "supposedly" remark? I just put new Lemforder strut mounts in our E46, (same part number as E39), with Sachs struts, and it's about an inch too high. I have done this job dozens of times on both models, so I know how to seat the strut all the way.
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Old 06-02-2014, 02:47 PM
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I bought the Lemforder mounts also. I have asked several very knowledgeable and experienced BMW Indy's, techs and tuners and they are as surprised as I was. I did this a month ago, it has settled a lot but is still about an inch too tall. I will check out the installation when I get a chance as the shop I had do it is not specifically a BMW shop, just a reputable suspension shop.
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Old 06-04-2014, 10:28 AM
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taking the car to the suspension shop who installed my new struts and hardware today. Let's see if they get pissed at the amount of info you guys have given me or if they will be honest and say, oops, we should have known. Fingers crossed to getting it fixed right because I can't stand looking at it right now!
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good luck.
hopefully they will fix the orientation issue.
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:38 PM
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ok, so Im having a hard time explaining the left/ right orientation. I got the coil perch set-up explained but there was something else regarding the l/r orientation on the struts that I can't seem to remember or explain correctly. Help, at shop now.
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Old 06-04-2014, 01:31 PM
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For factory strut/spring installs, here's the Bible.

http://www.beisansystems.com/procedu..._procedure.htm

You'll find details on every detail.
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ok, so Im having a hard time explaining the left/ right orientation. I got the coil perch set-up explained but there was something else regarding the l/r orientation on the struts that I can't seem to remember or explain correctly. Help, at shop now.
If the shop can't right away grasp what is meant by left/right orientation of BMW struts, no wonder they didn't do the job right first time.. Don't leave till everything is done per book. Lots of online DIY guides on this- my favourite is CN90's.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=399580


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19. Re-install Strut, taking care not to damage paint work!
- Place a jack below Steering Knuckle and slowly raise it up.
- Twist the new Strut a bit to allow it to sit properly.
- Make sure the Strut bottoms down properly on the Steering Knuckle!
- Also check the R vs L marking lines up correctly as shown.
- Jack up the steering knuckle a bit more, verify that everything is correctly lined up.
- Now torque the Pinch Bolt to 81 Nm.
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:24 AM
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Ok, so my brain hurts. Front suspension was double checked, compared to several guides from here and the AllData instructions. Nothing was done incorrectly but still sits up about an inch too tall. I couldn't have them take it apart yesterday since I was on the road for work but a lengthy visual inspection up in the air and wheels off looks good. This is killing me! Thanks for all the help guys!
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Old 07-16-2014, 12:19 PM
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Issue still isn't resolved. Ordering new rear shocks and mounts in the next couple of days so it will force the issue with the shop. We'll see how it sits because I still think its wrong. I haven't personally checked the suspension closely because its been way too hot in my garage. Fortunately the list of things to fix has not grown lately.
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Old 07-16-2014, 07:58 PM
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new rears won't help.
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Old 07-17-2014, 12:27 PM
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Scott, I have 146,000 miles on the car and no records of what the last owner did so rear shocks and mounts are on the list anyway. Point is, I can get the shop to do a tear down instead of just eyeballing it. They are good peeps but it seems like they dont want to hear that they may have done something wrong on the front.
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