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F80/F82/F83 M3 and M4 (2015 - Current)
F80 BMW M3 sedan, F82 BMW M4 coupe and F83 M4 convertible forum. This 5th generation M3 and all new M4 features a 3.0 liter twin turbo engine (engine code S55) 425hp and 406lbs of torque! Heavy use of light weight materials makes this generation lighter and faster then the outgoing E9x M3.

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Old 08-17-2014, 05:44 AM
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Yeah the F10 crowd is great here. F8x taking a lil time to pick up steam.

Interesting about manual getting better highway mpg. You'd think the 7 speed would get it due to the extra gear.
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Old 08-17-2014, 06:17 AM
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Old 08-17-2014, 07:53 AM
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Yeah the F10 crowd is great here. F8x taking a lil time to pick up steam.

Interesting about manual getting better highway mpg. You'd think the 7 speed would get it due to the extra gear.

My F82 is getting great gas mileage. I'm tracking this first tank very closely.


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Old 08-20-2014, 08:07 AM
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I've only owned manual transmission cars and evidenced by the fact that my yard is not full of them, I've been successful in selling them. What you will find in selling a car with a manual transmission is that, as most of have surmised, the number of people that would buy one is small. What you may not realize is that a person that wants a manual transmission car usually has a hard time finding one and will pay a premium once they locate one.

I've always set my price higher than comparable auto trans cars and, while it might take longer to sell it, I've always gotten my price. You are only looking for one buyer for your car, not 50.

My wife who has a masters in Economics taught me this lesson.
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Old 08-20-2014, 09:21 AM
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I've only owned manual transmission cars and evidenced by the fact that my yard is not full of them, I've been successful in selling them. What you will find in selling a car with a manual transmission is that, as most of have surmised, the number of people that would buy one is small. What you may not realize is that a person that wants a manual transmission car usually has a hard time finding one and will pay a premium once they locate one.

I've always set my price higher than comparable auto trans cars and, while it might take longer to sell it, I've always gotten my price. You are only looking for one buyer for your car, not 50.

My wife who has a masters in Economics taught me this lesson.

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Old 08-20-2014, 09:45 AM
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I've only owned manual transmission cars and evidenced by the fact that my yard is not full of them, I've been successful in selling them. What you will find in selling a car with a manual transmission is that, as most of have surmised, the number of people that would buy one is small. What you may not realize is that a person that wants a manual transmission car usually has a hard time finding one and will pay a premium once they locate one.

I've always set my price higher than comparable auto trans cars and, while it might take longer to sell it, I've always gotten my price. You are only looking for one buyer for your car, not 50.

My wife who has a masters in Economics taught me this lesson.
It would be interesting to know what cars you have had. Were the "autos" available in those models modern DCTs or "slushboxes"? There is an important difference. Traditional autos up until very recently were not up to the performance potential of manuals. It would make sense that cars like that would have a stronger enthusiast market for manual cars.
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Old 08-20-2014, 09:49 AM
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I've only owned manual transmission cars and evidenced by the fact that my yard is not full of them, I've been successful in selling them. What you will find in selling a car with a manual transmission is that, as most of have surmised, the number of people that would buy one is small. What you may not realize is that a person that wants a manual transmission car usually has a hard time finding one and will pay a premium once they locate one.

I've always set my price higher than comparable auto trans cars and, while it might take longer to sell it, I've always gotten my price. You are only looking for one buyer for your car, not 50.

My wife who has a masters in Economics taught me this lesson.
Agree with this. The older a car gets, the more the manual premium typically becomes. While not many people of the general population can drive a manual, I've found that most car enthusiasts can (or desperately want to be able to but haven't been able to due to the scarcity of manual cars).
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Old 08-20-2014, 10:20 AM
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It would be interesting to know what cars you have had. Were the "autos" available in those models modern DCTs or "slushboxes"? There is an important difference. Traditional autos up until very recently were not up to the performance potential of manuals. It would make sense that cars like that would have a stronger enthusiast market for manual cars.
All of my cars have been manuals (..many with DCT/SMG alternatives), and the manuals sold fast. Manuals are rare enough that they tend to catch the attention of workers/customers at dealerships as well.
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Old 08-23-2014, 01:18 PM
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I choose the DCT for my first EVER manual tranny. After driving it. It was just tooooooo good!
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I can't find the link to the article I read about this subject, but the E90 M3 (sedan) had a very limited number of MTs produced as compared to DCTs. As a result, the E90 M3 sedan with MT is hard to find and commands a premium resale price as compared to the DCT counterparts.

There were many more MTs ordered on E92 M3 coupes as compared to the sedans.
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I can't find the link to the article I read about this subject, but the E90 M3 (sedan) had a very limited number of MTs produced as compared to DCTs. As a result, the E90 M3 sedan with MT is hard to find and commands a premium resale price as compared to the DCT counterparts.

There were many more MTs ordered on E92 M3 coupes as compared to the sedans.
How do E92 Coupes with MT compare in resale to DCT?
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How do E92 Coupes with MT compare in resale to DCT?
I remember reading the article in one of my monthly car magazines but I think I threw it out after I was finished, unfortunately. It was an article discussing recent resale value trends and the E Series M3s were featured. I only remember that the M3 sedans with MT were mentioned, in particular, because they are returning the highest resale values (as there are not that many of them by comparison). They could only find one or two listed for sale at the time in the US. The convertibles (both the MT or DCT) had the lower resale values of the three.
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