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Old 08-22-2014, 05:44 PM
swampX3 swampX3 is offline
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valet key generic pics

on a budget ....these cost ~ 60 bucks around here whereas the full key is 250 ish

http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j...08841019080202

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...tart=0&ndsp=15

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Old 08-22-2014, 06:04 PM
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a good ews etc link

note the rigged up solenoid fix to get a full 12v plus at the solenoid....any regular GM or other relay will do .....but to get you home you may have to go the get under the vehicle with a 12v jumper wire route.....maybe gotta do what we did in Alaska ....never ever turn off the engine day or night


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Old 08-22-2014, 06:17 PM
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some good x3 starter images/troubleshooting

gotta have a good 12v to get the solenoid energized ....I think this is a later model than yours but it has some good bed time reading generic X info


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Old 08-22-2014, 07:11 PM
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wiring link

http://www.bmw-planet.com/diagrams/r.../e83/index.htm
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Old 08-23-2014, 07:12 AM
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solenoid behind air filter

the solenoid behind the air filter is probably the heater valve solenoid and can get hot.....should not have any link to starter though unless some wiring is crossed up

should look like this generic one

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...art=16&ndsp=20

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Old 08-23-2014, 07:45 AM
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Ok, so I've ran the diagnostics from the video. I believe I am looking at the right relay for the starter, but it is not showing any voltage. Click image for larger version

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I'm going to be hooking up a wire as suggested from swamp and running it to the starter solenoid. I checked the voltage at the solenoid from underneath and it was fluctuating a lot topping out at 12.6

And that solenoid is exactly the same one you described swamp, the heating one.




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Old 08-23-2014, 07:48 AM
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keep going !

just posted this one to another starting problem ....a little ews antenna insight


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Old 08-23-2014, 07:55 AM
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the kit swap approach



the best folks have swap kits !
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Old 08-27-2014, 07:19 AM
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Ok sorry I haven't been able to update, it's been crazy here and I'm finally at a motel half way home.

So after all the tests and checking the starter under load it was my thought it was between the starter and key. I didn't have time to order a new key. So I started checking the ignition switch wiring and found a loss of voltage at one of the terminals when if start position. So I cleaned the ignition switch, used an eraser on the contacts as I didn't have much else. Reinstalled and started right up.
I'm half way home and have ordered a new ignition switch, which I put in when I get there.

So after everything the final problem was the ignition switch.

Which can also be temporary fixed with a hard turning of the key and I read in old bmw models with same ignition that if you hold the key in start for 90secs. Either of these I don't recommend, just fixes to get you going. If you have time, take apart your steering column shield, clean all the fuzz out (mine was very dusty and fuzzy), take out ignition switch, clean it all out (there's great rebuild videos on YouTube). This process doesn't take too long and could save you lots of money and time in the long run.

Thanks swamp and all for your help.


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Old 08-27-2014, 08:12 AM
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relieved !

the whole forum is very relieved you got er goin and are probably home by now with your wife who is pregnant.....nothing worse than getting stuck in those circumstances

well done on the final resolution with the ignition switch

please post the best youtube you have found on ignition switch cleanup so others may learn
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