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F22 / F23 2 Series (2014 - Current)
The 2 Series coupe is the replacement for the E82/E88 1 series coupe. Production starts in November 2013 on the 228i (N20) and M235i (N55) coupes. Look for them in dealerships in February 2014. The convertible F23 2 series will follow in the fall of 2014.

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Old 12-21-2016, 05:43 AM
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Missing Ambient Lighting

It appears there is a build difference between various 2 series cars wherein some have a small light above the cup holder/ashtray area and some don't. My 2016 M235Xi convertible does not have it. I have included a picture of the opening in the panel just below the HVAC control. Could other members take a look and report back stating the model and year and options such as Premium, executive, 563 lighting pkg. etc. I am trying to determine if this issue is year or model specific or is someone on the assembly just forgot to install them.
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Old 12-22-2016, 12:00 PM
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Console Ambient Lighting

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Old 01-14-2017, 05:27 AM
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My 2017 M240i coupe (all interior options) does not have a light in that hole.
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Old 01-14-2017, 05:46 AM
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Missong Console Lighting

Thanks for the reply. Does your car have the smokers package? I seems most of the owners who have the light also have the smokers Pkg which is strange. Don't see the connection of why smokers would require a light and others not. It's good to see that problem has been carried over to the new models so its not something specific to the 228's and 235's.
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Old 01-14-2017, 07:06 AM
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Thanks for the reply. Does your car have the smokers package? I seems most of the owners who have the light also have the smokers Pkg which is strange. Don't see the connection of why smokers would require a light and others not. It's good to see that problem has been carried over to the new models so its not something specific to the 228's and 235's.
I was the OP who first raised this "ambient light" issue over the other forum that many of us monitor and I have the "Smokers Pkg" and I do not have the light. Some folks were going to inquire at their dealership for a response. Has anyone done this?
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Old 01-15-2017, 06:34 AM
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I haven't as my car in in storage for the winter and the first thing they will say is bring your car in so we can look at it. I made a table of the replies from people and everyone except you who has the light has the smokers package. I was beginning to suspect that it was somehow related but as you have the package but not the light that blows that theory out of the water. I sent a mail to my BMW Genius to query him as to why some of us have it and some not. If they do not want to do anything about it, I think I will order the light and install it myself. The only tricky part will be find out where it pugs in. I'll advise both forums if our "Genius" gets back to me with something.
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Old 01-16-2017, 08:25 AM
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I do have the smoker's package, although I do not know how or why. I did not ask for it. I found it bizarre that in 2017 a new car came with an ashtray and lighter w/o specifically asking for it. I would have preferred a storage compartment.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:52 AM
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Thanks, what model of car do you have? Also do you have the premium or executive packages?
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:46 AM
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I do have the smoker's package, although I do not know how or why. I did not ask for it. I found it bizarre that in 2017 a new car came with an ashtray and lighter w/o specifically asking for it. I would have preferred a storage compartment.
They put it back in after listening to several years of screaming from the people who wanted it when it suddenly disappeared in March 2009.

However, the ashtray does just pull out. Then, add one of these for $9 to cover the holes: https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1...uine-bmw-part/
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:52 AM
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They put it back in after listening to several years of screaming from the people who wanted it when it suddenly disappeared in March 2009.

However, the ashtray does just pull out. Then, add one of these for $9 to cover the holes: https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1...uine-bmw-part/

It was the first thing I ordered for my new m235i. Shipping was more than the part but no one had it any cheaper once part, shipping and handling were all added up. Now I just wish there was an equally smart fix for my wife's new Audi Q5. That ashtray is completely useless, unless you're smoker.
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I have the cut out, but do not know if it's illuminated. I've driven the car after dark and nothing shines. Is there a setting to activate it?
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Old 01-21-2017, 06:07 AM
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I have the cut out, but do not know if it's illuminated. I've driven the car after dark and nothing shines. Is there a setting to activate it?

It should come on with your dash lights. Chances are it isn't installed. I have not heard back from the "genius" at my dealership. I will probably have to go in and see them personally. What options do you have on your car?
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Wonder if it only comes on when you click on the overheads? (just thought of that while I was typing this)
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Old 01-21-2017, 07:21 AM
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I was the OP who first raised this "ambient light" issue over the other forum that many of us monitor and I have the "Smokers Pkg" and I do not have the light. Some folks were going to inquire at their dealership for a response. Has anyone done this?
Thanks to P912guy for raising this issue. I attempted to identify and relate options to those who have and don't have the light but there is no direct relationship to any specific option package. I think the guy at the plant has been taking too many smoke breaks and missing some cars. Hopefully my dealership can identify what the issue is. I'm not sure if they will do anything but I will probably just buy the light assembly and any mounting clip required and install it myself. Hopefully the power source will be close by. Here are the results I was able to gather from peoples replies. Out of the 16 people who commented on this and other sites, only 4 have the light. It looked at first it was connected to the smokre3s package but then one respondent with the SP doesn't have it . Anyway thanks to all and to P912 guy for starting this up.
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Old 01-21-2017, 07:39 AM
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They put it back in after listening to several years of screaming from the people who wanted it when it suddenly disappeared in March 2009.

However, the ashtray does just pull out. Then, add one of these for $9 to cover the holes: https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1...uine-bmw-part/
Thanks for the tip Zooks.

@ OP, maybe they stopped putting a light in that hole because they could save money and they thought the overhead lights were enough.
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Old 01-21-2017, 07:55 AM
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... Then, add one of these for $9 to cover the holes: https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1...uine-bmw-part/
Have the same problem of the smokers package in mine as well, however instead of paying the outrageous P&H for the mat I went by my dealer and asked how much? They said about $9. Well long story short, the MSRP was $19.32 they netted it to me for $7.83 than added tax for a total of $8.40 Just have to wait until Monday to get it. Sure beats the heck out of extortion level interweb P&H fees!

Will be interesting to see what is dug up about the ambient lights, although I'm beginning its a thing just to take additional $ for essentially nothing. Supposedly had it in my F10 but while there was adjustment for it, never saw any kind of effect. Totally useless!
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I have a 2016 228 and also missing the light :-( I have all the packages/options.
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Thanks to P912guy for raising this issue. I attempted to identify and relate options to those who have and don't have the light but there is no direct relationship to any specific option package. I think the guy at the plant has been taking too many smoke breaks and missing some cars. Hopefully my dealership can identify what the issue is. I'm not sure if they will do anything but I will probably just buy the light assembly and any mounting clip required and install it myself. Hopefully the power source will be close by. Here are the results I was able to gather from peoples replies. Out of the 16 people who commented on this and other sites, only 4 have the light. It looked at first it was connected to the smokre3s package but then one respondent with the SP doesn't have it . Anyway thanks to all and to P912 guy for starting this up.
I see that you have the good fortune to be in Canada. Did you sort the repossess for different markets? It seems to me that there are a great many differences in standard equipment between the US and Canada. (I think my car has the light -- one of the few bulbs that are actually supplied as "ambient lighting" in the 2.)
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Old 02-08-2017, 10:56 AM
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Almost all of the replies came from the US with the exception of mine. Some Mil members are overseas but I have assumed they are driving export models that they will bring home as I did after my tour. What year and model is yours, an what option packages do you have. There are some differences between the Canadian and US models but not really too much. Looking through the brochures, I couldn't see too much. Speedometer of course, mine in KM versus MPH. I don't think we have the sport line but other than that most options are available in both countries.
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I have a 2016 228i RWD MT. It has MSport, Track, Premium, Tech, Driver and Driver 2 packages plus enhanced BT. Ambient lighting is in there somewhere -- in the Premium package I think. May 2016 build.

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I have a 2016 228i RWD MT. It has MSport, Track, Premium, Tech, Driver and Driver 2 packages plus enhanced BT. Ambient lighting is in there somewhere -- in the Premium package I think. May 2016 build.
To go back to your earlier comment about CDN and US models, I pulled up both sites and went to build your car. I was surprised to see some of the differences. You can choose 4 more colours we can't get, a difference inn the black leather, yours has a red strip and ours a blue stripe in it. The package and option breakdown is where the big differences are. The US site has them much more broken out whereas ours offers 5 large packages that include almost everything. Everything is there but more like the Toyotas mentality that says "we'll decide what you want" and eliminated individual choices the way it used to be when I was you and buying cars.
Thank for the replies
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:43 AM
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Hi everyone. I finally got my M235 back on the road after 4 1/2 months of snow and salt and stopped in to the dealership here in Ottawa to ask about the missing cup holder lighting. I was referred to the shop supervisor who was very curious and ended up taking my dash apart to determine of the light was installed and just pushed in or absent. Well it turns out that there was nothing there at all. He wasn't sure why as he had seen it on other models so went off to investigate. I got a call this morning and apparently BMW in their infinite wisdom stopped installing the light on anything produced after July 2015. Additionally, he says the wiring won't be there as BMW wires them as per the options not pre-wired for all options as in the past. I guess if we want a light we'll have to retrofit it which shouldn't be too hard.
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:27 AM
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Thanks for checking into this. So, your 2er doesn't have the wiring either? Let us know what and how any retrofit works out for you. My M235i was an August 2015 build so I'd assume also no wiring for me. Without the wiring, I wonder how retrofit would work.
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No, mine was made in late 15 also so nothing in there. To retrofit will just be a matter of finding a small LED that isn't too bright and affixing it in the opening. There is a small bracket there so a little crazy glue to stick it in place. The hardest will be finding a wire connected to the dash light dimmer and splicing into it so the light varies with the dash lights. Just had a thought as I was typing this, the 4-way flasher switch is in the middle of the vents and may be connected to the light dimmer. If so that could be an easily accessible source. I'll have to check to see if it dims.
Alternatively I guess you could connect to the power from the power outlet (old cigarette lighter) and have it on full brightness all the time. It would depend on the brightness of the light you can find. You don't want a giant floodlight just something subtle.
Getting access is always the worst. The garage started at the vents popped them out, then worked his way down, radio panel, HVAC and then the light panel. A word of caution, the vents have metal spring clips that can fall off so be careful not to loose them.
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Does the 235/240 have the illuminated radio trim? The LCI 3 series replaced the cup holder light with the illuminated radio trim. If you guys have that trim too you can just get the missing LED module and make a parallel power adapter to get power that would go to the radio trim. That's what I did.

The missing LED part number is 63319242162.
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