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F80/F82/F83 M3 and M4 (2015 - Current)
F80 BMW M3 sedan, F82 BMW M4 coupe and F83 M4 convertible forum. This 5th generation M3 and all new M4 features a 3.0 liter twin turbo engine (engine code S55) 425hp and 406lbs of torque! Heavy use of light weight materials makes this generation lighter and faster then the outgoing E9x M3.

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Old 01-03-2017, 06:11 PM
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Want to order a BASE M3

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I would like to order a base M3, 6MT, no options or packages... Am I too crazy to do it ? Dealers never have Base cars in their inventory and with options and packages the price is always around 10K over a base car.

Planing to keep this car for at least 5 years.

Also what's the timeline for ordering, production and delivery of the car ?

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Old 01-03-2017, 06:53 PM
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Hi members,

I would like to order a base M3, 6MT, no options or packages... Am I too crazy to do it ? Dealers never have Base cars in their inventory and with options and packages the price is always around 10K over a base car.

Planing to keep this car for at least 5 years.

Also what's the timeline for ordering, production and delivery of the car ?

All comments and help will be greatly appreciated.

If you can get an allocation, order what you want. Btw, why do you want a base with no options or packages?

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Old 01-03-2017, 08:08 PM
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Hi members,

I would like to order a base M3, 6MT, no options or packages... Am I too crazy to do it ? Dealers never have Base cars in their inventory and with options and packages the price is always around 10K over a base car.

Planing to keep this car for at least 5 years.

Also what's the timeline for ordering, production and delivery of the car ?

All comments and help will be greatly appreciated.

You are going to have to put a fairly sizable deposit on such an order, because a dealer would not be able to sell that car if you pulled out. I have no idea why anyone would want to order a NEW bmw with no options. There are so many other options for you...

Why a BMW? You want the performance? Why not get a slightly older one for your same budget if you "have" to have a M3?

Part of BMWs "thing" is "sporty luxury". If you just want "sport" I am sure you can find plenty of cars in the used market that fit that (or get a new camaro SS or something with good performance but not quite the same fit and finish, which you wouldnt have anyway if you order a car with no options).

I think its a big waste of money to get a BMW with Zero options. I get not loading up with options (I really do) but if you want a track car (which is basically what that would be), why not get something used that you can modify to be true track car and not new?
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Old 01-03-2017, 08:10 PM
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After the used 1980 320i I bought in 1984, I've never bought a BMW that was in stock anywhere and have had to order to get what I wanted.

There's no reason whatsoever that you can't order a car with no options or packages beyond what BMW NA has as its defaults, which is fairly loaded to start with.

My M4 Cabrio took about 6 weeks from order to delivery.
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Old 01-03-2017, 08:21 PM
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You are going to have to put a fairly sizable deposit on such an order, because a dealer would not be able to sell that car if you pulled out. I have no idea why anyone would want to order a NEW bmw with no options. There are so many other options for you...
When I ordered my current car, there were very few packages or options from which to choose. A "base" M3 or M4 is a very feature-rich car.

My wife has always insisted on manual transmissions, so her 535i, X3's, etc. were all ordered with very reasonable deposits. A few salespeople tried hard to talk her out of it and claimed it would have poor resale value. I have not found that to be true.

That said, if I know I want the car and have worked out a deal acceptable to me, I'm not too worried about the size of the deposit.
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Old 01-03-2017, 09:03 PM
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I ordered every option except carbon ceramic brakes on my M4 and have no regrets.

That being said a "Base" M3 is hardly a "stripper" and is a very well equipped car. If that is what the OP desires them I would encourage the OP to order one.

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I actually like the cloth and leather seats that come standard. You better hurry, though.

This is an interesting concept... sort of a 21st century, German version of a Plymouth Road Runner.
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Personally I think the new M3/M4 is a fairly loaded car. I have ordered mine base with only 19" black wheels and have no regret. I enjoy every second of driving this car without having the 20-30K extra options. Regarding fit and finish it's the same for all BMW it doesn't matter if you have backup camera or heads up display or DTC they all have same dash, same controls and everything, except if you go with extended leather then you will have a leather wrapped dash but still same dials, vents and everything and believe me you can't compare that to a Camaro SS, or a Mustang or anything. If you compare the car with MB or Audi, I believe MB is 10-15K more expensive and there is now new RS4 out yet. So go ahead order the car it will take you 6-8 weeks if the dealer has production number and then you will have you car here. Regarding sizable deposit I have ordered mine from Pacific BMW and didn't put any deposit down, let me know if you want and I can introduce you to my CA. Good Luck.
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I ordered every option except carbon ceramic brakes on my M4 and have no regrets.

That being said a "Base" M3 is hardly a "stripper" and is a very well equipped car. If that is what the OP desires them I would encourage the OP to order one.

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I agree, mostly. I think OP needs to consider springing for the leather and 19 inch wheels at a minimum.
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Old 01-04-2017, 07:46 PM
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I agree, mostly. I think OP needs to consider springing for the leather and 19 inch wheels at a minimum.
Why on earth would anyone care if someone else prefers leather seats or not? My last 2 Z4's had Alcantara seats that were simply wonderful. They were also significantly more expensive than plain old leather, so it's not always a matter of "springing for" leather.

As far as wheels go, I got the standard 18" on my M4. Roads are here are terrible and 19's just don't have enough sidewall to handle frost heaves and potholes without wheel damage. I've had the 19's on my Z4's straightened most years. Handling is also better with the 18's on roads such as we have around here.
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Old 01-04-2017, 08:17 PM
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When I ordered my current car, there were very few packages or options from which to choose. A "base" M3 or M4 is a very feature-rich car.

My wife has always insisted on manual transmissions, so her 535i, X3's, etc. were all ordered with very reasonable deposits. A few salespeople tried hard to talk her out of it and claimed it would have poor resale value. I have not found that to be true.

That said, if I know I want the car and have worked out a deal acceptable to me, I'm not too worried about the size of the deposit.
I agree...have never had any problem selling any of the 6MT BMWs I've ever had at good prices...supply and demand...hardly any used MTs out there and enthusiasts will buy...
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The only reason I'd discourage against a 'stripped model' is remorse later on.

Too many times, we all have seen posts about retrofitting something that should have been ordered in the first place.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:34 AM
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Thank you all for the comments !!

Main reason for ordering a base M3 would be price... Dealers have cars with lots of options that I really don't need and manual trans is a must. Planning to use it as a daily driver with few days of track.

Yes, I could get a fairly used car with CPO warranty but I always think that M3s are kind of "abused " ?
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Old 01-05-2017, 11:11 AM
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If you were leasing........prob not a big deal but since buying you will eat some cash on the back end due to lack of demand for cars without things like PDC (ask me how I know)

However, these cars do come very well loaded (NAV, etc) now, so even then not as "stripped" at some E90's were.

You could do base w/cloth seats and only add the Exec Package for $3900 (yes horribly overpriced) and worry about upgrading the wheels later if so desired. People are definitely going to want the LED lights so keep that in mind as well.


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I see nothing wrong with getting a base model if: a. Price is a concern b. You simply don't need any of the options

I would always pick a bare bones higher model vs fully loaded lower model (eg M3 and 340, M5 and 500), etc.
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I see nothing wrong with getting a base model if: a. Price is a concern b. You simply don't need any of the options

I would always pick a bare bones higher model vs fully loaded lower model (eg M3 and 340, M5 and 500), etc.
I tell ya the heated steering wheel is the bomb tho!
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Thank you all for the comments !!

Main reason for ordering a base M3 would be price... Dealers have cars with lots of options that I really don't need and manual trans is a must. Planning to use it as a daily driver with few days of track.

Yes, I could get a fairly used car with CPO warranty but I always think that M3s are kind of "abused " ?
These cars are meant to be abused. They should be run and then refilled and repeat.
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Thank you all for the comments !!



Main reason for ordering a base M3 would be price... Dealers have cars with lots of options that I really don't need and manual trans is a must. Planning to use it as a daily driver with few days of track.



Yes, I could get a fairly used car with CPO warranty but I always think that M3s are kind of "abused " ?

Hence my suggestion. Leather and 19's will run you approximately 2k extra over a base car and improve the car tremendously. They are the best two options available value wise.
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You are not crazy. My plan was to get a bare bone M3 and strip the heck of any M or B&W out of it. Even looking for alternative grill. Try top that
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Order what you want. And I wouldn't put down more than a refundable (in writing) deposit on any car; I'd find another dealer. As mentioned, the only thing to watch out for is regret later on. I made that mistake with my first BMW, a 1999 528 - never again. I don't go all out since then, but I consider each option and get what I want. For me, on the F80 this meant the competition package, executive package, rear shades, cameras, semi-individual leather, and MT (an option with a cost savings, how about that!).
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i just placed an order yesterday for a m3 with the 19s, leather, and exec package only. 6spd manual of course! dont care for LEDs (xenons look great) and the exec package is a must IMO for the rear view camera and HUD (M HUD is awesome). so IMO get at least the exec package. you will have a tough time selling a car in 5 years time with no back up camera, especially when all new cars are required to have them by next year. good luck finding a allocation though
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I think the reason for going base is the buyer wants to be able to sell it 5 years later. As all the other cars with options they all depreciate around the same amount at the end (a couple hundred dollars in difference and the amount is based upon miles not really options or maintenance anymore) even if the options were thousands of dollars higher. I think the buyer doesn't care about all the technologies. Just wants a new M3 fresh from the factory.
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I think the reason for going base is the buyer wants to be able to sell it 5 years later. As all the other cars with options they all depreciate around the same amount at the end (a couple hundred dollars in difference and the amount is based upon miles not really options or maintenance anymore) even if the options were thousands of dollars higher. I think the buyer doesn't care about all the technologies. Just wants a new M3 fresh from the factory.
I agree with this, but don't you think the buyer may have trouble selling it down the line "bare bones" to other potential buyers. Used car buyers tend to scrutinize each car and compare all different trims in the existing model to try and get the best possible car for their money. The bare bones model may end up getting passed over often if it is priced the same as the higher optioned cars. Just my .02.
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