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F22 / F23 2 Series (2014 - Current)
The 2 Series coupe is the replacement for the E82/E88 1 series coupe. Production starts in November 2013 on the 228i (N20) and M235i (N55) coupes. Look for them in dealerships in February 2014. The convertible F23 2 series will follow in the fall of 2014.

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Old 02-06-2017, 10:49 PM
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228i Road Noise Level

When I first bought the car I thought it was quiet. But after a few week of driving I now think the road noise is actually quite loud. I thought my previous G37 coupe was loud but 228i doesn't seem to be too quiet, either.

I'm running on Michelin PS tires. Are they kind of loud? What other tires can be a little quieter?
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If you are driving on Michelin Pilot Super Sport (PSS), then I know of no tire in extreme performance category that is quieter. You should try P Zeros I have ... speaking about tire noise.

This said, Michelin PSS will certainly be less pliable and much harder, thus noisier, in cold temps. Your location says simply "CA", but that is one LONG state. So, if it is being cold, wait until warm up before you do anything. If you find then noisy at 80 F, then you will have to switch for touring tire.

Titerack.com is enormous source of information about tires and they will chat with you real time when you search.

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Old 02-08-2017, 08:53 AM
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Mark, thanks for the suggestion. I'm running on Pilot Sprort, not PSS. It does get pretty chilly here in NorCal sometimes so temperature probably has something to do with it.

Has anyone tried Dynamat or similar sound deafening products? But they all seem like quite some work and I'm not sure I want to have everything ripped apart just to install it.
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Dynamat works extremely well, but mainly in the situation of sharpening the quality of your sound system. It will definitely help with road noise, but finding quiet tires can provide the same effect.
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When I first bought the car I thought it was quiet. But after a few week of driving I now think the road noise is actually quite loud. I thought my previous G37 coupe was loud but 228i doesn't seem to be too quiet, either.

I'm running on Michelin PS tires. Are they kind of loud? What other tires can be a little quieter?

Open your front doors and see if you have this black verticle piece, or if it's just bare sheetmetal, like the second picture. You can see the open space path for tire noise in the sheetmetal gap.

If not, both sides are about forty bucks at the BMW dealer. It helps with road noise. BMW added this to some models after the program launched.


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Old 02-08-2017, 12:27 PM
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Open your front doors and see if you have this black verticle piece, or if it's just bare sheetmetal, like the second picture. You can see the open space path for tire noise in the sheetmetal gap.

If not, both sides are about forty bucks at the BMW dealer. It helps with road noise. BMW added this to some models after the program launched.
That's interesting. Do you have the part number?
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That's interesting. Do you have the part number?
Driver side: 51-48-7-300-693 Price: $23.63
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Driver side: 51-48-7-300-693 Price: $23.63
Passenger side: 51-48-7-300-694 Price: $22.96
Hmmm...good and bad news. Good news is I do have them on my car. Bad news is now I don't know what to do. Am I just too sensitive to road noise? What other alternatives can I do?
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Hmmm...good and bad news. Good news is I do have them on my car. Bad news is now I don't know what to do. Am I just too sensitive to road noise? What other alternatives can I do?
Hard to know your sensitivity level from here, but you could consider downgrading the tire to a Grand Touring category, which is designed to emphasize quiet and comfort, but at the sacrifice of performance/handling (see tirerack.com for top performers and noise ratings). But, that sort of defeats the purpose of having a BMW. Buick? Lexus? (Asian Buick )
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Good tire review:

I ran General Altimax on my 2007 335i vert. Great tires !!!!!
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When I first bought the car I thought it was quiet. But after a few week of driving I now think the road noise is actually quite loud. I thought my previous G37 coupe was loud but 228i doesn't seem to be too quiet, either.

I'm running on Michelin PS tires. Are they kind of loud? What other tires can be a little quieter?
FWIW, I have a set of Conti Extreme DW's on my Mini and they are not that loud to my ears.

Check out Tire Rack and look at the comparisons between tries, specifically the Conti vs. other performance tires.

FWIW, road surface has a lot to do with the tire noise transmitted to the cabin. I've been on roads that look perfect but produce horrible in cabin noise, then transition to another surface and it's like someone switched the volume off.
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When I first bought the car I thought it was quiet. But after a few week of driving I now think the road noise is actually quite loud. I thought my previous G37 coupe was loud but 228i doesn't seem to be too quiet, either.

I'm running on Michelin PS tires. Are they kind of loud? What other tires can be a little quieter?
I think it depends on what you're used to. My previous roadster was an 01 Miata. The 228i convertible is really quiet compared to that. And that's with the top up or down (with the windows up).
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Driver side: 51-48-7-300-693 Price: $23.63
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Thanks. Are they difficult to install?
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Thanks. Are they difficult to install?
10 minutes for the first one as you learn how to do it. 2 minutes for the second. I think the only tool I used was a wooden ruler.

One other note. The fake engine noise contributed a lot to the drone that I noticed on the highway. Getting rid of it using a specialty harness at the amp in the trunk helped quite a bit. http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1202389
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Thanks. Are they difficult to install?
I did this fairly early on before there was much experience, so I asked the dealer to do it. Had the car back in under 5 minutes, no charge, so I suspect the installation is very simple....just carefully stuff it into position...no adhesives or connectors involved.
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I just checked my M235i vert and find I don't have the weather stripping described in the post. I will order it and get it installed as soon as I can get by the dealership for them to order it. My car is an August 2015 build. Do we know when BMW started installing the weather stripping? I would find it hard to believe that some cars have it and some don't in any random way.
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I don't think the 2 series is loud and I have the Pilot Super Sports.
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I don't think the 2 series is loud and I have the Pilot Super Sports.
I also have the PSS. I don't know about other states but highways here in CA are just bad.
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I did this fairly early on before there was much experience, so I asked the dealer to do it. Had the car back in under 5 minutes, no charge, so I suspect the installation is very simple....just carefully stuff it into position...no adhesives or connectors involved.
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"FWIW, road surface has a lot to do with the tire noise transmitted to the cabin. I've been on roads that look perfect but produce horrible in cabin noise, then transition to another surface and it's like someone switched the volume off."

Couldn't agree more....too bad no way to "instantaneously" test different tires on your cars over same section of road to evaluate noise levels....

Hmmmm....wonder if Tire Rack could add sound clips of each tire on their 3 series BMW test vehicle over same section of their test track and same section of their standard road test loop???
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