Should BMW start a recall for the: THE SQUEAKY WHEEL SYNDROME??? - Page 4 - Bimmerfest - BMW Forums



Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series & 4 Series > E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013)

E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013)
The E9X is the 4th evolution of the BMW 3 series including a highly tuned twin turbo 335i variant pushing out 300hp and 300 ft. lbs. of torque. BMW continues to show that it sets the bar for true driving performance! -- View the E9X Wiki

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #76  
Old 01-31-2009, 12:39 PM
B-Pecan's Avatar
B-Pecan B-Pecan is offline
*Da Butter Pecan Papi*
Location: Maryland/DC
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,261
Mein Auto: e92 335i
Just give it up... It will eventually stop doing it. Finally after 2 1/2 years, I just reached 30k and I don't think I hear it anymore. Maybe it just needs time.
It's all a joke that BMW is playing on their customers.
__________________

*Butter Pecan Papi*
e92 335i
e90 330i (Sold)
e46 323i
e34 530i (Sold)


BMW Car Club of America - National Capital Chapter
Reply With Quote
  #77  
Old 01-31-2009, 06:28 PM
thetryal thetryal is offline
Registered User
Location: ft worth, tx
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 10
Mein Auto: 07 335i
i took my car to the dealer for a different issue and mentioned it to them. i told them my symptoms. the description they had on the work order is "removed brake pads and cleaned. applied brake queit." its working so far. we'll see how long it lasts.
Reply With Quote
  #78  
Old 02-01-2009, 06:18 AM
jmsent jmsent is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Chicago
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 805
Mein Auto: 07 335i Coupe
Mine's going in on Tuesday for the squeaks that are clearly coming from the back whenever I take off. My left dash cupholder also busted off in the sub zero temps. Hope they don't blame me for that.
__________________
Sold-07 335i COUPE-SPACE GRAY-STEP-SPORT-PREMIUM-COLD-SIRIUS-RFT DELETE
Reply With Quote
  #79  
Old 02-02-2009, 04:56 PM
samiheik samiheik is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Boston
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 149
Mein Auto: BMW
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thehammocklife View Post
I can reproduce the sound without driving the car. After I get out of the car if I push the car back by pushing on the door frame I can hear the sound. Maybe if someone is taking in their car they can point this out. See if it works for you first though.
Same here, just pushing back or down gives out a nice squeak..
Reply With Quote
  #80  
Old 02-02-2009, 05:12 PM
IHatePho IHatePho is offline
In love with my car.
Location: Los Angeles, CA (Westwood)
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 41
Mein Auto: 2007 335i Conv
Quote:
Originally Posted by samiheik View Post
Same here, just pushing back or down gives out a nice squeak..
DUH. I'm an idiot. I totally meant to point this out to them when I dropped it off this morning. I know that s--t won't be fixed. They are going to play with my brakes though.
__________________
2007 335i Convertible. White. Coral. Most options.
Reply With Quote
  #81  
Old 02-04-2009, 07:24 AM
berford's Avatar
berford berford is offline
Awesome power!
Location: Suburban Chicago
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,851
Mein Auto: 2007 Alpin Weiss 335ci
Got "White Lightning" back yesterday and so far have not heard more squeaking. The service notes read: "cleaned pads, rotors and sensor." Hope it works. I'll write again if it comes back.
__________________

2007 BMW 335ci, Alpin Weiss, saddle brown, SP, PP (tree trim), Step, hot seats. Mod free. As pictured: on SSR GT1s with Goodyear F1s. AKA "White Lightnin'"
2012 Mini Cooper Hardtop S in chili red with white mirrors, top and racing stripes. AKA "Big Red S."
Euro Delivery pics here: http://picasaweb.google.com/berford/GermanyAndSwitzerland2007?authkey=uGnlSSrqMTY
Reply With Quote
  #82  
Old 02-04-2009, 07:49 PM
samiheik samiheik is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Boston
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 149
Mein Auto: BMW
Quote:
Originally Posted by berford View Post
Got "White Lightning" back yesterday and so far have not heard more squeaking. The service notes read: "cleaned pads, rotors and sensor." Hope it works. I'll write again if it comes back.
Hope I am wrong, but wait another 3k miles and I bet it is back..
Reply With Quote
  #83  
Old 02-05-2009, 10:19 AM
IHatePho IHatePho is offline
In love with my car.
Location: Los Angeles, CA (Westwood)
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 41
Mein Auto: 2007 335i Conv
I just got mine back and I don't have the service notes in front of me, but I know it said they replaced the sensor and cleaned the rotors. No squeak, but I'm not expecting that to last. I have service due around May I think, so if it does come back in 3k miles it should be around my service time.

My loaner was a 2009 328 sedan. Only 2k miles. I love BMW.
__________________
2007 335i Convertible. White. Coral. Most options.

Last edited by IHatePho; 02-05-2009 at 10:25 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #84  
Old 02-25-2009, 07:58 AM
Fishic Fishic is offline
Registered User
Location: Atl. Ga. USA
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 8
Mein Auto: Dodge Viper
It was discovered many years ago that brake squeal is not an issue with the pads to rotor contact, but a sonic vibration that can make any of the contact points from pads to caliper squeal. It's like that thing where you rub your wet finger around the rim of a crystal wine glass.
Do not try the so called "break bedding" this is exactly the best way to warp your rotors. I skimmed the article, and couldn't believe they actually tell you to look for bluing of the rotors. Blue steel is overheated steel!
The way to stop the squeal is stop squeal, or anti-squeal shims. The stop squeal is a silicone like gel that is applied to the rear surface of the pad. This usually works, BUT if the mechanic is hurried, as most are (especially dealers). They dont allow the compound to set for the several hours it takes before reassemly, and the fix wont last long.
Anti-squeal shims are sometimes available in a kit but mostly come on aftermarket pads already affixed. Original equipment pads typically do not have them nor are they available to dealers.
With a good set of aftermarket pads, a hearty amount of stop squeal, and some patience I can put the whammy on a squeal soooooo hard.
Reply With Quote
  #85  
Old 02-25-2009, 12:30 PM
Chitown-Irish's Avatar
Chitown-Irish Chitown-Irish is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Chicago, IL
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 546
Mein Auto: 11 X3 xDrive35i (F25)
Quote:
Originally Posted by IHatePho View Post
I just got mine back and I don't have the service notes in front of me, but I know it said they replaced the sensor and cleaned the rotors. No squeak, but I'm not expecting that to last. I have service due around May I think, so if it does come back in 3k miles it should be around my service time.

My loaner was a 2009 328 sedan. Only 2k miles. I love BMW.
I had the same work done to my car and it came back within a month. I hope you have better luck.
__________________
11 X3 xDrive35i F25 (CPO), Space Grey/Black Leather, Packages: Premium, Cold Weather, BMW Apps, Sirius and Technology. BMW CCA Member (WindyCity Chapter). Former car: 06 750i E65 (CPO)
Reply With Quote
  #86  
Old 03-09-2009, 06:42 AM
frazier128 frazier128 is offline
Registered User
Location: Atlanta
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 4
Mein Auto: 07 white 335i sport
There's that squeak

Because it is warmer and my windows are down, I started hearing a squeak at a very low speed. At first I thought it was someone else, but it was my car. I mentioned this to the dealer this morning and he said it sounded like the brakes, but I don't think its the brakes. I have to have my satellite radio replaced, so they will look at the wheels then.
Reply With Quote
  #87  
Old 03-09-2009, 05:33 PM
Bill-SD's Avatar
Bill-SD Bill-SD is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Bay Area
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,568
Mein Auto: 2007 335i Coupe
I took my car in last Friday. They replaced the pads, rotors, and sensor. The sound stopped. Hopefully it won't come back. That said that the pads were very dry and suggested that I be extra careful cleaning my wheels. I guess that could have contributed to the problem, but I am very careful cleaning the wheels. Whatever the problem, it was nice not to hear the sqeaking on my way home today
__________________
E92 335i - Monaco Blue/Saddle
F30 328i - Alpine While/Black|SportLine
Reply With Quote
  #88  
Old 04-07-2009, 04:20 AM
rjavelosa rjavelosa is offline
Registered User
Location: oregon
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2
Mein Auto: bmw 335i
Smile Squeaking Syndrome. ha!

Same problem as mine. Just started hearing this intermittent squeaking noise when i had the windows down coz it was so hot these past days. I thought I'm hearing it from the front but when I had my brother sit in the front passenger, he can totally tell it's coming from the back. Been hearing these for 3 days. You could also hear it when windows are closed but very faint or none at times. Brought to BMW dealer, a few chat and the mechanics guy is pretty sure its the brake sensor than comes in contact and causes the problem/noise. Changed the rears including brake pads. Still under warranty. He called me and things are fine now, couldn't hear any noise anymore. Hopefully these will solve the problem. They always have good services. NOW it's a SYNDROME everyone has, maybe or likely?
Reply With Quote
  #89  
Old 04-07-2009, 04:26 AM
rjavelosa rjavelosa is offline
Registered User
Location: oregon
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2
Mein Auto: bmw 335i
Funny........Squeaking syndrome.

Last edited by rjavelosa; 04-07-2009 at 04:29 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #90  
Old 04-26-2009, 04:08 PM
Christos Christos is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Central NJ
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 226
Mein Auto: 335i Coupe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Schott View Post
I don't think "most" 3 series owners have this problem. I'm sure this is annoying and I hope BMW resolves it quickly but just because you see it here a few or more times doesn't mean it's that common. I don't have this issue with my E90 328.

Thanks, Mike.
i have it and yes it's very irritating
Reply With Quote
  #91  
Old 04-26-2009, 04:45 PM
Bill-SD's Avatar
Bill-SD Bill-SD is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Bay Area
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,568
Mein Auto: 2007 335i Coupe
I'm sure "most" is a stretch, but it does seem to be a common problem. And it is very irritating! It's been a couple months since they fixed the problem on mine, and so far it hasn't retured.
__________________
E92 335i - Monaco Blue/Saddle
F30 328i - Alpine While/Black|SportLine
Reply With Quote
  #92  
Old 04-27-2009, 08:14 AM
berford's Avatar
berford berford is offline
Awesome power!
Location: Suburban Chicago
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,851
Mein Auto: 2007 Alpin Weiss 335ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill-SD View Post
I'm sure "most" is a stretch, but it does seem to be a common problem. And it is very irritating! It's been a couple months since they fixed the problem on mine, and so far it hasn't retured.
Ditto for me. Plus, I cleaned the sensor again myself when changing out the snows for performance tires last week.
__________________

2007 BMW 335ci, Alpin Weiss, saddle brown, SP, PP (tree trim), Step, hot seats. Mod free. As pictured: on SSR GT1s with Goodyear F1s. AKA "White Lightnin'"
2012 Mini Cooper Hardtop S in chili red with white mirrors, top and racing stripes. AKA "Big Red S."
Euro Delivery pics here: http://picasaweb.google.com/berford/GermanyAndSwitzerland2007?authkey=uGnlSSrqMTY
Reply With Quote
  #93  
Old 04-27-2009, 08:43 AM
LI E90 LI E90 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Long Island
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 134
Mein Auto: 07 328i
I have had my brakes replaced 3x and I still have squeaks and I have 15000 miles in 2+ years
__________________
2007 328i Jet Black/terra/burl prem,step, sport, heated seats, xenon, sirius
Reply With Quote
  #94  
Old 04-27-2009, 08:48 AM
berford's Avatar
berford berford is offline
Awesome power!
Location: Suburban Chicago
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,851
Mein Auto: 2007 Alpin Weiss 335ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by LI E90 View Post
I have had my brakes replaced 3x and I still have squeaks and I have 15000 miles in 2+ years
So sorry. I think a dirty sensor is the problem.
__________________

2007 BMW 335ci, Alpin Weiss, saddle brown, SP, PP (tree trim), Step, hot seats. Mod free. As pictured: on SSR GT1s with Goodyear F1s. AKA "White Lightnin'"
2012 Mini Cooper Hardtop S in chili red with white mirrors, top and racing stripes. AKA "Big Red S."
Euro Delivery pics here: http://picasaweb.google.com/berford/GermanyAndSwitzerland2007?authkey=uGnlSSrqMTY
Reply With Quote
  #95  
Old 05-11-2009, 10:01 AM
DonziJosh DonziJosh is offline
Boat Guy
Location: Holmes Beach, FL
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 124
Mein Auto: 2006 330i
Mine is at the dealership for the second time, as they work to resolve this sane exact squealing problem - along with defective wastegate solenoids that caused the "ENGINE MALFUNCTION" light to come on all the time. Allegedly, these solenoids are also the source of all sorts of other harsh engine noises I'm hearing.

The squeak is especially annoying when rolling up to a light (no brakes applied) or idling around at parking lot speeds.

All this, on top of my two HPFP replacements in 11,000 miles. People at the office are so used to seeing me with a loaner, my car is getting a reputation as flashy but failure prone.
__________________
CURRENT: 2008 BMW 335i Coupe / Space Gray / Coral Red Leather / Gray Poplar / Steptronic w/ Paddles / Sport Package / Premium Package / Nav & I-Drive / iPod / Sirius / Comfort Access. Delivered 8/4/2008 from BMW of Sarasota

PREVIOUS: 2006 BMW 330i / Black Sapphire / Beige Leather / Poplar / Steptronic / Sport Package / Premium Package / Comfort Access - Delivered October 6th, 2005 from Southpointe BMW in Sarasota, FL

Reply With Quote
  #96  
Old 05-20-2009, 10:50 AM
boothguy boothguy is offline
Piacere di guidare
Location: Vista CA
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,443
Mein Auto: 428 Cabrio - ED'ed 8-14
My '08 E93 just started exhibiting the low-speed squeak recently with about 8k miles on the clock. I've got the one where it squeaks a few times when starting from rest. But here's my question, since I haven't gotten under there to look as yet.

On most disc-braked cars, the wear sensor is simply a small sheet metal tab attached to the back of the brake pad, that will some in contact with the disk when the friction material is getting low and produce the squealing sound when the brakes are applied - not when they're off. Is the BMW wear sensor something different, or is the issue related to how much dust these pads seem to make?
__________________

My 2014 ED trip report: Born Yesterday - 3rd ED off to a (mostly) flawless start
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=793345


My 2011 ED trip report: Second ED off and running... after a brief interruption
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=545068


My 2008 ED trip report: "Thirteen months, 135 miles and wha....?"
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=288271

Last edited by boothguy; 06-02-2009 at 09:53 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #97  
Old 05-20-2009, 02:14 PM
DrGP's Avatar
DrGP DrGP is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: PA
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 566
Mein Auto: Sapphire/coral 335i Cp
I've had the problem from day one. From what I have learned it is due to a faulty sensor on the rear brakes. It actually requires replacing the brakes in order to replace the sensor. Last month Ii took car in for service and complained about it. SA said that they could not find the origin of the problem . Car scheduled for another service next week. I now will TELL THEM what the cause is and what is needed to fix it. Its kind of sad when the customer knows more than the service techs.
Reply With Quote
  #98  
Old 05-20-2009, 02:39 PM
Spagolli94 Spagolli94 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Philly
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,793
Mein Auto: 2017 3401
My dealer put on new rear pads. The squeak is gone... for now. I have a loaner 5 series today. It only has 5,000 miles and has the squeaky wheel from 1-20 mph.
Reply With Quote
  #99  
Old 05-20-2009, 09:33 PM
boothguy boothguy is offline
Piacere di guidare
Location: Vista CA
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,443
Mein Auto: 428 Cabrio - ED'ed 8-14
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrGP View Post
I've had the problem from day one. From what I have learned it is due to a faulty sensor on the rear brakes. It actually requires replacing the brakes in order to replace the sensor. Last month Ii took car in for service and complained about it. SA said that they could not find the origin of the problem . Car scheduled for another service next week. I now will TELL THEM what the cause is and what is needed to fix it. Its kind of sad when the customer knows more than the service techs.
Good luck with that tack. I've found that service writers at dealerships across a wide variety of makes shut down the on-board listeneing devices whenever a customer - any customer - mentions they heard something on "the Internet". If there's a technical service bulletin from the manufacturer, it's best to print out a copy to wave in the SA's face. And there doesn't seem to be one in this case. It doesn't matter how well-informed or well researched the opinion is, beware of citing a Web source to a service writer at virtually any dealership out there. Most dealership service writers, regardless of make, are convinced that actual knowledge about their particular make does not exist outside of the dealership's gates.
__________________

My 2014 ED trip report: Born Yesterday - 3rd ED off to a (mostly) flawless start
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=793345


My 2011 ED trip report: Second ED off and running... after a brief interruption
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=545068


My 2008 ED trip report: "Thirteen months, 135 miles and wha....?"
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=288271

Last edited by boothguy; 05-20-2009 at 09:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #100  
Old 05-27-2009, 12:52 AM
heyyo123 heyyo123 is offline
Registered User
Location: ottawa
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2
Mein Auto: 07 335i
does anyone know if installing non oem brakes would solve this problem.. this squeaking is so f'ing annoying and irritating..
Reply With Quote
Reply

See More Related BMW Stories


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series & 4 Series > E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2015 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms