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Old 05-27-2009, 08:23 AM
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does anyone know if installing non oem brakes would solve this problem.. this squeaking is so f'ing annoying and irritating..
Yes, it is very irritating and embarassing. As I've recounted here before, I had the car in four times and the last time they cleaned the brake pad sensor and I believe that did the trick. No noise since then. Tell your dealer about it...and good luck.

Amazing that you chose this as your first post.
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The dealership fixed my squeak a couple weeks ago by replacing the rear brake pads and wear sensor. Of course I am tentatively saying "fixed" because I haven't been able to drive the car that much - three trips to the dealership in three weeks due to various failures. Ridiculous.
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Old 05-29-2009, 08:10 PM
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i an have appointment on thursday for service. i made a video last night on my phone just in case they come back to me with the bs cannot reproduce problem. the squeak seems to be louder when the wheels are turned under acceleration .. ...
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:55 AM
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My problem initially was driving up to 40mph hearing a chirping without using the brakes. They replaced brakes and then it was a chugging sound going from 20 to stop while using the brakes and the chirping started again today without brakes. I just had the problem fixed today. After 3 hours and 3 attempts, they said it was the parking brake (needed adjustment and lubrication).
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I have this problem also. Been to two different dealers for 3 visits and two brake pad changes with no result. This squeaking is really annoying.
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Old 06-01-2009, 05:11 PM
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Mine started at about 6000 miles..
Need to find time to go to the dealer.. it really is annoying and yes it comes from the rear and only happens from a slow start. When driving on a road that has the concrete dividers and stuck in traffic, you will be able to hear it clearly.
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:40 AM
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Back to the shop again tomorrow - it's back. 4th time a charm???
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:51 PM
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Squeaking Wheel

I too am dealing with an obnoxious squeaking sound coming from my right front wheel. It occurs when I take my foot off the break, and continues up to ~20 MPH. At first, the dealer said it was noise related to the crappy Bridgestone RF tires, but after further explanation on my part they think it may be something else.

The car is in the shop right now and they are trying to replicate the sound. What is frustrating is when I took it in, it was squeaking louder than usual as I pulled it in the service garage. Of course, no one was paying attention when I pulled in so they didn't hear it.

I worked for this dealership for several years while in college, so they tend to be a bit more open about issues with me than the typical customer. I will let you know what I find out, if anything different from the prior posts.

Here's hoping they can make my nice 3 Series stop sounding like a 15 year Honda Accord
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:47 AM
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They fixed mine last week. It needed new wheel bearings..no noise at all.
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Old 06-09-2009, 05:57 PM
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Interesting. I just got my car back and they said it was the break pads and the sensor was rubbing? They replaced the rear pads and squeak is gone...for now.

We will see if it stays that way.
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Old 06-09-2009, 08:29 PM
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Just curious, does this problem occur on the 2009 328xi Coupe? Because that's what I'm planning to buy at the end of this year, and I can already say that I'll definitely be annoyed the **** out of by a problem like this...because I hate these kind of things.
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:49 PM
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as i posted much earlier in the thread, try cleaning the rear brake pad wear sensor if you're getting the low speed squeaking. mine came back recently (i had forgotten to clean the sensor when i put my summers back on)

its on the passenger side rear wheel. be careful not to lose the metal clip when pulling it out of the inboard pad.


out came the jack, off came the wheel, and the sensor got a cleaning with CRC brake clean again. ton of brake dust on the sensor... squeaking is gone again. I know it will be back in about 5-6K miles since it seems like thats how often i seem to need to clean it.

another theory:

I suspect the 335's are seeing this more often as the rear brakes are applied as a quasi limited slip when the dsc system senses a tire breaking free. More torque, more likely to cause DSC to intervene to slow a spinning wheel.
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I think i found the source of my low speed squeak. i have the same symptoms as everyone else.

its the brake wear sensor. its located on the right rear inboard brake pad.

I pulled the sensor and cleaned it with crc brake clean and the squeaking has gone away. the brake dust was really caked on around the wear point of the sensor, so i suspect the noise will be back.

the reason why replacing the pads works to fix the problem is because they usually replace or at the very least dislodge the sensor in order to replace the pads.

thats my theory anyway, but my car went from squeaking every time the brakes got warm to not at all.
Can you provide instructions for pulling the right rear brake sesnor and cleaning it?
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not much to it... once you pull the passenger side rear wheel, if you look at the caliper, there's a plastic piece coming out of the inboard side. if you gently (i say gently, as its easy to lose the metal spring clip if you yank it out) pull it straight out of the caliper, it will come loose. you now have the sensor in hand. the part of the sensor thats squeaking will be caked in brake dust. some crc brake kleen and a toothbrush are all thats needed to clean the sensor off. it just clips back in.



part 11 is the brake pads. the sensor clips into the U shaped notch if it helps you visualize things.

the sensor is 12, but does NOT look like the diagram, it looks like this, with a right angle plastic guide on it:


the part that needs to be cleaned is the black L shaped piece under the cable, the side facing away from the camera. you can see the metal retention clip in the groove on the sensor.
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not much to it... once you pull the passenger side rear wheel, if you look at the caliper, there's a plastic piece coming out of the inboard side. if you gently (i say gently, as its easy to lose the metal spring clip if you yank it out) pull it straight out of the caliper, it will come loose. you now have the sensor in hand. the part of the sensor thats squeaking will be caked in brake dust. some crc brake kleen and a toothbrush are all thats needed to clean the sensor off. it just clips back in.



part 11 is the brake pads. the sensor clips into the U shaped notch if it helps you visualize things.

the sensor is 12, but does NOT look like the diagram, it looks like this, with a right angle plastic guide on it:


the part that needs to be cleaned is the black L shaped piece under the cable, the side facing away from the camera. you can see the metal retention clip in the groove on the sensor.
Thanks, I'll give it a try...
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This is starting to happen on my 07' 335i, Squeak on accelerating at low speed - I agree with all of you - UGH! It's way too ghetto for my taste and having spent this kind of money on a BMW to have it sounding like a rusted out 91' Taurus is not okay
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I own 07 525i and having same problem with squeaking noise comming from passenger rear. To me it sound like the shocks or something. The brakes dont have to be applied for it to sound off. It does it picking up speed and slowing down and when going over bumps in road. Taking to dealer tommorrow. Will let you guys know.
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Awwww.....I'm sad. My car that was designed for high speed dashes down the autobahn and braking scenarios as a result of those high speed dashes is now making noise when I drive the car in stop and go traffic and tenderfoot the brake pedal. Maybe if BMW made a harder compound brake pad like everyone else does then the brakes wouldn't make that noise. But that would also mean my car wouldn't stop so good. Oh well who needs to stop on a dime anyway?

Heat up your brakes properly and you won't have that problem. Scrub the pad surface and there will be no abnormal noise.

My neighbor's lexus doesn't make brake noise.....You're neighbor's Lexus is designed in one of the most densly populated areas on earth where stop and go is a way of life so they design the brakes for that compromise.

And on a secondary note- A vehicle manufacture is legally obligated to open a RECALL based on a flaw in the manufacturing of a product that may result in physical damage to the vehicle or its occupants. Your squeaky brakes might be anoying but they're still working perfectly.

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Old 09-17-2009, 12:13 PM
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Awwww.....I'm sad. My car that was designed for high speed dashes down the autobahn and braking scenarios as a result of those high speed dashes is now making noise when I drive the car in stop and go traffic and tenderfoot the brake pedal. Maybe if BMW made a harder compound brake pad like everyone else does then the brakes wouldn't make that noise. But that would also mean my car wouldn't stop so good. Oh well who needs to stop on a dime anyway?

Heat up your brakes properly and you won't have that problem. Scrub the pad surface and there will be no abnormal noise.

My neighbor's lexus doesn't make brake noise.....You're neighbor's Lexus is designed in one of the most densly populated areas on earth where stop and go is a way of life so they design the brakes for that compromise.

And on a secondary note- A vehicle manufacture is legally obligated to open a RECALL based on a flaw in the manufacturing of a product that may result in physical damage to the vehicle or its occupants. Your squeaky brakes might be anoying but they're still working perfectly.
Wrong...in so many ways. And your very first posting, too. Better luck in the future.
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Once again, proof that someones opinion on someones fact is just that, an opinion. Good thing my post was a fact. How do I know? Because I have the ability to look at official documents from BMW. I can also email or call a Regional Technical Engineer for BMW if I wish. I see this everyday. 120+ cars a day......You drive 1.

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Old 09-17-2009, 01:25 PM
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Once again, proof that someones opinion on someones fact is just that, an opinion. Good thing my post was a fact. How do I know? Because I have the ability to look at official documents from BMW. I can also email or call a Regional Technical Engineer for BMW if I wish. I see this everyday. 120+ cars a day......You drive 1.

Thanks Berford.
Okay. First, the techs (like you, I guess) were unable to fix the problem with two consecutive pad cleanings. The condition was only fixed with a cleaning of the wear sensor...which procedure was suggested within this forum and related to the service manager before the third attempt. Note: cleaning the pads did absolutely no good.

Second, your posts (both) are rife with grammer and punctuation errors. Better luck next time.
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its issues with rear brakes afaik, they fixed mine (was nasty loud when reversing!). now itsslowly creeping back after 15000 miles driven. So whatever they did, was solid. and mechanic said they had a bulletin on it and konw about it.
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I said no where in either of my posts that this is a "problem". An annoyance, Sure, I'll give it that much. Bye the way, if you come to my service center, we replace the brake pads and sensors ONE time based on the customer complaint that they are squeaking. This usually proves to the owner that brake noise will come and go with certain driving conditions. "Cleaning" the pads....Never heard of it. To me it sounds like your service center was just making it difficult on you. Maybe because you are one of those guys that knows everything going into the door. Did you tell them you read about this on a forum? Haha! The look on your face right now. Go check your blood pressure.

p.s. My grammatical errors have nothing to do with the subject at hand and everyone will see that as just a cheap shot. Weak people do that. You're not weak are you?
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I said no where in either of my posts that this is a "problem". An annoyance, Sure, I'll give it that much. Bye the way, if you come to my service center, we replace the brake pads and sensors ONE time based on the customer complaint that they are squeaking. This usually proves to the owner that brake noise will come and go with certain driving conditions. "Cleaning" the pads....Never heard of it. To me it sounds like your service center was just making it difficult on you. Maybe because you are one of those guys that knows everything going into the door. Did you tell them you read about this on a forum? Haha! The look on your face right now. Go check your blood pressure.

p.s. My grammatical errors have nothing to do with the subject at hand and everyone will see that as just a cheap shot. Weak people do that. You're not weak are you?
In your first post you said, "Scrub the pad surface and there will be no abnormal noise." Now you say, "Cleaning the pads...never heard of it." WTF

Wow, so sensitive.
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