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Old 12-01-2009, 08:21 AM
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"We estimate that only a small percentage of vehicles will actually develop a problem."

Maybe I'm slow witted but this makes it sound as if the cars are defective not the HPFPs..
If this is so does this mean that because I have already replaced 2 HPFPs, that my car will continue burning through them?
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:41 AM
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"We estimate that only a small percentage of vehicles will actually develop a problem."

Maybe I'm slow witted but this makes it sound as if the cars are defective not the HPFPs..
If this is so does this mean that because I have already replaced 2 HPFPs, that my car will continue burning through them?
You may. My E92 had it's third fuel injector replaced today. The car has 12,000 miles on it. I expect to continue to have issues.
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What's strange is that with the 2007's (and maybe 2008's) the problems seemed to be only attributable to the HPFP failure, not injectors or other issues . . . what gives? Has the N54 gotten LESS reliable over time?
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:43 AM
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That is an amusing thought. My car's Vin fell in the "pump recall" SIB. I chose not to have it replaced at the time. The original pump went on till 59K. Then in the next 28K miles, I went through another three.

Fuel injectors didn't become an issue until the car went 80K+ miles.
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What's strange is that with the 2007's (and maybe 2008's) the problems seemed to be only attributable to the HPFP failure, not injectors or other issues . . . what gives? Has the N54 gotten LESS reliable over time?
I don't know. My 2008 E92 was totaled with over 13,000 miles. It never had ANY issues. My 2009 besides having 3 fuel injectors replaced (along with a couple of spark plugs and I believe an engine coil) today has had a few "shaky" episodes where fuel injection was an issue, but the CEL never came on and the shakiness stopped.
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Sweet, my car will be in at least another day for its current engine malfunction.
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:57 PM
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If the EPA authorizes E15 for 2010, everything might become even worse?
I just don't see how this can happen. It's not just BMW's that would be affected by this (right?).
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Hpfp problem

I have confirmed this again and again, human labor are much worse and frequent than parts failure. I did received the letter, and did nothing,even tough I did have the long crank symptom, nothing else, just a long crank once in a while. As I said the least you take your baby to the dealer, the best. However car needed to go for regular service, and the SA told me they had to replace the pump. So they did, I asked them NOT to program the ECU, but they said they had to program it with the latest update. When I picked up the car, there was a strong gasoline smell, I tought it was because the car just got out of the shop, the smell kinda went away a few miles later, but when I arrived and shut the car off, the smell was as if you open a gas pump. So I took the car back. YES, the mechanic had left some lines loose, I MEAN, I can believe that on other brands but BMW, c'mon, is not only the mechanics fault but there should be a supervisor checking the car before giving it back to the owner, or even the valet that brings you the car. Anyway, they refixed the pump, and this time I requested a test drive before going away. When driving with the foreman, I told him about the update ECU they just did and he told me that if I wanted the old program I should requested to BMW and sign a release, so I did, took about 24 hours to get ok from BMW and they reverted the ECU to its original program and the power back.

So, unless it is absolutely necessary, I do not take my car to the dealer. If it is not broken, do not fix it.

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If the EPA authorizes E15 for 2010, everything might become even worse?
Not if you drive a diesel.
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EPA wants do do away with Diesels in the U.S....
Citation supporting your claim?
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Old 12-02-2009, 12:00 AM
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Sweet, my car will be in at least another day for its current engine malfunction.
Magic 8 Ball says you are having second thoughts about getting the 335i....
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:04 AM
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What part of this don't you understand?

The EPA doesn't like Diesels because they view them as "dirty". Thankfully they are very practical and fuel efficient and we'd be wise in America to buy a lot more of them, especially now that they are extremely clean.
He means - cite a real source not conjecture.
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Magic 8 Ball says you are having second thoughts about getting the 335i....
Yeah, I was so stoked the day I decided on the 335i and then got my deal. 10 months later wow this car's been a headache - getting locked in it, broken navi, multiple engine repairs, alignment going out (which caused almost every light to blink on the dashboard).

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Old 12-02-2009, 12:30 PM
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What's strange is that with the 2007's (and maybe 2008's) the problems seemed to be only attributable to the HPFP failure, not injectors or other issues . . . what gives? Has the N54 gotten LESS reliable over time?
Wrong my friend; there's all kinds of stuff not worth listing. Fuels pumps and injectors are just the start. My 2008 is the slowest and highest priced horse in the stable. The other cars are rock solid vendor spec on all matters.
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Old 12-02-2009, 01:33 PM
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.. Worst case scenario is that you get a loaner for 2 days and then have a perfectly good HPFP. You would actually spend a lot less time dealing with the HPFP replacement, then you do complaining about the 335i.
No, worse case is your car dies in a 5 lane rush hour traffic situation and you are stranded in the middle of the interstate, perhaps causing a huge pile up. Or it dies on your wife in the middle of nowhere at night and BMW Assistance cant get someone to you quick enough and something terrible happens. Or just doesnt start one morning when you really need to get somewhere.
Now s#it happens to everyone now and again, but when there is a known fault and those responsible arent acting in the best interests of the consumers, then negligence comes into play and thats a different legal matter.
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So far a whopping seven people have replied to the NHTSA poll so we'll see if there is a good reason why NHTSA doesn't even know the N54 HPFP/Injector problems exist.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=416450
Well there are also 5 and 1 series people impacted by this.
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No, worse case is your car dies in a 5 lane rush hour traffic situation and you are stranded in the middle of the interstate, perhaps causing a huge pile up.
Yep. Happened to me.
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Old 12-03-2009, 06:21 AM
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Wrong my friend; there's all kinds of stuff not worth listing. Fuels pumps and injectors are just the start. My 2008 is the slowest and highest priced horse in the stable. The other cars are rock solid vendor spec on all matters.
I don't know what this means?

I was referring to engine problems resulting in CEL and limp mode, and the traffic on this board when I first picked up my 2007 in Munich. There were daily reports of HPFP failures, and people waiting as much as 4-6 weeks for replacements since all parts were going to new builds. I don't remember injector issues as much, but again this may be a wear and tear issue that is now just emerging.

Can you clarify what you're saying?
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I just received the letter for 2009 HPFP warranty. Are they slow or what?
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