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Old 04-14-2015, 12:50 PM
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looking at 2015 328i xdrive 36month/10K
Msrp $49210.00
sell $45911.75
UDE $1,000 rebate
Adjusted cap cost $44911.75
MF .00130
Res 65%
tax 7.38
Taxes $1,356.56

due at signing $2,695.56
includes First month payment $459
acquisition fee $795
documentary fee $75
inspection fee $10
tax on cap cost red. $73.75
State sales tax $1,218.65
Doc. fee tax $5.53
Tax on upfront acq. $58.63

total inception fees $2,695.56
Credits disbursed as:
Negative surplus cash -$2,695.56

deal rebate as cap $1,000

Monthly payment $459.00
Using calculator it says dealer cost is $44,820.40 edmunds says cost is $45615
Which is correct?

According to attached spreadsheet I should have Negotiating margin of $1,290.Click image for larger version

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Old 05-13-2015, 10:27 AM
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To the OP, this is fantastic - many thanks. One question: where would I enter the 1000 anniversary credit currently being offered by BMW? Thanks again.
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Old 05-13-2015, 11:35 AM
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To the OP, this is fantastic - many thanks. One question: where would I enter the 1000 anniversary credit currently being offered by BMW? Thanks again.
what do you mean?

Just take another 1k off the selling price of the car.
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I'm on an iPad. I see the instructions but not the actual link to the spreadsheet.
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The ultimate check your BMW 3 Series F30 deal thread

Check the first post - theres a link to a shared google doc.

Edit: just remembered that some links are not friendly with bimmer app. Try loading the page in safari and it should show up.
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Old 05-13-2015, 12:23 PM
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+1 to OP
Just entered a few quotes I received and your spreadsheet matches their numbers to the cent!
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Yep, thanks OP, great app. Q: if I want to use innovation and drive USA credits, does it make a difference if I put them in dealer incentive box or reduce the sales price? Looks like its the same thing, but just checking. Muchas gracias.
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Old 06-06-2015, 12:14 PM
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Yep, thanks OP, great app. Q: if I want to use innovation and drive USA credits, does it make a difference if I put them in dealer incentive box or reduce the sales price? Looks like its the same thing, but just checking. Muchas gracias.

The net effect should be the same - though Id throw it under the dealer incentives cell.
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Thanks OP; very helpful negotiating tool.

I was approached last week by my CA to take advantage of a 6-month pull ahead on my lease. I currently have 8 payments remaining (will be 7 in two days), so initially I had no interest in getting into a new lease and having a window of more than one payment. However, after seeing the current residuals and incentives available, I feel inclined to at least entertain the opportunity. I currently have a 328i Sport Line and would love to get into a 340i M-Sport, but feel as though the deals will be much better on existing stock 2015 335's.

I'm going to pay a visit to my CA this weekend and see if we can structure a deal where I take delivery as close to the end of the month as possible (thereby reducing my lease 'overlap' to only about 10 days before I would only have had 6 payments remaining on my existing lease). Is it still reasonable to aim for Invoice + ~$1,000 on an outgoing model or do you think the deals will be better as they look to clear out 335s?
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Old 06-09-2015, 09:17 AM
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Thanks OP; very helpful negotiating tool.

I was approached last week by my CA to take advantage of a 6-month pull ahead on my lease. I currently have 8 payments remaining (will be 7 in two days), so initially I had no interest in getting into a new lease and having a window of more than one payment. However, after seeing the current residuals and incentives available, I feel inclined to at least entertain the opportunity. I currently have a 328i Sport Line and would love to get into a 340i M-Sport, but feel as though the deals will be much better on existing stock 2015 335's.

I'm going to pay a visit to my CA this weekend and see if we can structure a deal where I take delivery as close to the end of the month as possible (thereby reducing my lease 'overlap' to only about 10 days before I would only have had 6 payments remaining on my existing lease). Is it still reasonable to aim for Invoice + ~$1,000 on an outgoing model or do you think the deals will be better as they look to clear out 335s?

I'd expect you could easily do better than invoice + 1k on a 2015 335 though your window for ordering one is only a few weeks as MY2016 production starts at the beginning of July.

If you nab a 335 off a dealer lot, Invoice + 500 should be easy as the summer incentives kick in.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:07 AM
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Thanks OP; very helpful negotiating tool.

I was approached last week by my CA to take advantage of a 6-month pull ahead on my lease. I currently have 8 payments remaining (will be 7 in two days), so initially I had no interest in getting into a new lease and having a window of more than one payment. However, after seeing the current residuals and incentives available, I feel inclined to at least entertain the opportunity. I currently have a 328i Sport Line and would love to get into a 340i M-Sport, but feel as though the deals will be much better on existing stock 2015 335's.

I'm going to pay a visit to my CA this weekend and see if we can structure a deal where I take delivery as close to the end of the month as possible (thereby reducing my lease 'overlap' to only about 10 days before I would only have had 6 payments remaining on my existing lease). Is it still reasonable to aim for Invoice + ~$1,000 on an outgoing model or do you think the deals will be better as they look to clear out 335s?

I'd expect you could easily do better than invoice + 1k on a 2015 335 though your window for ordering one is only a few weeks as MY2016 production starts at the beginning of July.

If you nab a 335 off a dealer lot, Invoice + 500 should be easy as the summer incentives kick in.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:30 AM
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Thanks OP; very helpful negotiating tool.

I was approached last week by my CA to take advantage of a 6-month pull ahead on my lease. I currently have 8 payments remaining (will be 7 in two days), so initially I had no interest in getting into a new lease and having a window of more than one payment. However, after seeing the current residuals and incentives available, I feel inclined to at least entertain the opportunity. I currently have a 328i Sport Line and would love to get into a 340i M-Sport, but feel as though the deals will be much better on existing stock 2015 335's.

I'm going to pay a visit to my CA this weekend and see if we can structure a deal where I take delivery as close to the end of the month as possible (thereby reducing my lease 'overlap' to only about 10 days before I would only have had 6 payments remaining on my existing lease). Is it still reasonable to aim for Invoice + ~$1,000 on an outgoing model or do you think the deals will be better as they look to clear out 335s?

I'd expect you could easily do better than invoice + 1k on a 2015 335 though your window for ordering one is only a few weeks as MY2016 production starts at the beginning of July.

If you nab a 335 off a dealer lot, Invoice + 500 should be easy as the summer incentives kick in.
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What would the residual be on a 10K miles/year lease for a 2015 328i? Working on a deal now ...
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What would the residual be on a 10K miles/year lease for a 2015 328i? Working on a deal now ...

Ask your dealer - they will have all the numbers. Cross reference with another dealer if you dont trust them.

Residual and MF are typically non-negotiables, though a sneaky dealer may discount these by increasing the sales price.
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Hey guys.... I have been anxiously waiting and planning on getting a new bmw after paying off student loans for the last 2.5 years. Now completely out of debt, I went to see what kind of deal I could get and here is what we settled on. I'm hoping you can tell me if I got a good deal or not.... Keep in mind I know the base MF is .00129, but I also know my credit score falls somewhere between 670-690, so I wasn't sure if I could get that. I think a .00149 MF represents a difference of $10-15 per month from the .00129.

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2015 328i
Mineral White w/ saddle brown leather

MSRP: 48,735
Selling Price: 44,251
+ fees,
-$2000 for trade in
MF: .00149
Residual: .65

Texas sales tax of 6.25%

36 mo/12k miles



Will write check for $1507 out the door with first months payment included, 35 more payments of $485 even (tax is included on that number)

After I had left the dealership, leaving with an offer of $2000 out the door and a payment around $530 (which I knew was significantly higher than it should've been) I called back and offered a check for $1500 and 475 a month. Within 5 minutes they called me back and offered the $1507 and $485 and I took it. The discount from MSRP was over 9%, which seems to be a pretty steep discount (isn't 5-7% good to shoot for?). Just wanted to see what those of you with more experience think.

It's my first ever lease, and I have spent so many hours on these (and other forums) trying to make sure I got a decent deal. They are detailing it for me in the morning and I will pick it up tomorrow afternoon, so let me know of anything else I should be wary of or ask about. Thanks!
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:06 PM
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The girlfriend is looking at leasing a 320 or 328, and after checking dealer inventory at the location where I picked up my 2015 X5 35i in the winter, we came up with the following car they had on the lot and worked the numbers:

2015 320xi
Premium Package
Navigation System w/Touchpad

Additional Options:
Wood Trim Interior
Heated Seats
Transmission: 8-Speed Automatic w/STEPTRONIC

MSRP: $42,250
Selling price: $38,750
Doc fee: 200
Acquisition fee: $995
Cap fees: $400
Cap taxes: $1,220.58
Less Innovations credit: $1,000
Less UDE: $1,000

Residual: .64
Residual amount: $27,040
Miles: 12K
Rate/MF: .00099 (max MSDs = $5,800)

Payment = $369.69


The car is decently equipped with the options she needs and wants as well. Originally had her sights set on a 328, but for the budget, looks like this 320 is a pretty good deal as far as I can tell. Thoughts?
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2015 328i xdrive pricing

I've been working on a selling price for a 2015 328i xdrive for a 36/15K lease.

So far I've been offered $44,385 for cold weather/prem/nav, excluding the $1000 anniversary cash. Original MSRP $47,590. No competitive offers from other dealers yet, just a lot of "would you consider a demo?".

My plan is no money down, and probably 7MSDs. In reading the forums it seems that others have gotten a better % off MSRP. One of the dealers said he couldn't compete with the above offer and that if that was offered, it was a very good deal.

I've been studying a lot trying to get proficient at understanding/calculating leases, but need some expert advice. Can I do better or should I look at less expensive options? I thought with model year end I would get a better deal.

Thank you all for your time and advice on this forum.
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Hey guys need help on a 435i lease deal. Let me know what you think.

2015 435i, Alpine white/ Coral Red Interior
All Packages are included (M-Sport, Nav, Premium, Drivers Assist., Full Lighting)

Additional Options Included:
Gloss Black Kidney Grills
Rear Performance Spoiler

MSRP: $63,835.00
Selling price: $58,465.00
Due on Delivery: $2,155.53

Total term depreciation: $18,887.30
Monthly Dep: $524.65
Monthly Lease Charge: $125.49
Base Payment:$650.14

Estimated Fees/Term: $1476.00
Total Taxes: $1820.99

Residual: .62
Residual amount: $39,577.00
Miles: 10K
Rate/MF: .00128

Monthly Payment = $698.90
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Different question- I have a 2009 Bmw - the fuel injectors are not working. I had a Bmw dealer evaluate it. I bought the parts and have someone replace all 6 injectors - does anyone know how many hour job it is? Has anyone had an experience where fuel injectors needed to be replaced?
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I've been working on a selling price for a 2015 328i xdrive for a 36/15K lease.

So far I've been offered $44,385 for cold weather/prem/nav, excluding the $1000 anniversary cash. Original MSRP $47,590. No competitive offers from other dealers yet, just a lot of "would you consider a demo?".

My plan is no money down, and probably 7MSDs. In reading the forums it seems that others have gotten a better % off MSRP. One of the dealers said he couldn't compete with the above offer and that if that was offered, it was a very good deal.

I've been studying a lot trying to get proficient at understanding/calculating leases, but need some expert advice. Can I do better or should I look at less expensive options? I thought with model year end I would get a better deal.

Thank you all for your time and advice on this forum.
Use the spreadsheet in the first post and follow the instructions. You have the right strategy, just make sure you're being offered the right numbers. Negotiating margin of $500 or less is great.
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I got the following offer:

European, delivery, US MSRP 55250
Negotiated price 47440 (500 over invoice)

MF 0.00110 w/ 7 MSD (base 0.00159)
36 month, 66% residual

995 acquisition fee (need to negotiate down to 795, but that's only 15/month)

Dealer quotes me 425 for that with 4500 down (due to the 7 MSDs worth 3500, so really only 1000).

The lease deal also includes an annual 420 "Ttl Annual fee" and 116 "Ttl Initial fee", which makes the total lease cost 468 / month (this is in California).

Is that the normal yearly California dmv fee or some extra dealer profit?

The spreadsheet otoh gives me 4000 for the Security Deposit (not even dividable by 7) and a rate of 463 but without these Ttl items.

From my own calculation 425 is actually pretty close to optimal.
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The lease deal also includes an annual 420 "Ttl Annual fee" and 116 "Ttl Initial fee", which makes the total lease cost 468 / month (this is in California).
Never mind, that's bogus. That's actually only the initial title cost for DMV. Everything is good and I think the spreadsheet actually matches the numbers (minus the security deposit being wrong).

I'll probably increase the downpayment a bit got decrease the deposit and bring the monthly down. Shouldn't matter over the whole lease duration though.
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I also need some help!

Looking at this:

2016 435i xDrive Gran Coupe
Carbon black or white (haven't decided)
Saddle brown or coral red (haven't decided)
M Sport with orbit gray 19" 442m (no up charge)
Cold weather
Driver assist
Track
Tech
MPPK
Mpe
Black kidney grills

He's coming up with an MSRP of around $65.5K.


Local dealer wants 60k flat. I told him mark up in mppk and Mpe is huge ( but i don't know invoice on these) and I think he can do better at 59k, or does anyone know if i can do better than that?

He said residual for 15k will probably be 58%.
Would it be better to get a 10K and prepay miles? I haven't done that calculation yet, but if anyone already has experience, it would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, all you guys are amazing with your advice. Some suckers walk right into a dealership with no idea how much oney they could be saving!

Kudos!

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Yes, 60K purchase price including D&H, acq fee, excluding taxes.
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