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View Poll Results: To get a 328i 2011 with 60k miles or a 2011 335i with 50-60k miles
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Old 06-13-2017, 08:25 AM
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First BMW, 328i vs 335i 2011 coupe

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I am very new to the world of BMW. I am interested in buying a 2011 328i Coupe with 60k miles on it or a 2011 335i Coupe with between 50k-62k miles. I have heard alot of maintenance horror stories when it comes to the 2011 335i even with an N55. Thus I am leaning towards the 328i because of the little to no major maintenance required things I am mostly worrying about are: wastegate issues with the N55, turbos being replaced, and hpfp. If anyone can lay out the common issues regarding the 335i and if its reasonable I may switch.


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Honestly very similar maintenance between the two. Get the 335i. E9x is a solid platform. I am not saying there are not issues, but they are pretty similar.

If this is forcing you to drive a 328 then just go by a Honda.

Get a 328 if you want the last of BMWs naturally aspired classic inline 6 that loves to be revved.

Get the 335i if you want to experience a powerful yet smooth turbo application on the I6.

Different driving experience. Drive both.

My three Miatas were all slower than the 328 but they were a ton of fun.

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I test drove 3 different 335i cars (1 E90 and 2 E92s) and a single E92 328i. I still bought the 328i.

It really depends on what you want. If you want better reliability go with the 328i. If you want better performance (and the ability to mod performance further) go with the 335i. Almost identical in terms of handling and both have an amazing sounding inline 6.

The 335i will be more expensive but the difference in performance over the 328i is huge.
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Here is what the 335 will cost over the 328

Spark plugs: 45K interval for 335 vs 100k (?) for the 328? Easy DIY. I just changed mine and spent less than $80 on the plugs. Coils may fail more often on the 335 and they are about $50 online.

Carbon cleaning. I drove a 2007 335i for 100K miles and never had this done. Car ran flawlessly. Have 43K miles on the 335 and don't see an issue yet. But assume $500 every 50K-70K I guess.

Everything else is pretty similar.
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2011 335i has N55 not N54 engines, no need carbon cleaning.

but true depend on what you are after, in general, more power always equate to more maintenance.
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2011 335i has N55 not N54 engines, no need carbon cleaning.

but true depend on what you are after, in general, more power always equate to more maintenance.
the n55 doesnt require walnut blasting?
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It's true the maintenance is pretty similar between the two, but I can guarantee you that the 328i won't have wastegate, turbo or HPFP problems.

Needless to say you have to drive them both. Remember the 335i will feel like a rocket ship compared to the 328i especially due to its low-end torque. Since the 328i is NA you're going to want to keep the RPMs up high to get the real feel for the torque.
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I made the unfortunate mistake of test driving the 335i lol
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also in regards of maintenance I am more referring to major issues
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the n55 doesnt require walnut blasting?
I have not seen anyone walnut blasting N55. The carbon build up is very slow if any on N55
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is the hpfp covered under the warranty I thoguh it was only the n54's
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I do want to mention as well this is my first car but I am very responsible. Frankly I liked the 335i. The one I saw specifically has 65k Miles on it
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N55 is DI, must need some cleaning ....
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N55 is DI, must need some cleaning ....
I figured it would just be more prolonged
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I have a 328i with 38000 It runs beautiful and goes as fast as I ever want to go, it will slap you back in your seat. I like to change the oil every year or 2. I don't care what they say I don't like dirty oil.
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Earlier this year my wife went from a MY14 X1 35i M sport to a E90 328i X drive (LCI). Honestly, for us not much difference. Sure the X1 35i was a blast to drive when you really punched it. But that was about it. I was surprised as to how well the 328 performs locally and on the highway. We are glad we opted for that instead of a 335i. OUR reason was that we didint want to deal with Fuel injectors, HPFP and or turbo's having to be replaced (maybe) at some point. And the 328 is far from perfect when it comes to maintenance as well, but we can deal with those as they come along.
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So it is a somewhat punchy car that goes plenty fast?
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So it is a somewhat punchy car that goes plenty fast?
The X1 35i was fast when it was asked to go fast. Turbos have that special feeling =).

Since my car was under warranty , I took it in a few times because i noticed the car wasn't performing like before. I took it in 3 times and they found nothing. No codes or other signs were given, but i know my car(s). Something wasn't right. In the end, we turned it in and they never found an issue.

Im happy with the 328. 335 would have a lot more availability for tuning, no question.
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for what it is worth, my 2011 335i has 52K miles. I've only owned it for 1k miles however. I took it to local and trusted German auto specialist and I specifically asked about checking to see if a walnut blasting was needed, based soley on comments on this forum. In this particular case, there was virtually no carbon build up *at all*. One car isn't a valid sample, but just saying don't assume you *have* to have this done. Same for plugs & coils, each was checked and there was virtually no indication for any need to swap/replace anything.

you didn't mention a price difference in your question/poll. if it is no impact and you can afford either car in the year/mileage range, then I'll vote 335i every time.
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With regards to the 335, each car is different and not every single 335 is a repair laden problem plagued money pit wallet draining financial disaster that's just waiting for you as soon as you take ownership. Yes. There are bad apples from the factory, but they represent only a small percentage of the total models built during that year, whereas, most cars are problem free besides the typical wear and tear things that go with age. I bought my 2010 335i new and this is my first ever BMW. At 7+ years and 86,000+ miles, I still own it and haven't had any major mechanical or electrical problems with it whatsoever. I maintain it well and it has been as reliable as the first day I drove it home.

Now when you go on sites like this, or other similar sites, the majority of the threads/posts you read about are problems, problems, problems, problems, problems,.....because when there are no problems there's nothing to talk about. Therefore, it makes you panic thinking that once you buy a 335 you're going to be taking in for frequent repairs month after month, year after year. That is not the case.

If the previous owner maintained it properly, then you may have found yourself a gem. However, before you pull the trigger, you definitely have to do your research and get as much info (accidents, history of repairs, etc.) about the car (from the previous owner if possible) and get a PPI so you will know what services or repairs it will need should you decide to buy.

As for the 328, it may have the same reliability, or more, relative to the 335, but if you think the car needs a little more 'GO' power, forget it. You'll spend $$$$ on upgrades (i.e. intake, tune, exhaust) that wouldn't give you any huge HP gains that you would really feel and therefore will be a waste of money (better off buying a 335 for the same value and with greater HP gains with mods). Others will beg to differ, but it's up to you and whether money is no object or whether you don't really care to mod it.

Just my 2 cents.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
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With regards to the 335, each car is different and not every single 335 is a repair laden problem plagued money pit wallet draining financial disaster that's just waiting for you as soon as you take ownership. Yes. There are bad apples from the factory, but they represent only a small percentage of the total models built during that year, whereas, most cars are problem free besides the typical wear and tear things that go with age. I bought my 2010 335i new and this is my first ever BMW. At 7+ years and 86,000+ miles, I still own it and haven't had any major mechanical or electrical problems with it whatsoever. I maintain it well and it has been as reliable as the first day I drove it home.

Now when you go on sites like this, or other similar sites, the majority of the threads/posts you read about are problems, problems, problems, problems, problems,.....because when there are no problems there's nothing to talk about. Therefore, it makes you panic thinking that once you buy a 335 you're going to be taking in for frequent repairs month after month, year after year. That is not the case.

If the previous owner maintained it properly, then you may have found yourself a gem. However, before you pull the trigger, you definitely have to do your research and get as much info (accidents, history of repairs, etc.) about the car (from the previous owner if possible) and get a PPI so you will know what services or repairs it will need should you decide to buy.

As for the 328, it may have the same reliability, or more, relative to the 335, but if you think the car needs a little more 'GO' power, forget it. You'll spend $$$$ on upgrades (i.e. intake, tune, exhaust) that wouldn't give you any huge HP gains that you would really feel and therefore will be a waste of money (better off buying a 335 for the same value and with greater HP gains with mods). Others will beg to differ, but it's up to you and whether money is no object or whether you don't really care to mod it.

Just my 2 cents.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
Thank you very much it clears alot of things up. Especially with this being my first car and furthermore my introduction to BMW I figure this is the best car that really defines who they are as a brand. And you are right people dont post the good stuff with these cars because there would be nothing to talk about, but rather speak on the small minority of issues that plauged early production N55 motors
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Are there any wastegate issues known with the n55 motor?
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Also to everyone on this thread. I have found a 2012 335i coupe with about 64k miles on it. Should I go for it?
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If you can afford it. I like my 328 it has no turbo charger, I like the natural aspirated engine in my 328. If you want something better than a 328i get a 5 series. Good luck.
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