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Old 06-16-2017, 10:01 PM
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Run flat internal damage

Hey Guys,

Just picked up my first BMW, 2014 F30 328 sport line and thought I would share some pics of internal damage to run flats that was not noticeable on 3 of the tires and only a small sidewall bubble on the other.

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I was annoyed I had to replace them immediately after buying the car to pass inspection but after seeing the internal damage and how deep the sidewall crack was causing the bubble I am really glad to have them off the car. Put on pilot sport a/s 3+

Looks to me like all 4 were run flat at some point before or after lease turn in then sold at an auction. Then sold to me


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Old 06-17-2017, 01:45 AM
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There's a big market for used RFT's, lease return customers who find used RFT's that meet BMW FS's tread depth requirements (4/32nds inch).

There are a lot of potential gotcha's with used BMW's. The only person I'd trust to buy a used BMW from is... me. So, I buy new and keep them 100k miles.
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Old 06-17-2017, 03:09 PM
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That's one of the downsides to buying what I assume was a lease turn-in. That individual may have damaged the tires or bought beat up used ones. Who knows what else was done or ignored.
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Old 06-18-2017, 08:29 AM
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Did you get to see if there was ever a tire repair anywhere? Aside from that, yours is a good demonstration of why you should not simply repair a RFT without inspecting the inside first, or continuing to drive on a reinflated RFT after you have driven extensively on a severely underinflated RFT without inspecting the inside of the tires For Pirelli specifically, it is also the reason Pirelli does not recommend repairing its RFT. I'd try to go back to whoever you bought the car from to get some remediation. Sucks, tire companies don't integrate some sort of crush marker visible from the outside to identify if a RFT has been driven severely under inflated or flat.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:31 AM
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There's a big market for used RFT's, lease return customers who find used RFT's that meet BMW FS's tread depth requirements (4/32nds inch).

There are a lot of potential gotcha's with used BMW's. The only person I'd trust to buy a used BMW from is... me. So, I buy new and keep them 100k miles.

Very wise. You have the warranty period to fix estupidos BMW's famous for, unlike Honda. I've yet to drive a Honda as competent as a BMW. Or a BMW that wasn't overpriced.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:37 AM
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Did you get to see if there was ever a tire repair anywhere? Aside from that, yours is a good demonstration of why you should not simply repair a RFT without inspecting....

Dude I'm certain the bad shoes were purchased to slide past the lease turn-in tread requirement. Ya get what ya pay for....Craigslist.

Equally certain seller[s] knew they were damaged, thus for sale.


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Old 06-22-2017, 09:44 AM
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What you guys said sounds about right. They had just enough tread to pass and almost looked ok from the outside. I think they may have actually swapped out the wheels and tires but who knows. Love the new non run flat tires though!


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Old 06-22-2017, 02:04 PM
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The tire date stamp can show the tires are not original. My tires were made two months before the car was made.

If the embossed date is 0314, the tires are from the third week of 2014.

Many engine and car parts also have date stamps.
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I'd be really pissed at the mechanic you paid to do your PPI (Pre-Purchase Inspection). You DID pay for a PPI before buying a used car, right?
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Very wise. You have the warranty period to fix estupidos BMW's famous for, unlike Honda. I've yet to drive a Honda as competent as a BMW. Or a BMW that wasn't overpriced.
Honda S2000.... a Miata for men... a go cart with a license plate.

I had a business trip to SoCal back in 2000. There was a Budget Rent-A-Car down by LAX that had everything: RR's. Porsche's, Miata's, S2000's, Ferrari's. I was going to get a Boxter, but the clerk talked me into the S2000. I drove up to Oxnard along the PCH, after messing around in the hills above Malibu. The thing was too small for me to live with for ten years, and I'm not really a convertible person. But, I had a blast. When I got back home I got on the list (pretty much at the front) for an E46 M3.

If Honda had admitted a few decades ago ago that FWD has its limitations, BMW would be out of business today.
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My dad uses my car for highway trips. He knows absolutely nothing about cars and when he came back from the trip he still said that my BMW has the worst tires he has ever ridden on... he was going 90km/h on a one lane road in cold weather and the car drifted onto the wrong side of the road... needless to say I ditched those horrific goodyears. I like to corner aggressively and these tires just sapped confidence like it was nothing. They were also a death trap in snow with my car being RWD.

Especially you guys with leases - when you pick the car up get new good tires for it right away. When it's time to bring the car back in, slap the RFT's back on.
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My dad uses my car for highway trips. He knows absolutely nothing about cars and when he came back from the trip he still said that my BMW has the worst tires he has ever ridden on... he was going 90km/h on a one lane road in cold weather and the car drifted onto the wrong side of the road... needless to say I ditched those horrific goodyears. I like to corner aggressively and these tires just sapped confidence like it was nothing. They were also a death trap in snow with my car being RWD.

Especially you guys with leases - when you pick the car up get new good tires for it right away. When it's time to bring the car back in, slap the RFT's back on.
I don't think a car just drifts because it is cold out.
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I don't think a car just drifts because it is cold out.
He hit a patch of black ice and the car just lost control. I found it hard to believe at first because these cars are so stable, but he is not an aggressive driver by any means. I know that he did not intend to drift when it happened. When it got cold out and I still had those tires let me just say I believed him more...
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He hit a patch of black ice and the car just lost control. I found it hard to believe at first because these cars are so stable, but he is not an aggressive driver by any means. I know that he did not intend to drift when it happened. When it got cold out and I still had those tires let me just say I believed him more...
So how does that have anything to do with the tires? It doesn't matter what kind of car you are driving or what tires, black ice is black ice.
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