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Old 06-18-2017, 10:46 AM
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Exclamation Brake Replacement Time - Linear Braking

My pads are almost down to 3mm and will be pulling the trigger on a full brake job soon. Got a quote from an indy garage for roughly $1k for both front and back (rotors, pads, sensors) with OEM parts.

One of the very few things I miss from my old GTI was the linear brake feel and the stopping distance. I know that the RFTs on my 328i are no match for the summer tires I had on my GTI, but looking to see how I can improve braking performance with the tires I have.

One of the thing the garage suggested was that I should consider upgrading to Stoptech brakes. Approx $600 more but they claim its going to be lot closer to what I was used to.

So looking for thoughts and ideas? Note that when I got the car, the pads were probably didn't have a whole lot of meat on them. So it's possible that with a new OEM set, the brakes are going to be just as good, if not better, than my GTI.

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1. People who drove/are driving the GTI and had/have F30, with a new set of OEM brakes, are the cars comparable?

2. People who upgraded their brakes to Stoptech and/or other brakes, what are your thoughts about the extra $$ spent?

PS: I did my brake fluid flush per schedule. Also, car is a Luxury Line with 416 style wheels, just in case that matters.
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Old 06-18-2017, 01:16 PM
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$1K for parts/labor on all 4 corners looks like great price.

Bet the new pads/rotors greatly improve stopping power. Personally I'd stick with OEM setup if this is a daily driver and you don't auto-x or track the car.

Also suggest you DO NOT 'bed' your new brakes via StopTech's (or others) procedures; unless you live in the sticks it's difficult to find enough 'runway' to employ repeated speed-up, slow down cycles required to properly heat and cool the brakes. Stick with the 'go easy on the brake pedal' for 250 miles or so and you're good.

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Old 06-18-2017, 01:32 PM
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New pads, rotors and a brake flush should give you close to a new car feel IF tires are in good condition and suspension is still reasonably tight.

Most newer car brakes are linear in application. It's wear that causes them to feel inconsistent, grabby or soft.
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New pads, rotors and a brake flush should give you close to a new car feel IF tires are in good condition and suspension is still reasonably tight.

Most newer car brakes are linear in application. It's wear that causes them to feel inconsistent, grabby or soft.

That's good advice. And look, OP, you can do for $500 as [pads + rotors + sensors + new brake fluid] are among the easiest jobs for the Shadetree Mech.

Dude it's Summer! Git yer hands dirty....get t'know your ride.
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If you like the original BMW brakes, get the OEM ones if you can swing it.

Them suckers saved me from an accident with a fire truck, so I stayed with OEM, which my indy recommended. The bill is paid and gone, so I don't think about it, but the brakes stayed as good as new.
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Check your suspension bushes while you are at it...how many miles has your ride done?

Whole lot of servicing you can do yourself so long as any warranty allows.

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I considered improving initial bite on my F30 to make it more like the E90. I would have changed to firmer pads and added SS brake lines.
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Old 06-18-2017, 05:04 PM
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$1K for parts/labor on all 4 corners looks like great price.

Bet the new pads/rotors greatly improve stopping power. Personally I'd stick with OEM setup if this is a daily driver and you don't auto-x or track the car.

Also suggest you DO NOT 'bed' your new brakes via StopTech's (or others) procedures; unless you live in the sticks it's difficult to find enough 'runway' to employ repeated speed-up, slow down cycles required to properly heat and cool the brakes. Stick with the 'go easy on the brake pedal' for 250 miles or so and you're good.

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10-4 regarding the bedding, Bill. Just that I have not driven a new F30 BMW. I've driven a bunch of used ones as I was purchasing mine. Mine had 40k ish when I bought it.

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New pads, rotors and a brake flush should give you close to a new car feel IF tires are in good condition and suspension is still reasonably tight.

Most newer car brakes are linear in application. It's wear that causes them to feel inconsistent, grabby or soft.
I sure hope that should do the job.

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That's good advice. And look, OP, you can do for $500 as [pads + rotors + sensors + new brake fluid] are among the easiest jobs for the Shadetree Mech.

Dude it's Summer! Git yer hands dirty....get t'know your ride.
One thing I promised never to touch on my cars are the brakes. You know, for safety. I'm open to and have done a few different kinds of installs with youtube help, but this is just too much.

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If you like the original BMW brakes, get the OEM ones if you can swing it.

Them suckers saved me from an accident with a fire truck, so I stayed with OEM, which my indy recommended. The bill is paid and gone, so I don't think about it, but the brakes stayed as good as new.
Pretty solid endorsement for OEM brakes. Looking at most replies, it's probably just that my old brakes were soft as I bought them. New install should give me the nice linear brake feel.

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Check your suspension bushes while you are at it...how many miles has your ride done?

Whole lot of servicing you can do yourself so long as any warranty allows.

At 51k miles now. Suspension was checked around 40ish k when I bought the car. Per inspection, they seemed ok.

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I considered improving initial bite on my F30 to make it more like the E90. I would have changed to firmer pads and added SS brake lines.
Will do some more research on this. So what pads do you recommend?

And stainless steel brake lines like this one? - http://store.uucmotorwerks.com/stain...8dx-p1521.aspx

Thanks!
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Old 06-18-2017, 07:43 PM
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10-4 regarding the bedding, Bill. Just that I have not driven a new F30 BMW. I've driven a bunch of used ones as I was purchasing mine. Mine had 40k ish when I bought it.


One thing I promised never to touch on my cars are the brakes. You know, for safety. I'm open to and have done a few different kinds of installs with youtube help, but this is just too much.






Thanks!
Brake pad and rotor replacement is quite simple/straightforward; sure, if you're not comfortable with doing the work just pay the mechanic. I'm not an auto mechanic but I'm reasonably proficient with a wrench , I've owned 8 BMW's and I always perform my own pad/rotor (and brake bleeding) work - frankly I feel more comfortable driving the car after I work on it than when a mechanic does.

That price of you were quoted is very reasonable if it includes parts and labor.

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I considered improving initial bite on my F30 to make it more like the E90. I would have changed to firmer pads and added SS brake lines.
Just switching to the M sport's Euro-spec pads would probably help a bit (since OP's car is Luxury line they have US spec pads for reduced brake dust).
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I sure hope that should do the job.
It will, however pay close attention to the IF. Slapping performance pads on your car may get you little more than noise and brake dust.
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:55 AM
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10-4 regarding the bedding, Bill. Just that I have not driven a new F30 BMW. I've driven a bunch of used ones as I was purchasing mine. Mine had 40k ish when I bought it.



I sure hope that should do the job.



One thing I promised never to touch on my cars are the brakes. You know, for safety. I'm open to and have done a few different kinds of installs with youtube help, but this is just too much.



Pretty solid endorsement for OEM brakes. Looking at most replies, it's probably just that my old brakes were soft as I bought them. New install should give me the nice linear brake feel.



At 51k miles now. Suspension was checked around 40ish k when I bought the car. Per inspection, they seemed ok.



Will do some more research on this. So what pads do you recommend?

And stainless steel brake lines like this one? - http://store.uucmotorwerks.com/stain...8dx-p1521.aspx

Thanks!
I never did it so never chose these components.
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Brake parts pricing vary widely 30-40% for the same products. I have used Rockauto.com for most of my parts needs. I don't change my own oil but always do brakes and tune ups. Relatively easy work that can save you hundreds of $. I started doing them again myself after watching a shop work on my car and was putting inferior thinner rotors on. Why because that's what an auto parts sent them. If I wasn't watching, I would not have known until overheating and warping the rotors months later.
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