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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 05-27-2014, 10:23 PM
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looks like this will be my project this summer to do as my engine hydrolocked this winter with the ccv freezing up. but the 3.0i m54 in my x5 is currently running strong .smoked for a few days realy bad but getting better .doesn`t smoke unless I drive it for more than half hr when the exhaust is hot. but when it does its barely noticable.
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As to those wanting to eliminate the mayonnaise, run ethanol free fuel if you can find it and the volume will be reduced dramatically as it is often caused by water in your fuel being deposited in the crankcase due to blow by.
I run ethanol free and have 0 mayo
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:59 PM
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Hello Guys,
Thank you for sharing, my M54 2001 E39 has been burning oil for years, power is still good though, I have changed the CCV 3 years ago but the oil consumption has been going up the last 1 year & now at the rate of 1L/500miles, I have finally decided to join the group & install a OCT.

What I did:
1. connect the hose from VC to OCT
2. Hose from OCT to PCV then to IM
3. plug the oil drain cap

I have been using 10W40 semi syn oil and after the OCT installed, I plan to use 5W50 fully syn oil.

Took me a few days to get done as I can only do it at night and due to problem sourcing for connectors and hoses.
Last night when I finally done and start the car, it run like crap for a few minutes as if it was running on 5 cylinders and engine died once (it was norm whenever I left it for a few days), what is the possible problem? anyway it was fine after it reach norm temperature.

I also discover that while the car is running, it was difficult to open the oil filing cap as the vacuum is sucking the cap, could that be the case of too much vacuum?, can too much vacuum damage the engine? BTW I used a 1 way valve which is normally use for brake application as PCV.



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Old 07-03-2014, 05:07 PM
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You need to use a PVC Valve--not a one way valve--I used a PVC for an old Ford 6 cylinder engine on mine--there are others you can use though--the way yours is set up now--you have too much vacuum being pulled and it's not controlled--you will still have the same amount of vacuum though after using the PVC --but it will be incrementally pulled from the carnckcase--that's what the PCV will do
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:58 PM
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I know I`m on the e39 forums but I have the same m54 engine so I thought I wouls share my pics of my catch can install. I had to take a pic of my son future BMW mechanic lol.
by the way no more ccv and put about 200km with no problems at all running smooth. thanks to everyone here that has helped out .
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Old 07-03-2014, 09:05 PM
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Hello Poolman,
Based on your advice, i have bought the Mercedes Benz A 2710180029 Air Pump Check Valve M271, please refer:
http://www.everythingbenz.com/z/part...mp-check-valve
the valve has spring and plunger inside, I assume this is what you call a PCV?
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I know I`m on the e39 forums but I have the same m54 engine so I thought I wouls share my pics of my catch can install. I had to take a pic of my son future BMW mechanic lol.
by the way no more ccv and put about 200km with no problems at all running smooth. thanks to everyone here that has helped out .
what did you reduce your hoses to? too many clamps and cuts for it not to be a giveaway
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Old 07-04-2014, 04:24 AM
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I checked the pcv I just bought...it takes a little more pressure to blow through as compared to the 1 way valve i installed yesterday.. I have now installed the pcv, same strong vacuum at the oil fill cap, reading through the previous discussion again, such strong vacuum is normal, so I m going to test the car at a distance tonight.

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Old 07-06-2014, 05:39 AM
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Finally tested the car, felt more power & faster response, I will update on oil consumption in a week time.

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Old 07-06-2014, 07:43 AM
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what did you reduce your hoses to? too many clamps and cuts for it not to be a giveaway
I used 5/8-1/2 rudeucerand 3/4-1/2 reducer
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Now, i see it!...how my car burn oil, drove in 42C today, when I stop at the traffic light, notice smoke coming out from my car, took it aside and discover the hose from OCT to IM has crumple due to heat and vacuum and oil is blowing out from the valve cover due to pressure, I know this has been mentioned b4 but as i cannot find the 5/8" fuel hose, I used the gas hose.. big mistake, I release the pressure and took the car home, temporary replace with 3/8" fuel hose that I kept, all seems fine now but now i have to change the valve cover gasket next.
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Old 10-05-2014, 12:40 PM
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Hi,

I'm just back from the garage after first tests with the catch tank fitted.
I used Subaru's PCV (11810AA000). According to the seller it is used on naturally aspirated engines only.

New setup:
Valve Cover -> Catch Tank -> PCV -> Intake Manifold
Both inputs at the distribution piece are used.
The oil drain at the sump is plugged.

The problem is that I cannot feel the vacuum at the oil filler cap at all. There is no pressure either. The engine runs fine at idle.
With the original BMW CCV I could feel the vacuum by pressing my hand against the oil filler hole. With the new setup I expected to have even bigger vacuum.

Then I put back the oil filler cap and took off the hose between the catch tank and the PCV. From the catch tank side I could smell fumes and from the PCV side I could feel evident vacuum. Why is it gone at oil filler hole?


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was it working fine when you first installed the set up?
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Old 10-05-2014, 02:50 PM
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The spring may be too strong for the engine--(your sure you have it fitted the correct way,,I take it)--I used a PCV valve from a late 60's Ford 6 cylinder, bought from Auto Zone --it had a 90 elbow--or you could try the one Eparyno
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Old 10-06-2014, 11:35 AM
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Hi,


"was it working fine when you first installed the set up?"
The engine run smooth from the first startup with the OCT. At te beginning with the oil filler cap removed, after checking that there is no pressure I've also tried with the cap on. Comparing to the OEM CCV there was no engine (RPM) reaction when placing the cap back.


"The spring may be too strong for the engine--(your sure you have it fitted the correct way,,I take it)--I used a PCV valve from a late 60's Ford 6 cylinder, bought from Auto Zone --it had a 90 elbow--or you could try the one Eparyno"

Looking at schematics or different pictures it seems that it is being screwed into intake manifold so I directed the threaded end towards the distribution piece:
http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minka...2d455859e8.jpg

Getting late 60's american parts would be difficult here, but I think I found the direct replacement for PCVs listed by Eparayno:
5175350AA made by MOPAR for 2.7 (167 ci) and 3.5 (214.7 ci) liters V6 engines.
http://www.yoyopart.com/oem/12316647...ml#application

Is that the right one?

Thanks for help
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Old 10-06-2014, 01:14 PM
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The link you posted has no pictures so I don't know if it's the same part I used. I have 156,000 miles on my car now so I put a little over 30,000 on the setup and it is still working perfectly. There is very little blowby in my catch can in between changes now and zero oil consumption.
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Old 10-06-2014, 01:54 PM
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Here is the link to the picture:
http://img16.allegroimg.pl/photos/or.../98/4612209842

30,000 miles without oil consumption seems enough to prove that this solution works.
I'm just wondering how it will behave during the winter with temperatures around 5F in the morning.
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Old 10-06-2014, 02:02 PM
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That looks exactly the same as the PCV valve I use. The threaded part points towards the intake manifold btw.
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Old 10-06-2014, 02:30 PM
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Thanks for confirmation . It's a rule of thumb already.
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