I want to add some more power to my 323ci. What else besides cold air, exaust, chip, and turbo/super can u do. Can't afford the Turbo/ super right now. Any ideas?
have you done all of those things?Carskibum said:I want to add some more power to my 323ci. What else besides cold air, exaust, chip, and turbo/super can u do. Can't afford the Turbo/ super right now. Any ideas?
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65974&highlight=bimmerfest+stickerCarskibum said:I want to add some more power to my 323ci. What else besides cold air, exaust, chip, and turbo/super can u do. Can't afford the Turbo/ super right now. Any ideas?
Most efficient method, without being trite about it, is to sell the 323ci in spring and buy a 330ci or an E36 M3 coupe. Probably cheaper than a s/c kit installed, and less likely to go pop. Also a better investment since the 330/M3 will retain part of whatever additional value you put in to do the trade, whereas a s/c kit isn't likely to retain much or any of its value.Carskibum said:I want to add some more power to my 323ci. What else besides cold air, exaust, chip, and turbo/super can u do. Can't afford the Turbo/ super right now. Any ideas?
:stupid: x 1000norihaga said:Most efficient method, without being trite about it, is to sell the 323ci in spring and buy a 330ci or an E36 M3 coupe.
After asking my mechanic so many many many times about how to find more horse/Torque out of my 323ci, I am kind of give up on that. I have put into a Conforti CAI, Shark ECU ugrade, Turner light weight flywheel, and the light wheel pulley set. A slight improvement is found but not significant. About cat-back or exhaust, it will improve the exhaust note, but not really on engine power. Putting a turbo/supercharger is the most effective way, but I can't (at least for myself) believe myself driving a Non-N/A Bimmer.Carskibum said:I want to add some more power to my 323ci. What else besides cold air, exaust, chip, and turbo/super can u do. Can't afford the Turbo/ super right now. Any ideas?
Werd. :angel:kenzo said:After asking my mechanic so many many many times about how to find more horse/Torque out of my 323ci, I am kind of give up on that. I have put into a Conforti CAI, Shark ECU ugrade, Turner light weight flywheel, and the light wheel pulley set. A slight improvement is found but not significant. About cat-back or exhaust, it will improve the exhaust note, but not really on engine power. Putting a turbo/supercharger is the most effective way, but I can't (at least for myself) believe myself driving a Non-N/A Bimmer.
Camshaft?? Okay, then you better pick up the valve spring and etc etc.....
i changed my wheels to lighter ones. i wouldn't mind swapping in a compact spare as well.Carskibum said:I want to add some more power to my 323ci. What else besides cold air, exaust, chip, and turbo/super can u do. Can't afford the Turbo/ super right now. Any ideas?
Werd! Just ask Stuka how many E36/E46 M3s he's pwnzed in his lowly E30 325is :rofl:The Roadstergal said:More performance? Driving schools.
And with the $3,800 incentive you can easily negotiate a 330i ZHP in the $35-36K range BRAND NEW if you didn't want too many options. You could trade in your 323 and then already be at 235 HP without adding anything.rumratt said:buy a 330. Serioulsy. For the money you're spending on mods you could have bought a 330.
Dude, it better have been a SHO (S*** Head Ogre)jenSWflorida said:Some TAURUS beat me at a red light. How can that happen?!?!?!? Do I need a tune up or something??
I heard that. one way to increase performance is obviously reduce weight in your car. Take out the spare tire, get lighter wheels, invest in carbon fiber (like it really makes much of a difference), lose weight.HW said:i changed my wheels to lighter ones. i wouldn't mind swapping in a compact spare as well.
Dude there are tons of crappy cheapo American cars that can kill you of the line, does that make these cars better somehow? Look at it this way... you can better them in two other categories on the highway and the twisties.jenSWflorida said:Some TAURUS beat me at a red light. How can that happen?!?!?!? Do I need a tune up or something??
No, I believe there is something we can do (I own a 323i with a Step) and here is what I am doing. My mechanic races bimmers and is good at what he does. I toyed with the FI thing, but in the end decided that I wanted my car to last and as some one put it, "not go boom".Staszek said:I hate some of these answers, sell your car???
Does anyone think he might be happy with his car? I know I am with mine, I plus its PAID OFF!!
Give him some answers to what he can do with what he has.
There are several people I have seen who have made the 323 (as long as its a manual) quite quick
Look up Slow323 on the e46fanatics board.
He has simple bolt ons, Conforti Intake, Shark, Exhaust, and Differential, did everything for under $2000 and his car runs with 330's.
Many of you probably havent even seen a Dyno of a 323, they not far off from the 328's at all. Dont look at marketing literature.
Also a 323 is the lightest of the US based 3's, mine weighs under 3200 pds. I love my tight steering and non drive by wire
Now that being said, if its a step there isnt much you can do except Supercharge.
That's just it - no-one will pay a $5,000 premium for a heavily-modified 323, and in fact, if he tries to sell his car with extensive modifications, there's likely to be a price penalty, as buyers sensibly speculate as to what sort of muppet did the work, and the number of miles before the car grenades on them.kris6957 said:As far as the recommendations to buy another car......hahh. Just look at the economics after depreciation etc, compared to what you spend on mods. I fully expect my NA modded 323 to keep up with 330's. Not M3's, mind you, but 330's.
Its still not going to equal the price of an M3 or new 330. You can never think of a car as an investment, unless its a classic.norihaga said:That's just it - no-one will pay a $5,000 premium for a heavily-modified 323, and in fact, if he tries to sell his car with extensive modifications, there's likely to be a price penalty, as buyers sensibly speculate as to what sort of muppet did the work, and the number of miles before the car grenades on them.
Of course, you can convert it back to stock and sell all the performance parts on e-bay, but the more extensive your modifications, the more that's going to cost you. :dunno:
Realistically, you'd be LUCKY to get 25 out of that list of mods. On a good day.kris6957 said:TOTAL COST: $3370 ESTIMATED HP GAINS: 35-40. Maybe that does not sound like much, but it is 20% or more.
THAT is one of the only mod that will give you significant, tangible "performance enhancement". However, to best take advantage of a shorter rear end, you need more REVs up high. The SHARK should be the perfect compliment for that.kris6957 said:Now, for the icing on the cake: 3.91 custom differential. Since we both have autos, we are running 3.46 rear ends. Cost is not cheap at $2000, but well worth it. I don't have the cash right now to do it, but I plan to put one on the later half of the year.