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M Performance Suspension

While looking/building a 4GC on-line I see that BMW has added something I have wanted as an option, M Performance Suspension, from reading the description it lowers the car 20mm, I have wanted the 704 but didn't want the M Sport package (I'm not a fan of the bodywork.) Cost $980. Has anyone seen this on a car yet? Wondering if 20mm drop might be too much.

I need to update this as I noticed I didn't pick the GC but just the Coupe, when I went back and built a GC, the M Performance suspension wasn't an option, now this sucks, wonder if I can still get it installed?
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:07 PM
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http://www.rickhendrickbmw.com/parts...nsion-kits.htm

From their FAQ:

Although the spring rates are firmer, the difference in ride will be imperceptible for all but the worst of potholes. A 20% increase in spring rates does not represent a significant enough increase over stock rates to provide a noticeable difference in ride quality over normal road surfaces.


If there is no significant difference in ride, I wonder how much better it will be.
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Why not just get the Adaptive M Suspension?
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Why not just get the Adaptive M Suspension?
For me it's the ride height even with 19's too much air in the fender wells. But I'm not too sure if 20mm Is too much.
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For me it's the ride height even with 19's too much air in the fender wells. But I'm not too sure if 20mm Is too much.
You might as well get the Adaptive for the feel and drivability, and then get springs to lower your ride height.
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You might as well get the Adaptive for the feel and drivability, and then get springs to lower your ride height.
why get the adaptive?
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Couple of random thoughts:

1. 20mm is just a tad over 3/4 of an inch. Not a big drop and will not give any clearance issues

2. What's the cost? Would this be an option in a new car or are you looking to add to existing
vehicle?

3. BMW is re valving the shocks for the lowered springs but they also mention upping compression and rebound. The question here is how much? A smaller amount and it's an improvement, to much and it becomes an annoying ride depending on taste. The biggest question for me is the shocks and the fact that they are non adjustable, and I'm not talking the BMW system.

4. This is one of those options where investigating a high quality set of adjustable coil-overs may be a more viable alternative. Aside from controlling the amount of drop you want , they provide 15+ levels of adjustability for both compression and rebound. To me it's about the ability to adjust the suspension to personal taste.
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Couple of random thoughts:

1. 20mm is just a tad over 3/4 of an inch. Not a big drop and will not give any clearance issues

2. What's the cost? Would this be an option in a new car or are you looking to add to existing
vehicle?

3. BMW is re valving the shocks for the lowered springs but they also mention upping compression and rebound. The question here is how much? A smaller amount and it's an improvement, to much and it becomes an annoying ride depending on taste. The biggest question for me is the shocks and the fact that they are non adjustable, and I'm not talking the BMW system.

4. This is one of those options where investigating a high quality set of adjustable coil-overs may be a more viable alternative. Aside from controlling the amount of drop you want , they provide 15+ levels of adjustability for both compression and rebound. To me it's about the ability to adjust the suspension to personal taste.
Would be on a new 440GC, I love hearing about all the adjustability the coil overs have, and how many people adjust the suspension when the car is not tracked?
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If you are looking at a new 440 the M performance suspension is a very good option and would have my interest if I was looking a buying new. How much is it as a new car option?

Point of reference: Had the 328 in for service a couple of weeks ago and they gave me 330 with the Msport package as a loaner. Found the Msport suspension very capable and fun as a daily driver. When getting more aggressive there was still a bit to much body roll and weight transfer going on for my personal taste but that's just me. Biggest limiting performance factor is still the non-grippy run flats. That said the M performance suspension would be a step-up in filling the gap when you want to push the car more.

My point with adjusting coil-overs is you spend the first few weeks with them adjusting compression and rebound until you find your personal sweet spot. From that point on you leave them alone, and enjoy the car. Track days are just a another setting after some experimentation.
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If you are looking at a new 440 the M performance suspension is a very good option and would have my interest if I was looking a buying new. How much is it as a new car option?

Point of reference: Had the 328 in for service a couple of weeks ago and they gave me 330 with the Msport package as a loaner. Found the Msport suspension very capable and fun as a daily driver. When getting more aggressive there was still a bit to much body roll and weight transfer going on for my personal taste but that's just me. Biggest limiting performance factor is still the non-grippy run flats. That said the M performance suspension would be a step-up in filling the gap when you want to push the car more.

My point with adjusting coil-overs is you spend the first few weeks with them adjusting compression and rebound until you find your personal sweet spot. From that point on you leave them alone, and enjoy the car. Track days are just a another setting after some experimentation.
First I dislike the M Sport front end, so I wouldn't get the M sport, this is why I'm looking for an alternative as far as suspension goes. But I did find out that I can order the 704 suspension, as a stand-alone option, since my dealership will go to bat for me to get that suspension. I have a few options to look at.
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Not sure if you can even get it anymore, however, I have a (well my daughter drives it now) 2015 428i with the 704 suspension. I bought it off the showroom floor (Chapman my I-10/Ray) and didn't even know it had that suspension or what it did when I bought it. The car is not a M-Sport car and the "sportline" trim dealio. Anyway, I really like the 704 suspension in it and am very happy with it. I can't compare it to anything in the 3 or 4 series cars other than driving my (it's gone now) daughter's 2013 320i, which was stripped and wasn't a very sporty ride, to me anyway.

I'm probably not much help...just know you live in the Phoenix metro and figured I'd throw my 2 cents of babbling in there.
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First I dislike the M Sport front end, so I wouldn't get the M sport, this is why I'm looking for an alternative as far as suspension goes. But I did find out that I can order the 704 suspension, as a stand-alone option, since my dealership will go to bat for me to get that suspension. I have a few options to look at.
I'd be very surprised if you can order a non-MSport RWD with the 704 suspension. Never heard of this happening since the demise of Sport Line.
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I'd be very surprised if you can order a non-MSport RWD with the 704 suspension. Never heard of this happening since the demise of Sport Line.
After speaking to people it can be done, BMWNA has to approve it. Maybe if more people would let BMWNA know they want the option of just ordering the 704 they might make it a stand alone option.
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why get the adaptive?
For drivability. It rides better than the M-sport one for daily driving.
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For drivability. It rides better than the M-sport one for daily driving.
I'm all for the Adaptive suspension our GT has it, not too sure I want it on my car.
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I'm all for the Adaptive suspension our GT has it, not too sure I want it on my car.
Seems you like the adaptive on your GT. Any particular reason you don't want it on your car?
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Seems you like the adaptive on your GT. Any particular reason you don't want it on your car?
I like the Adaptive suspension on the GT, as I have written before it allows the car to have 2 personalities. But my car I want something different, maybe with more of an edge, this is why I was looking at the M Suspension.
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I like the Adaptive suspension on the GT, as I have written before it allows the car to have 2 personalities. But my car I want something different, maybe with more of an edge, this is why I was looking at the M Suspension.
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