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Old 03-29-2005, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by excel
alot of ppl said their clutch needs to be replaced prematurely on the SMG models, etc.. and lots of problems of it stalling, going into neutral while on hwy.. etc...

smg sucks then!! it's about $300 more than steptronic here in Canada, i'm still deciding..step or smg

no manual, i've driven manual for 3 yrs already
SMG's are prone to please the former clutch drivers more often than the automatic drivers.
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Old 08-16-2005, 10:25 PM
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Old 09-30-2006, 06:21 AM
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Great article, I went from a stick M5 to the new 5 with the SMG2, Love it. I now shift and handle the car like a Pro and all because the shifting element is now out of the equation. I have a GT2 that is loads of fun but when you really want to get on it one needs to be very ready.

PS...they have had a few technical problems (cog of death) but slowly they are de-bugging and to be fair no problems since the software updates.

Have a good time with your new ride and thanks for your well thought out article.

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Old 09-30-2006, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Hercules View Post
No thanks on the SMG...

I like to have the control that comes with PARTIAL clutch depression to limit the revs on the engine... I can slow down the car by easing up on the clutch and not even touching the brake.

SMG can't let me do that.
But why would you want to do that? Brakes are designed for slowing the car and also easily replaceable. Its not like we drive old cars with 4-wheel drum brakes where such tactics were necessary (my old Camaro had drums on it when on I bought it).
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Old 10-02-2006, 01:58 PM
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I had the good fortune of driving a friend's F355 with the paddle shifters ... Shifting was perfectly smooth under both light and hard acceleration. I could downshift under braking without upsetting the chassis ... puttering around town in automatic mode was as smooth as any automatic I've ever driven.

I think the good/bad news with the Ferrari version is that you really don't need much skill to smoothly manage the engine. I didn't try anything blatantly stupid but if you shift anywhere near the normal rpm's, the thing shifts smooth as silk, no throttle lifting required.

If I could get that system on a car I could afford , I'd do it in an instant. While I think that in some ways I wouldn't be quite as "involved" in the driving, the system would let me drive the car so much better than I can drive a manual right now that it would be worth it. Not to mention the convenience in stop-and-go traffic.
After reading this, I would have to ask you, why not just get an automatic? If silky smooth shifts is a priority for you, and you're willing to give up some "involvement," I would think a Steptronic transmission is your ticket. They even have paddle shifters for Step now.

I'm not trying to be a wiseass or denigrate your opinion. I believe everyone has a wide range of priorities that affect their choice of transmission, and I simply want some more insight into yours.
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:47 PM
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great article, not too long but lots of good information

Thanks for the SMG opinion article. Having driven over 250K miles on a 6-speed '02 Maxima, that I hated to give up, I was initially disappointed with my '02 M3 w/SMG. It has taken me nearly 2K miles to finally figure out the correct technique for smoother shifting. Had I read that article a year ago I would have saved myself a lot of frustration and second guessing for choosing SMG over the 6-speed. It just takes a period of adjustment before the SMG can be fully appreciated. Thanks for the link... a must read for those manual diehards contemplating an SMG.
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