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Old 07-31-2002, 07:17 PM
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Talking 20 miles of country road

I had the opportunity tonight to take a nice ride over ~ 20 miles of extremely rural roads. Several of the miles where through farm country with no other cars insight, a lot of twisties and what I now know are some good "launch" sites I got so into the ride I actually took so many turns I ended up getting quasi lost and 8 miles away from my intended destination

But to the reasons for my post..............I can safely say that I now know the limits of the xiT. I pushed hard through most of the run taking many corners to the point of extreme body roll, tramping it down on the straight-aways and coming out of a few corners sensing that the understeer was going to get me into a few of the fields with these .

My referenced "launch" sites would be the two grade change spots where it felt like I had the wagon airborne . I would swear at one point the passenger sides where off the ground. The DSC saved me more than once and was lighting up like a flashing X-mas tree I got really pumped when I saw the "3 miles of curvy *actually the squiggly line pic* ahead" sign. Amazing how fast 3 miles can go by.

Relative to other 3 series, yes my wagon is a pig but it sure as heck didn't act like one. I can only imagine what I would be able to do with some sways, performance tires and a few driving lessons Come on UCC fix us xi owners up.

I gave myself a nice reminder of why I bought my BMW I look forward to a time when I have one with a real SP and a little less weight.
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Old 07-31-2002, 07:23 PM
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Pics of said wagon in the air?
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Old 07-31-2002, 07:25 PM
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Pics of said wagon in the air?
Sorry Nate both hands were on the wheel for that manuever so no pics

Hey I shot a 75 on Monday with only 1 birdie
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Pics of said wagon in the air?
I am looking forward to those
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Old 07-31-2002, 07:28 PM
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Sorry Nate both hands were on the wheel for that manuever so no pics

Hey I shot a 75 on Monday with only 1 birdie
Great job!

I am thinking about playing tomorrow.

Next time that you go out to these roads, take your wife (or a friend!) who can get a pic with the wheels off (or the suspension unloaded)
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I actually chirped one of my tires tonite on the way home from work. It was actually a little more than a chirp, and I had radio off, windows and top open, and it sounded like it was my front tire.

I didn't notice DCS come on, but it must have. I was turning left, onto a downhill slope, and front left tire must have lifted. I was only going 5-10 MPH, but was dumping the clutch at about 2500 rpm. The driver in front of my had really pissed me off, I don't usually do that to the clutch. (pavement was very hot today, though)
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Next time that you go out to these roads, take your wife (or a friend!) who can get a pic with the wheels off (or the suspension unloaded)
If I can find my way back

It most likely was the just the suspension unloaded but when it grabbed I had to make about a 20 degree left turn, the cows eyes where bigger than mine I think
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I actually chirped one of my tires tonite on the way home from work. It was actually a little more than a chirp, and I had radio off, windows and top open, and it sounded like it was my front tire.

I didn't notice DCS come on, but it must have. I was turning left, onto a downhill slope, and front left tire must have lifted. I was only going 5-10 MPH, but was dumping the clutch at about 2500 rpm. The driver in front of my had really pissed me off, I don't usually do that to the clutch. (pavement was very hot today, though)
There must have been something in the air I'd been driving like Alee lately (old lady like) for some reason but I just got the idea to detour and put the xiT to the test. I had some squealing going on myself
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There must have been something in the air I'd been driving like Alee lately (old lady like) for some reason but I just got the idea to detour and put the xiT to the test. I had some squealing going on myself
Supposed to be a nice day tomorrow, also.....Maybe we should try again This time I'll watch for the DCS light
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Supposed to be a nice day tomorrow, also.....Maybe we should try again This time I'll watch for the DCS light
Count me in

I have to stop about 5 miles away from where I started tonight tomorrow on the way home The temptation will probably draw me back.
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So, Phil, when are you ordering ACS wheels, coilovers, CAI?



Nate I see you changed you signature pic to show suspension unload Thanks.

The ACS wheels are very appealing but the Mrs. isn't willing to part with the $$ to buy them Hmm.........coilovers

I already have CAI
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Dumping the clutch at 2500 RPMs, Doug? With an xi, 4000 is more like it.
I am SO looking forward to swaybars.
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Nate I see you changed you signature pic to show suspension unload Thanks.

The ACS wheels are very appealing but the Mrs. isn't willing to part with the $$ to buy them Hmm.........coilovers

I already have CAI
I forgot about your present from Florida

The ACS wheels look nice, coilovers would make your car handle better, most likely
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Dumping the clutch at 2500 RPMs, Doug? With an xi, 4000 is more like it.
I am SO looking forward to swaybars.
LOL 4k minimum huh

I don't have to worry about that since my car is wife proof (aka STEP)

Nick have you gotten the wheels off the ground
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Tell the misses that your car will be much safer for her and the little ones if you upgrade the suspspension and tires. It will improve roadholding and accident avoidence maneuvers, therefore decreasing the chances of messing up the car or its occupants.
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Tell the misses that your car will be much safer for her and the little ones if you upgrade the suspspension and tires. It will improve roadholding and accident avoidence maneuvers, therefore decreasing the chances of messing up the car or its occupants.
Nice try Nate but she won't buy it. I already used the safe vehicle speech when we were shopping. So I can't beat that dead horse.

I am however keeping track of her "hobby type" spending so when I finally make the move to buy some stuff I'll have a number to work with and I'll use the old equal treatment approach
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LOL 4k minimum huh

I don't have to worry about that since my car is wife proof (aka STEP)

Nick have you gotten the wheels off the ground
I've never gotten my wheels off the ground... However, I have had much fun sliding around turns on dirt roads. Also remember that I went through tires and brakes in 10,800 STREET miles.
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I've never gotten my wheels off the ground... However, I have had much fun sliding around turns on dirt roads. Also remember that I went through tires and brakes in 10,800 STREET miles.
I wonder who drives the hardest out of all of us. I'm pretty damn hard on my car, but I've only had it for ~10km's so I haven't gone through anything yet. Nate is also pretty good at this car thrashing thing, but he had driving events too.
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I wonder who drives the hardest out of all of us. I'm pretty damn hard on my car, but I've only had it for ~10km's so I haven't gone through anything yet. Nate is also pretty good at this car thrashing thing, but he had driving events too.
I'm probably one of the wirst when it comes to outright mistreatment. Mine's been where few SUVs have ever gone before... I put all kinds of crap into it when I'm working. Unfortunately, some of my cargoes have had sharp edges recently... There are a number of scratches and scuffs and such on the interior trim. Essentially, I use my wagon as a damned wagon. Unlike you people who buy wagons and cringe at the thought of even allowing other people to sit in them

I think Nate is probably close to the worst as far as outright thrashing goes, however.
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I'm probably one of the wirst when it comes to outright mistreatment. Mine's been where few SUVs have ever gone before... I put all kinds of crap into it when I'm working. Unfortunately, some of my cargoes have had sharp edges recently... There are a number of scratches and scuffs and such on the interior trim. Essentially, I use my wagon as a damned wagon. Unlike you people who buy wagons and cringe at the thought of even allowing other people to sit in them

I think Nate is probably close to the worst as far as outright thrashing goes, however.
Yeah, I agree with the wagon comments. Use it like a real utility vehicle! I've gotten bit by the bug too, did you see my post re: the Protegé5?
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I'm probably one of the wirst when it comes to outright mistreatment. Mine's been where few SUVs have ever gone before... I put all kinds of crap into it when I'm working. Unfortunately, some of my cargoes have had sharp edges recently... There are a number of scratches and scuffs and such on the interior trim. Essentially, I use my wagon as a damned wagon. Unlike you people who buy wagons and cringe at the thought of even allowing other people to sit in them

I think Nate is probably close to the worst as far as outright thrashing goes, however.
Come on I hope you are not talking about me

I've loaded it up with stuff and I drive it spiritedly (I would not say abusively) I've even had people in the back seat

Oh and I agree.................Nate is the king thrasher
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Dumping the clutch at 2500 RPMs, Doug? With an xi, 4000 is more like it.
I am SO looking forward to swaybars.
Yeah, it probably was higher than 2500...I was paying more attention to the guy in front of me (who was pissing me off) This intersection has a three way stop, but the direction we were going does not stop. Everyone else has to yeild to cars coming our direction. This guy in front of me just had no clue what he was supposed to do. (at least he went straight, and didn't turn onto the twisty road in front om me)
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I wonder who drives the hardest out of all of us. I'm pretty damn hard on my car, but I've only had it for ~10km's so I haven't gone through anything yet. Nate is also pretty good at this car thrashing thing, but he had driving events too.
I tore a subframe with only street driving, so if that tells you anything
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Not that I really think my car is that slow - keep in mind that at 3450 lbs it's less than 250 lbs or one big passenger heavier than an E46 325i. In fact...in just looking at the specs now, it appears my car is lighter than that 325xiT that hit those 20 miles of country roads, which tips the scales at 3600 lbs. News to me...
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