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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 06-23-2005, 09:23 AM
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Question SMG tranny questions

Have a friend contemplating an E60 purchase. It has SMG and she wants to know the extent of the adjustability. I told her that it should have a few modes to select from in both auto and shift modes. I am a total tard when it comes to this trans so would like to know how well suited it can be for her. She isn't too interested in shift-on-your-own but would like the upshifts in auto to be smoother. Can the trans be adjusted for this? She just wants to cruise around and not notice gear changes much. Tks.
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Old 06-23-2005, 09:42 AM
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She should get an automatic.
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:48 AM
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I wish she could. Its a pre-own and thats how it comes.
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:19 AM
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I'm sure she can find an auto somewhere. Better to wait and get what you want then to be unhappy.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:10 PM
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DO NOT BUY SMG PLANNING TO JUST USE THE AUTO MODE! You will not be a happy camper
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DO NOT BUY SMG PLANNING TO JUST USE THE AUTO MODE! You will not be a happy camper
Exactly. Here is a description of folks who should get SMG:
* Seek peak performance and sportiness
* Enjoy doing their own shifting
* Enjoy the "cool factor" of SMG
* Occasionally gets stuck in rush-hour traffic or needs to use the phone
* Non-stick-trained driver may occasionally drive the car
* Did I mention, "enjoy doing their own shifting"?

BTW, putting it in sport mode makes the shifts smoother, but it still blows chunks compared to even the worst automatic transmission.


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The SMG is new technology and therefore there is a learning curve to using it. It isn't a real manual and it isn't a real automatic transmission.

Physically, it is a manual transmission...it has a pressure plate, a clutch, etc. The driver simply lacks a clutch pedal (like you find in a car with an automatic transmission).

Either you can control the shift points just like a real manual or you can let the car decide when to shift just like a real automatic.

However, this transmission has features of both transmissions and features of neither one.

In time, in auto mode, one can learn how to drive with this transmission and get relatively smooth shifts but as I said earlier, there is a learning curve.

For someone more inclined to an automatic transmission (for whatever reasons they have), I do not think I'd recommend the SMG as a good solid replacement but it really, really depends on the person.

For someone more inclined to a manual transmission (for whatever reasons they have), I do think I'd recommend the SMG as a good solid replacement but it still really, really depends on the person.

I would normally tell you to just go test drive a car with SMG but I honestly think that a 30 minute test drive will not give you enough time to adjust to the SMG...not enough time to learn the SMG.

I think the automatic-inclined person would hate it and the manual-inclined person would like it. But, someone use to an automatic will probably adjust a bit faster to the SMG than someone use to a manual (At least this was true in my case--I'd stepped on the brake a couple times thinking it was the clutch...boy was that scary!)

So, shortyb, judging by what you wrote, I do not think your female friend would enjoy the SMG too much unless she was willing to put in the time and effort to learn this new transmission. She will find the automatic mode very herky-jerky until she learns how to feather the acceelrator while the tranny shifts on its own and this will not happen overnight...or maybe even ever.

I'm a manual guy and I like the SMG very much but I was a bit frustrated with it at the beginning. I love shifting it myself and I like the Sport mode a lot as it shifts darn quick. However, I still feel the shifts but no biggie to me.
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