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Old 07-05-2005, 09:35 PM
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I've ordered my M3, for which I've been given a tentative July 29 delivery date at the Performance Center. Having read this board for a while from behind the scenes and found it to be a valuable information source, I thought I'd sign on and say hello.

I'm probably atypical agewise as an M3 owner (hence, the m3geezer moniker). While my peers would think of me more in terms of 760s than M3s, my toys keep me young. (Besides, if I want to drive something that corners like a Chris Craft, I have my Grand Cherokee.) My current BMW is a beloved 2000 540i with the sport package. I'll miss it, but I look forward to the M3 experience.

I'm sure I'll have loads of more interesting questions for you knowledgeable people in the future, but for now I would like to know how accurate are the delivery estimates given by the PC. What are your experiences with kept/missed commitments?

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Old 07-05-2005, 11:22 PM
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I'm probably atypical agewise as an M3 owner (hence, the m3geezer moniker).
Unless you're 70 years old, then most likely you aren't atypical at all.
Thing is, most of the people on these forums tend to be younger in general then what you see out there.
Sure, if you go on 6speedonline you'll see plenty of 19 year-old Porsche Turbo and GT2 drivers.
Hardly the case in real life and a somewhat insignificant number statistically speaking.

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I'm sure I'll have loads of more interesting questions for you knowledgeable people in the future
Keep in mind you might be hearing advice for suspension setups, mods and aesthetic enhancements from a 20 year-old.
You might fall in a very different demographic group. So "knowledgeable" is a very relative thing...

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What are your experiences with kept/missed commitments?
Sorry, can't help you there. I did a Eurodelivery and car was ready for pickup the day that was promised.
Then again, I had to fly 7000 miles to go pick it up
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Old 07-06-2005, 06:28 AM
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Thanks for the reply, rommelrules. I considered European delivery, but decided that I didn't want to drive it for a while, then put it on a ship and wait for it to come to me. (One seemingly interminable wait is enough!)

I imagine that the vagaries of the shipping schedule come into play for models that are built in Europe and delivered at Spartanburg. I'm hoping that hurricanes will stay away from the shipping lanes (and from us, in Florida!).

So, I'm still looking for any experiences with Performance Center delivery.
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Old 07-06-2005, 06:39 AM
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m3geez,

I agree with rommel: The average age of participants in M3-related online forums tends to skew towards the younger side, perhaps reflecting the demographics of internet usage in general.

WRT to the delivery estimates for PCD, my personal experience had my car arriving at the Port of Charleston a full 10-12 days before my PCD delivery date.

When I arranged the PCD through my dealer, I picked from a choice of available dates. During the waiting period, I received a couple of letters from the Performance Center, the first one indicating a tentative delivery date that included a disclaimer about weather conditions affecting transport and thus delivery, etc. About 2 weeks before my scheduled delivery, I received another letter confirming my delivery date.

I would guess that unless a hurricane makes its way up the Eastern seaboard right as your transport vessel approaches, you stand a very good chance of making your delivery date.

As far as actual experiences at PCD, I posted links to pictures and write-ups of my experience this past May in the following thread:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99901
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My "estimated" date was dead on. The car waited two fairly painful weeks for me in SC.
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I've ordered my M3, for which I've been given a tentative July 29 delivery date at the Performance Center. Having read this board for a while from behind the scenes and found it to be a valuable information source, I thought I'd sign on and say hello.
I'm probably atypical agewise as an M3 owner (hence, the m3geezer moniker). While my peers would think of me more in terms of 760s than M3s, my toys keep me young.
--m3geezer
Welcome!

With a moniker like that, you've got to promise to drive it at least once in the fast lane at 10 under the speed limit with your left turn signal blinking for several miles, OK?
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Thanks, Patrick, for the insightful and well-written commentary about PC delivery. I now know exactly what to expect. It sounded even better than I thought it would be!
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:33 AM
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M3Geezer,

Congrats on your choice of car. You will love the M3. I picked up mine in Munich on May 9 and drove it for 3 weeks in Germany. Loved every minute of it. I am currently (and anxiously) waiting for delivery. It should be here in the next week. Have fun!
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Welcome!

With a moniker like that, you've got to promise to drive it at least once in the fast lane at 10 under the speed limit with your left turn signal blinking for several miles, OK?
Just for you, LMC, I will do just that! Would you prefer I-5?

The good thing about being in Florida is that as old as I might think I am, I can readily find others who are old enough to be my grandparents. (And my grandma died 7 years ago at the age of 102.)
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M3Geezer,

Congrats on your choice of car. You will love the M3. I picked up mine in Munich on May 9 and drove it for 3 weeks in Germany. Loved every minute of it. I am currently (and anxiously) waiting for delivery. It should be here in the next week. Have fun!
The waiting must be painful, especially after having driven it. Do you take a lot of cold showers?
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You might not be as "atypical" as you think. Just some of us keep a lower age profile instead of a lower age!

I also have an M3 on order. My excuse is that my son has been letting me drive his Lotus Esprit
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I'm glad my postings helped. I did a write-up because I remember being starved for information and insight into PCD when I was waiting for my car. So I added my own impressions to the pantheon of PCD write-ups.

You will enjoy your Performance Center experience, I guarantee it! Everyone associated with the experience is very friendly, and I heard raves about the other two Delivery Specialists, just as I felt highly of mine.

Just a couple of other thoughts:
* The M3 has a 1200-mile break-in period where one must keep the engine below 5500 rpm and the car below 105 mph. Also, the manual states that during this period, you should strive to vary engine and road speeds. Accordingly, I would plan a route back home that avoids Interstates with their resulting 6-hour constant 75MPH stints. Personally, on the way back to CT I took the Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Drive, which were perfect for getting to know the M3.
* Remember to bring your camera, and remember to take pictures! It sounds stupid, but in my initial excitement of seeing the car I neglected to take many pictures of the delivery area.
* If your delivery specialist starts to show you the remote window-down feature of the keys, make sure there are no placards sitting on the windows.
* After you get back, make sure to come back here and tell us how much fun you had!
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The waiting must be painful, especially after having driven it. Do you take a lot of cold showers?
That and I try not to look at my watch every hour wondering "Is it here yet?"
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BMW will pull out ALL the stops to haveyour car there for the date. IN fact you caan make your airline reservations NOW.

About the only dates missed were when a ship sank with cars on it.

BMW fast tracks your produciton (gets coded as a 9, meaning it absolutely positively MUST be there). My car was finished two weeks early versus the original production week, then jumped past other peoples cars to get on a ship IMMEDIATELY, even past cars that had been waiting to ship from Europe for more than a week to 10 days. And yes, it was there over 2 weeks prior to the delivery date.

AWESOME experience to take delivery at the PC.

And yes, keeping it within break in parameters is NOT easy.
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* The M3 has a 1200-mile break-in period where one must keep the engine below 5500 rpm and the car below 105 mph. Also, the manual states that during this period, you should strive to vary engine and road speeds. Accordingly, I would plan a route back home that avoids Interstates with their resulting 6-hour constant 75MPH stints. Personally, on the way back to CT I took the Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Drive, which were perfect for getting to know the M3.
* Remember to bring your camera, and remember to take pictures! It sounds stupid, but in my initial excitement of seeing the car I neglected to take many pictures of the delivery area.
* If your delivery specialist starts to show you the remote window-down feature of the keys, make sure there are no placards sitting on the windows.
* After you get back, make sure to come back here and tell us how much fun you had!

Thanks again, Patrick. Great advice across the board. I'll be particularly alert when my delivery specialist starts to demo the remote window roll-down function.

I will have a camera or two with me because I'm going to be continuing on to the DC area to shoot some pictures for a friend's forthcoming book on coaching Little League. The delivery is scheduled for Friday, and my plan is to drive the 500 miles up tp Reston when I'm finished at the PC. (What time of day did they turn you loose?)

On Monday, I'll head back toward Florida. Skyline Drive/Blue Ridge Parkway definitely figure into the return trip. (One of my clients is in Warrenton, which is not very far at all from the Front Royal entrance to Shenandoah National Park.) This timing works out perfectly, because I would rather do Skyline Drive/BRP during weekdays than weekends in the summer.

I'd really like to do some hiking/backpacking along the way, either in Shenandoah or around Mt. Mitchell, but the thought of leaving the new M3 unattended at a remote trailhead gives me a queasy feeling!

Upon my return, I will gladly post my account of the experience and I will publish the photos on my web site for anyone interested.
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And yes, keeping it within break in parameters is NOT easy.
Of THIS, I have no doubts!

And once it is broken in, keeping it within legal limits will be next to impossible!

Thanks, Terry, for the information about BMW fast-tracking the order. This will give me some confidence in firming up some of my plans.
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Post My Configuration

As long as I'm running off at the keyboard, I might as well post the configuration of the forthcoming M3. All constructive comments are appreciated. I won't be racing the car (at least formally).
  • M3 Coupe - 6 spd manual
  • Imola Red Exterior / Imola Red Leather
  • Aluminum Shadow Interior Trim
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  • Xenon
  • Width-adjustable power front seat backrests
  • Das ist alles!

By the way, my delivery specialist is Frederick Valdez, who I believe is famous for his window demo technique.
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What time of day did they turn you loose?
We were done around 3-4pm.
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By the way, my delivery specialist is Frederick Valdez, who I believe is famous for his window demo technique.
That, he is. Ask him to show you the offending placard.

If you're going up to VA before heading back down to FL, it looks like you'll cover the 1200 mile break-in and then some before you get back home. There is a 1200 mile service that should be performed at the end of the break-in period, changing engine oil/filter, transmission fluid, and differential fluid.

Don't sweat the 1200-mile mark; the service doesn't need to happen at exactly 1200 miles. I would, however, think about scheduling the service with your dealer before leaving to pick up the M3. You never know what their service schedule is like. I chewed through most of my 1200 miles on my trip back, then had to wait a week for service, so it didn't get done until past 1500 miles.

I've heard stories of some dealers telling people that the M3 does not need a 1200-mile service anymore. Don't believe it. The 1200-mile service is fairly important, and definitely should be done.
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Imola Red Exterior / Imola Red Leather
A most excellent choice! My '02 M3 is IR over IR...and I think that it blows away IR over Black...specially at night (very dramatic as the interior lights fade out). You'll find yourself looking back at your car (at least once) every time you park it.
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Don't sweat the 1200-mile mark; the service doesn't need to happen at exactly 1200 miles. I would, however, think about scheduling the service with your dealer before leaving to pick up the M3. You never know what their service schedule is like. I chewed through most of my 1200 miles on my trip back, then had to wait a week for service, so it didn't get done until past 1500 miles.

I've heard stories of some dealers telling people that the M3 does not need a 1200-mile service anymore. Don't believe it. The 1200-mile service is fairly important, and definitely should be done.
I'm a firm believer in complying with factory recommended (or prescribed) maintenance schedules.

Thanks for the suggestion about scheduling the service. I'll schedule it when I get the two-week confirmation from Frederick. My dealer can usually do a routine service on fairly short notice, but not if I want a loaner.
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A most excellent choice! My '02 M3 is IR over IR...and I think that it blows away IR over Black...specially at night (very dramatic as the interior lights fade out). You'll find yourself looking back at your car (at least once) every time you park it.
Thanks for the endorsement! I was thinking that Imola Red over Imola Red would bring scorn from the interior decorator community. As for me, I think there's far too much red/black stuff going on out there. The tires--what little of a profile they have left--will be the black trim item.

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Thanks for the endorsement! I was thinking that Imola Red over Imola Red would bring scorn from the interior decorator community. As for me, I think there's far too much red/black stuff going on out there. The tires--what little of a profile they have left--will be the black trim item.

Just what is an "Informed Badge Whore," anyway?
My SO will be spec'ing her M3 (after the housing drama ends) with Imola Red exterior and Alcantara interior. The Alcantara seats have the M tricolor dots, and one of the dots is red, which matches the exterior Imola Red.
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This is where it started:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=101886

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I'm thinking that I can't be a badge whore if I'm the one who's forking over the fifty grand. Therefore, I must be a badge John.

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My SO will be spec'ing her M3 (after the housing drama ends) with Imola Red exterior and Alcantara interior. The Alcantara seats have the M tricolor dots, and one of the dots is red, which matches the exterior Imola Red.
I guess I never considered the Alcantara, but your SO's interior decorating scheme makes great sense. I hope she doesn't change her mind when she sees the picture of my Imola/Imola.

(Alcantara, Imola...Italians, Germans...hmmm...I'm wondering if the Axis is re-forming now that the EEC is in big trouble.)
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