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Old 06-05-2010, 12:08 PM
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Parking Ticket in France - In a Rental Car

So My wife and I are traveling around France visiting various wine regions. We're currently staying in Saumur and we decided to go into town today to visit the markets. When we got into town I got what I thought was 'rock star parking' (I took the parking place of someone who just left and was surrounded by others parked in the same area.) Unfortunately when I returned, my rental and the car next to me had parking tickets.

My question is: should I ask the rental car deal with paying the ticket (I will of course let them know) or should I personally pay the ticket?

I did all the obvious things like attempt to call the rental car company in Paris (got stuck in the IVRS automated voice system from hell).

I'm not look for responses like 'don't pay', as I spend enough time in Europe not to want to have trouble at customs. If anything, I would attempt to contest the ticket, as it says (from what I can translate with my limited French) I parked on the sidewalk. I was far from parking on the sidewalk in what appeared to be marked parking places.

Has anyone found them in the situation of getting a parking ticket on their rental car? How did one deal with it?

Also I'm a bit shocked at the level of personal information they require on parking tickets. They want my driver's license number, date of issue, date of birth, place of birth. So much for tight EU privacy laws.

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Old 06-05-2010, 12:45 PM
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Also I'm a bit shocked at the level of personal information they require on parking tickets. They want my driver's license number, date of issue, date of birth, place of birth. So much for tight EU privacy laws.

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Old 06-05-2010, 02:30 PM
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LOL. I could only wish. We've been on our best behavior over here. I only use one out of 3 roundabouts for skidpads. Our Opel Astra 1.4L turbo (watch for this engine in the deluxe versions of the Chevy Cruze [Cobalt replacement]) has me longing for my 335i. Oh do I long for the days of putting the smack-down on drivers during my ED in '07. That and the fact that the A/C has gone south and it's kinda warm. Not a good harbinger for GM, considering the car has 5400 miles on it.

Went back to the scene of the crime this evening and left shaking my head and my fist at the Gendarmarie. Thinking the scorched earth strategy might be to go to the police office tomorrow and attempt to pay in cash all while saying 'parlez anglais?" 'only English' enough times to get this travesty over and done with.
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Old 06-06-2010, 01:58 PM
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So I paid my ticket today and wanted to tell all 'festers 'the rest of the story'. Seems you can't just show up at the police department with cash, or credit card. In France payment requires a local cheque or fiscal stamps. The fiscal stamps are available at tobacco shops, of which there was probably one out of 10 open on Sunday. Long story short, fine paid, receipt given, and no personal data exchanged. Lesson learned: drink more wine in France, park less...
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Old 06-06-2010, 04:20 PM
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Or stay out of France. The only Continental Countries I can say are worse to drive in are Switzerland (where there are probably more Speed Cameras than citizens), Belgium or Italy. Czech Republic is OK but everyone there is a thief.
Since you were in a rented Opel, I assume you secured the car in Germany, are not a resident of the EU and have a US Driving License so (and I know you do not want to hear this) you really did not have to pay it.

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Old 06-06-2010, 05:32 PM
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How much was your fine? I returned this week from two weeks in Italy, where I received a 35 euro parking ticket on my rental car in Siena. I parked in a residents only strip, not well signed, but it was signed at the end of the long block. We were parked there roughly 5 hours. Don't know if the ticket reflected an escalating fine. Nothing on the ticket seemed to indicate that.

Paying in Italy required going to a post office and executing what seemed to be a special purpose money order. They required my name and address but nothing else. Don't know if they would have chased it down through the rental agency, but I will be going back to Europe next year and want no loose ends. I will keep my receipt of course.

On my ED I drove to Lake Como/Bellagio, then down to Cinque Terre (parked in La Spezia) and back up to Nice and across France to Brittany. No issues that trip. This trip I drove almost every day all around Tuscany and Chianti, mostly on secondary roads where lanes are merely vague suggestions, but I got through this trip without incident as well, other than the parking ticket. And yes, I often wished for my E90. The Fiat 500C I wound up with (I wanted small, in Italy) felt like a throwback to the '60's imports.
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I'm sure the rental car agency would have paid the fine, and then added it to your credit card (with an extra processing fee of course.) I got a moderate amount added to my last rental car bill from France about a month later - I'm assuming it was from a speed camera somewhere. I did get a receipt eventually, but it was in French, and not really enough to argue about.

Still, I have to say I've grown to like France. It has its charms once you learn to fit in, and away from Paris, its not a bad place to drive. Just don't be in a hurry - my GPS had an updated speed camera library, but still beeped a false positive about 10 times for every real camera. It wasn't worth the effort, and most traffic seemed to stay at around 120kph, so 128kph on the cruise control (by the GPS, the optimistic speedo on rental indicated close to 140kph) had me comfortably passing most cars.
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Or stay out of France. The only Continental Countries I can say are worse to drive in are Switzerland (where there are probably more Speed Cameras than citizens), Belgium or Italy. Czech Republic is OK but everyone there is a thief.
Since you were in a rented Opel, I assume you secured the car in Germany, are not a resident of the EU and have a US Driving License so (and I know you do not want to hear this) you really did not have to pay it.
I rented the car through Hertz at CDG airport and yes to both the non EU resident and US driver's license. I just felt the need to do the honest thing and really didn't want to have any recourse in the offing from Hertz. I prefer to have it over and done with. Besides I suspect that Hertz and I will be going round and round about a stone chip in the windshield...darn Pilkington glass.
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I'm sure the rental car agency would have paid the fine, and then added it to your credit card (with an extra processing fee of course.) I got a moderate amount added to my last rental car bill from France about a month later - I'm assuming it was from a speed camera somewhere. I did get a receipt eventually, but it was in French, and not really enough to argue about.

Still, I have to say I've grown to like France. It has its charms once you learn to fit in, and away from Paris, its not a bad place to drive. Just don't be in a hurry - my GPS had an updated speed camera library, but still beeped a false positive about 10 times for every real camera. It wasn't worth the effort, and most traffic seemed to stay at around 120kph, so 128kph on the cruise control (by the GPS, the optimistic speedo on rental indicated close to 140kph) had me comfortably passing most cars.
I completely agree. Once out of Paris, France really comes into its own. We stayed at B&Bs outside of Bordeaux and the Loire valley. Everyone we met was exceptionally helpful and really a joy to meet. At some wineries, we literally showed up and they greeted us with open arms. Certainly the big chateaus are nice, but the real treats were the small family run vineyards.

I also had a speed cam database on my GPS that saved me at least 3 times but also had a lot of false positives. It looks like they use a lot of mobile cameras in lieu of the fixed cameras that dot the UK. We finally just slowed down, enjoyed the ride and tried the hypermile the Astra 1.4 enough to offset the surprisingly high tolls on the Autoroutes. I'd forgotten how smooth the roads are. We have a lot of newly paved/poured roads going in around Chicago and I can say the newest roads here are still no match for what they have heading south out of Paris. Ahh the benefits of high gas taxes, tolls, vehicle taxes. Wait, I'm starting to sound like a Socialist...
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[QUOTE=CinANC;5240351]How much was your fine?

35 Euro, or 75 euro if it wasn't paid in 45 days.
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I feel you! It happened to me also, besides parking tickets is popping all over the world now. Like what happened to a Chicago woman that has damaged a town record by accumulating more than $105,000 in parking citations, issued over three years to an automobile that cost only $600. And now she is suing the city. But before readers get offended, read on. It appears as though she really has a good case.
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What I have done in the past, in Germany, I let the demand payment process go through the rental agency, who may pay and then bill my CC. I am not sure if all rental agencies work the same. If I don't hear from either the ticketing agency (the law) or the rental agency, then I'm off Scot free. Normal parking ticket in Germany is around 5-10 euros, not much, so I don't normally pay attention to paying for parking at the kiosk unless it is near where I parked.
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What I have done in the past, in Germany, I let the demand payment process go through the rental agency, who may pay and then bill my CC.
I did the same with a Hertz rental. They added a 25 Euro processing fee to the cost of the parking ticket and charged it to my CC.
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I've dealt with speed camera tickets and parking tickets in the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Portugal. France and Germany are the only ones were I was ever charged anything from the rental car company (Avis). They charged 19€ for an 'administrative fee', where they provided my information to the local authorities. After that, I never received anything. After inquiring with Avis numerous time, they informed me that since I live outside the EU, that sending me the citation and collecting the fine would generally cost more than the entire fine.
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Not sure in France but in Germany, you can usually go to the local police or parking enforcement office and pay the fine on the spot. Of course, this may be easier said than done in the bigger cities.
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I got a parking ticket in Regensburg, Germany and figured I'd ignore the mealy 5 Euro fine. The next month Hertz added $30.00 to my credit card bill. "Service charge". I should've been honest and paid up in the first place.
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I got a parking ticket in Regensburg, Germany and figured I'd ignore the mealy 5 Euro fine. The next month Hertz added $30.00 to my credit card bill. "Service charge". I should've been honest and paid up in the first place.
I would double check to make sure that they paid the fine, and not just added the "service charge" to your credit card ultimately leaving you still liable for the 5E fine (and potentially getting stopped at a Schengen border). Stranger things have happened.
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