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Old 11-04-2017, 03:51 PM
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BMW is recalling approximately 1 million vehicles due to a risk of underhood fires. Two separate issues are at the root of the recall: the first, affecting 740,000 vehicles from the 1-, 3- and 5-Series lineup, along with the Z4 and X3 and X5, all from model years 2007-11, involves a rusty crankcase ventilation valve.

The second problem affects 2006-2011 3-Series cars, about 673,000 vehicles, and involves heating and air-conditioning wiring that could overheat, which could cause a fire. Some vehicles are affected by both issues, leading to a total recall of about a million units.

No injuries have been reported regarding the valve issue, but four injuries have resulted from the shorted wiring harness.

Both issues will be addressed by BMW dealers starting Dec. 18.



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Old 11-04-2017, 07:57 PM
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So do we need to call bmw or wait for the letter?

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Old 11-05-2017, 08:01 AM
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They usually send you a letter if your vehicle has been affected.
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Old 11-05-2017, 08:15 AM
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BMW is recalling approximately 1 million vehicles due to a risk of underhood fires. Two separate issues are at the root of the recall: the first, affecting 740,000 vehicles from the 1-, 3- and 5-Series lineup, along with the Z4 and X3 and X5, all from model years 2007-11, involves a rusty crankcase ventilation valve.

The second problem affects 2006-2011 3-Series cars, about 673,000 vehicles, and involves heating and air-conditioning wiring that could overheat, which could cause a fire. Some vehicles are affected by both issues, leading to a total recall of about a million units.

No injuries have been reported regarding the valve issue, but four injuries have resulted from the shorted wiring harness.

Both issues will be addressed by BMW dealers starting Dec. 18.

Isn't 12/18 the debut of Star Wars this year? Outrageous!

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Old 11-05-2017, 10:47 AM
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there is also a service bulletin about the ccv sticking and making that whistling noise . mine started doing that intermittently recently .
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:16 AM
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Isn't 12/18 the debut of Star Wars this year? Outrageous!

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Old 11-05-2017, 11:32 AM
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The local paper in Seattle said that you should park your vehicle outside until the issue is addressed. I just had a new heater core installed because the heat and air did not function and wonder if a new heater valve was replaced with a "new" part that is still susceptible to recall. Is it fair to say that you really should park your car outside? or is this just overkill....?
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:56 AM
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BMW is recalling approximately 1 million vehicles due to a risk of underhood fires...The second problem affects 2006-2011 3-Series cars, about 673,000 vehicles, and involves heating and air-conditioning wiring that could overheat, which could cause a fire.
As I understand it, the "second problem" is the blower motor connector, as has been reported in a number of posts in this forum over the years. Although the information related to this recall is rather vague, it certainly suggests the problem is at the blower motor and NOT "underhood" and if that is the case, it is just above the front passenger's left foot/leg.

Rather than being scare-mongered by "AutoWeak", one should read the information that has been released by BMW/NHTSA:

https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls

See attached PDF from BMW site, also Tim's posts (tim330i/cofounder -- thanks Tim ;-)

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I am going to complain that I am scared almost terrified due to this recall and request a loaner vehicle ...


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Old 11-05-2017, 01:35 PM
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Old 11-06-2017, 12:36 AM
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As I understand it, the "second problem" is the blower motor connector, as has been reported in a number of posts in this forum over the years. Although the information related to this recall is rather vague, it certainly suggests the problem is at the blower motor and NOT "underhood" and if that is the case, it is just above the front passenger's left foot/leg.
With relation to the Blower Motor Connector/Output Stage recall, here is a link to a thread with good photos of a charred connector & Output Stage. Note in the lower photo that the output stage bears the "Valeo" ID:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=23

Looking at the wiring diagram for the Blower Motor (M30 in the diagram), the Output Stage (N2 in the diagram) ALWAYS has 12V+ (battery power) supplied via the Red/Violet (RT/VI) wire and via fuse F67 (30A) on my model. So if things get melted in the connector (X18722) or the Output Stage (N2) it would appear possible that you could get an electrical fire even with ignition off.

Here's a link to the wiring diagram for my 2007 328xi E91:
https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e...bution/xBm37Oo

I'm NOT sure how the A/C module and JBE regulate blower speed and turn it off, but apparently it is by removing ground to turn it off, or modulating ground to regulate blower speed. I would assume the "Output Stage" contains resistors for that purpose? If ANYONE understands that system, please enlighten me.

My approach today will be:

(1) Remove connector X18722 (4 pins) from the blower Output Stage, and inspect both the connector and the Ouput Stage for any sign of "meltdown", charring, or other indication of heat damage, similar to what is shown in the linked photos.

(2) If such damage is found and I cannot determine how to correct or prevent further damage, I will remove F67 to prevent fire hazard.

(3) Of course that means NO Blower function which creates its own hazards. So if one finds significant damage upon inspection, an option pending recall fix is replacement with OEM (Valeo or Behr) Output Stage (also referred to as Resistor/Regulator) per this example link:
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...stor/Regulator

It will be interesting to know what BMW determines is a reasonable fix -- whether the problem is in the connector or the Output Stage (my guess is the Output Stage), and what they propose to replace or correct.

If anyone has dealt with such a problem with close personal inspection of the parts, please offer your interpretation of the cause of the overheating, your own experience, what was replaced, and whether you have followed up with inspections to see if the problem recurred.

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Old 11-06-2017, 11:24 PM
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I am going to complain that I am scared almost terrified due to this recall and request a loaner vehicle ...


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Did it work? Did you call the dealer or customer relations?
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:43 AM
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Gonna call the BMW Canada head office, and demand an M5 or 760Li for a loaner.
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Gonna call the BMW Canada head office, and demand an M5 or 760Li for a loaner.
Realty?! Let me know the outcome. My dealership is hard enough to just get any loaner.
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Realty?! Let me know the outcome. My dealership is hard enough to just get any loaner.
I was only kidding..

But I might as well actually call them to see how they react since there are now 3 recalls for my car! I'll complain about how I am scared to drive a deathtrap, and say whenever I arrive at the destination I cry with tears of joy because I am still alive.
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So after almost 7 years and 147,000 miles when should I expect my car to burn up.
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Mine is under both recalls, since I have an attached garage I am parking it outside until it's fixed. The chance of a fire may be small, but you don't want to be number X + 1.
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I complained to customer relations and said they will be giving me a loaner for the mean time until it is fixed
But I might pass on it to be honest lol.
I don't need another car sitting on my driveway.

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My wife is buying me a fire extinguisher to keep in the car. I've also decided that after 5 years of owning recalled BMWs, I'm going to take a chance and park it in the garage only if we're expecting lots of snow. It's kind of like continuing to play golf when you know a thunderstorm is on the way. Your odds of getting struck by lightning are low, but you don't want to be THAT person.
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Are there any data on the number of affected cars that actually caught fire? I remember watching a news segment reporting that some BMW cars mysteriously started burning while parked... But these may be another issue unrelated to the recalls
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Just got my recall letter on my 2011 E90

IMPORTANT SAFETY RECALL - Initial Notice - Remedy Unavailable
Recall Campaign No. 17V-676: Blower Motor Wiring


"At the present time, we are not ready to perform this recall on your vehicle..."


...approximately a three hour free repair

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"Are there any data on the number of affected cars that actually caught fire?" From what I heard in the news, it was around 45. Many of the cars were parked with the ignition off, that is why mine is outside. The recall notice said that safety is of BMW's utmost concern, but I call B$ on them considering they have known about this for 10 years and they only got off their collective heinie because of ABC News. One burned down house is one too many.
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