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Old 05-23-2006, 06:38 PM
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2006 E46 M3 Break in Period Quagmire?

I have just got my M3 right, so, I was doing so good with the whole im gonna keep her at or between 0-4400 RPMS until 1200 miles. So my stupid ass let my friend drive it AFTER I explained the brek-in thing. so the beast only has 200 miles on it at this point. Anyway Out of excietment(mind you he WERKS ON BMWS and other German CArs} he just listens for the shift change and brings her up to or between 5000-6500. I Barked at him but it was obviosly too late. the car is now at ruffly 550miles and is perfectly fine to the ear and hand. My Question finally is was that enough to do any damage to my engine pistons heads or Diff? Thank you.
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Old 05-23-2006, 07:41 PM
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:04 PM
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:25 PM
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Old 05-23-2006, 09:34 PM
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For all their heckling, I'll have to step up and tell you there was no harm done. Hopefully that will give you some peace now... Oh, and I'll up the ante to $10 in case you don't believe that

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Old 05-23-2006, 09:35 PM
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lesson two:

making all friends sit in the back seat.
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Old 05-23-2006, 11:28 PM
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:30 AM
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This is why I love leasing BMW's, Z4 rocked out--turned in; M3 currently being driven like a racecar daily-- will be turned in at lease end. I feel bad for those who buy my post-lease vehicles.
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Old 05-24-2006, 12:18 PM
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This is why I love leasing BMW's, Z4 rocked out--turned in; M3 currently being driven like a racecar daily-- will be turned in at lease end. I feel bad for those who buy my post-lease vehicles.
Haha...you don't have to lease to do that.
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Old 05-24-2006, 01:05 PM
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It's people like you that make me weary of Certified Pre Owned Behicles, then again I would probably do the same thing

Oh BTW to the oringinal poster, your car is fine as long as it was warmed up properly.
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Old 05-24-2006, 03:00 PM
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Old 05-24-2006, 03:32 PM
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Old 05-26-2006, 11:40 AM
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Your car will probably be faster for it..
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Old 06-09-2006, 11:43 PM
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My understanding was keep it below 5,500 RPMs (my memory of the manual). Am I wroong?

When I picked up my car, the dealer manager (reports to owner), a 20+ year veteran of BMWs told me to just mash it. I didn't, but it was nice to know he said that. He then mumbled something about break in being different in the US due to lawyers. Never looked into this.
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Old 06-10-2006, 10:14 AM
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Think about how many people drove your car BEFORE you did. I've seen these guys unload cars from the ships (Nissans and Toyotas) and let me tell you about the "Shipyard 500". It starts the minute the longshortman can make the connection between the ship and land. Trust me, your car has been worked over. Then there is the possibility that people test drove it before you bought it. Do you think they obeyed the 5500 RMP limit? Then there's the prep guy at the VPC and the prep guy at the dealer.

The first 7 miles on my car were probably some of the hardest.

I've heard all kinds of stories about how to break in a motor. Probably the most accurate was from a Erion Racing that builds race bikes. He pulls them out of the create, puts them on a dyno does a couple full throttle runs under load, then lets them completely cool down. Does this 3-4 times and says the bike is good to go. All he's doing is heat cycling the engine. Let the parts expand and contract in order to seat right.

IMHO most break ins for motorcycles are to allow the new rider the time to adjust to the power and handeling of the bike more than breaking in the engine. Cars are probably similar, but I don't really know.
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The car's fine; it's not unusual for an M3 (or many other BMWs) to run roughly at idle with a cold engine. This is why you dont let friends drive a brand new car especially a tempting car like the M3. I'll be honest since I've been guilty of not pampering someone else's new BMW 325i. With about 150mi on it, I ran it to (but not past) 4500rpm in each gear until about 95mph, and then after that, I shut off DTC/DSC and did a nice powerslide around a corner. Even then I dont think much harm was done.
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Old 06-11-2006, 05:48 AM
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The engine is actually borken in at the factory with a dry run (they actually runt he engien without oil to break in the rings). A lot of the break in info is for the diff and tranny which don't get any running prior to install in the car.

The racing engine break in is well documented, but they are 1) only talking about the engine, not the rest of th edrive train and 2) not worrying about engine life.
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...A lot of the break in info is for the diff and tranny which don't get any running prior to install in the car.
Which would explain the trans/diff oil change at 1200 miles and no level 5 or 6 with SMG until after the break in.
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Old 06-11-2006, 03:21 PM
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Fluid change - to remove wear particles. In Europe they also get an oil change from a break in oil, but he US has that done at the VPC since they don't trust US owners to actually bring the car in for service at 1200 miles.

No S5/6 - to avoid the shock loads to the drive train of the rapid shifts. Allowing both the tranny and diff to break in.
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Old 06-18-2006, 10:12 PM
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Awesome Fleet man! And thank yous to everyone who gave some nice peace of mind advice. As for the shipyard 500 Ive heard that was more of a falacy than anything due to liability and my car was dropped of and picked up on off-hours. but thanks anyway
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Old 06-19-2006, 09:29 PM
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This is why I love leasing BMW's, Z4 rocked out--turned in; M3 currently being driven like a racecar daily-- will be turned in at lease end. I feel bad for those who buy my post-lease vehicles.
did u buy the lowest grade fuel possible?

serious question though..
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Old 06-20-2006, 05:13 AM
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I got to break mine iin on the autobahn, and it was tough keeping it under 4000 RPMs or 105 mph or what ever the standard was.... But I did for the most part, only a few times did I get on it before the 1200 miles period. After that it was game on.

You should be just fine, in all reality you should vary your RPM's and speeds during the breakin period anyway, so no harm really.
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