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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 10-20-2005, 06:41 PM
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How to replace/fix missing climate control buton

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How do I fix or replace missing climate contorl button for my 1999 BMW 528I. Since winter is coming, I can't raise the temp up for the car it stays at 60 degree, the up button is missing. Please help. Thanks so much.
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Old 10-21-2005, 08:32 PM
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You can buy replacement buttons - about $20 for all of them. They come in a set together. They snap in.
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Old 10-21-2005, 09:31 PM
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yup, they are very easy to replace, and cheap too!
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Old 10-22-2005, 12:14 AM
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Thanks so much. Another question is one of the button which is in good condition doesn't work. It is the the to increment channel up for radio or cd don't work for the radio, but this options work when i use the car steering wheel. How do you repair that. Please advise. Or you think its a bad button as well. If so how do you remove it.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:07 PM
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You can buy replacement buttons - about $20 for all of them. They come in a set together. They snap in.
Where can you buy all of them for $20?
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:11 PM
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Where can you buy all of them for $20?
I don't think you can find ALL of them for that cheap.
These guys sell them
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:49 PM
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Pretty expensive for just a few buttons. Last year at one of the chapter meetings the parts manager was offering a 25% discounts on parts. I bought the whole panel for something like $88 bucks.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:03 PM
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I don't think you can find ALL of them for that cheap.
These guys sell them
Im a perfectionist, and some might call me stupid, but i ordered a button from that guy today Doru. $15 i guess is a bit overpriced but not bad... Not going to find it anywhere else. I went to some junk yard in town, sure enough they had a 2000 540i, went to the back and the guy wouldn't let me take one piece, he said i have to buy it all, he said $100. Extreme ripoff for the condition it was in. Ohh well, lol..

The guy above tn528 said all of them for $20 I couldn't believe it.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:26 AM
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I don't know how to replace a climate control button - but these links, found by typing /trim F3 in the bestlinks, may help the OP:
- How to remove the IHKA air conditioning control panel to clean the circuit board (1) (2) (3) (4) & an HVAC (IHKA) sampling fan check - a cn90 15 min DIY project! (1) & how to remove the trim and bracket holding the MID & HVAC/IHKA panels (1) (2) & how to diagnose lack of HVAC/IHKA heater core heat with cooling system (auxiliary pump) at idle (1)


PS: How does a climate control button break anyway?
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:52 AM
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I picked up a set at the dealer...forget exactly what I paid but I think it was closer to 50.... Easy to replace... Just snap in (I replaced my fan speed button and auto button)
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:09 AM
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that was a while ago. BMW parts have skyrocketed

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I picked up a set at the dealer...forget exactly what I paid but I think it was closer to 50.... Easy to replace... Just snap in (I replaced my fan speed button and auto button)
lately in price,
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:43 AM
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Was probably about 18 months ago... I can dig a little and confirm
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Any update on the climate control buttons? I only need the one for the fan speed with the -/+ and the fan pic on it.

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Old 01-28-2013, 03:53 PM
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I have a brand new + - fan button I bought for $15 and ended up not using that I will sell. PM me
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I don't think you can find ALL of them for that cheap.
These guys sell them
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Any update on the climate control buttons? I only need the one for the fan speed with the -/+ and the fan pic on it.

Thanks

The link that Doru's posted in his reply is still active (the underlined "these guys sell")...you can purchase any of the IHKA buttons as well as click the links on their website for instructions on how to replace the buttons.

Here's a clickable link posted again to their website: www.ihkabuttons.com/buttons.html
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The link that Doru's posted in his reply is still active (the underlined "these guys sell")...you can purchase any of the IHKA buttons as well as click the links on their website for instructions on how to replace the buttons.

Here's a clickable link posted again to their website: www.ihkabuttons.com/buttons.html
I purchased my vent up button from them. While it is a bit pricey for one button if your OCD in nature like me and can't stand seeing a damaged button.
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These guys prices are ridicluous. I don't mind paying 100% mark up but 500% is a bit much.
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These guys prices are ridicluous. I don't mind paying 100% mark up but 500% is a bit much.
So go buy the complete set from your dealer for over $125 and fix your one broken button. Talk about markups! I think these guys were pretty clever to jump in to fill a niche need. Almost nobody needs a complete set, but it was no big deal to buy it when they were around $20.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:41 AM
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There's a difference between making a reasonable profit and charging extremely high prices. I think I'll start a company and sell them at a 10% profit to allow capitalism to take its course.
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What you are suggesting is exactly why so many of us can enjoy many low-price internet parts for our BMWs, instead of being subject to the manufacturer/dealers' ideas of a reasonable profit.

When "capitalism takes its course," competition drives the price as close as possible to the cost (Econ 101). The "invisible hand" of the market is what determines profit in the end, not someone's idea of what is "reasonable."
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The "invisible hand" of the market is what determines profit in the end, not someone's idea of what is "reasonable."
More specifically, the price is never what "I" think it's worth ... the price settles (due to supply & demand) to what the sum total of all the other morons out there "think" it's worth.

Then you have to compete with "that" price if you want the object (i.e., that is your teeny tiny little part in the supply & demand curve).

That's why you never get what you pay for - you simply get whatever it is at the price that all the others are willing to pay for.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:34 AM
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I'm not sure the supply and demand issue works here. The party is plentiful and the demand is not that great. That being said the parts should be cheap. The issue is that it's a single source part that was patented years ago and BMW is the only one that makes it. I still think the price is high and I like I said I don't mind paying 100% mark up but 500% is a bit much. I did find the part for $15 on here but someone slid in there and got it before I did. I may just buy a set and sell the ones I don't need for $10 plus $3 shipping so I can help out a few folks.
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I doubt that the part was patented. The reason BMW is the sole source is more likely that they own the injection molds or have an exclusive supply relationship with the molding house that does own them. It's not worth it for anyone else to invest in copying the molds, even for the Chinese. I expect what you'd find if you bought a set and tried to sell the ones you don't need is that there is very uneven demand for the buttons. So, there is probably high demand for the fan speed button and the red and blue temp buttons, all of which are used often. But, you may have trouble getting rid of the others. How does that effect your "cost?" I'm sure that the IKHA guys face this problem: They probably have lots of unpopular buttons leftover in the sets that they had to buy from BMW.
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There's a difference between making a reasonable profit and charging extremely high prices. I think I'll start a company and sell them at a 10% profit to allow capitalism to take its course.
I'd love to see you start this business of reselling parts for little/no profit. Please let us know how it works out for you.

People pay 500% markup all the time and don't even know it. Take eggs at the grocery store, for instance.... 500% markup all day long. Maybe the grocery store should lower everything to 100% markup so that they can eventually go bankrupt but at least you would be happy knowing that you aren't "overpaying" LOL

Sorry but i'm in the parts resale business and it makes me mad when people don't understand the nature of markups.... it costs time and money to keep stuff stocked on a shelf ready to go.... it costs time and money to run a business.... if you can get it cheaper somewhere else then do it. There's no need to accuse someone of gouging/overcharging when you have no idea how capitalism works.

If you don't agree with a price - buy it somewhere else.

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I've seen those Chinese guys copy almost everything including small electronic parts that I buy quite a bit of. I haven't seen them copy any of the BMW buttons. I think the fan button has to be one of those used most and I miss mine. I guess I'll bit the bullet and buy one and hopefully I won't have to buy another one.
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