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Old 12-02-2017, 09:03 AM
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Lights malfunctions

Started my car today, and these warnings came on:

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What could have possibly caused this, and how could this be fixed?

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Old 12-02-2017, 09:42 AM
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So check the bulbs ...... if you have LED tail lights the whole unit has to be replaced to cure a failed LED .....
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:15 AM
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So check the bulbs ...... if you have LED tail lights the whole unit has to be replaced to cure a failed LED .....


Yeah, it is LED bulbs. I just hope it is simple wiring issue.... It's strange both rear tail lamp and front signal light are out at the same time
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"Left reverse light malfunction" is on as well... But left rear turn signal works
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Would it harm the car if I wait until spring to fix this...? I am planning to replace wheel bearing and do some other minor works on the car in April or so. So I might as well do all of then together.

So I was wondering if these "lights malfunctions" would cause further damages if left unaddressed? My car will be hooked up to battery tender during winter. And it will be taken out for a work out once in 10 days or so when the roads are dry.

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No worries it's just bulbs that went out could still be driven
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No worries it's just bulbs that went out could still be driven


Thanks for your input. I'm worried that it could be an issue with wiring like corrosion... Not sure whether it would make sense to think it would cause more damages to other wires if left for a long period of time. Or maybe battery tender could have negative effects

Anyways. The front right turn signal initially works when engaged the first time after starting the car. And then I get the malfunction warning, and the signal stops working....
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Old 12-03-2017, 01:21 PM
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Crap... That means it will be expensive to fix
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How can the front turn signal AND rear lights (brake, reverse lamp, tail lamp) go out at the same time though? Wouldn't that mean some sort of wiring issue..?
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Crap... That means it will be expensive to fix
Bulbs are cheap

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Really? I thought LED's were expensive. Anyways, if true, that's good to hear!
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So it seems you have a combination of light bulbs and LED .....for example ..... just the rear has two bulbs ..... brake light and running light ..... the turn signal is an LED (you said) ...... the whole rear light assembly is about US$50 ..... I just did mine ...

With multiple outages you probably need a shop evaluation unless you want to get a multimeter and self diagnose if you are getting voltage to the light assembly, if the whole assembly or just a bulb or LED has failed.

BMW front and rear light assemblies have a reputation for failing
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So it seems you have a combination of light bulbs and LED .....for example ..... just the rear has two bulbs ..... brake light and running light ..... the turn signal is an LED (you said) ...... the whole rear light assembly is about US$50 ..... I just did mine ...

With multiple outages you probably need a shop evaluation unless you want to get a multimeter and self diagnose if you are getting voltage to the light assembly, if the whole assembly or just a bulb or LED has failed.

BMW front and rear light assemblies have a reputation for failing


Hey, thanks for your input again. I really appreciate it

I thought the brake lights and rear running lights are LED's as well (LCI E93). But the reverse lamp is a conventional bulb. But the rear turn signal (LED) works... Strange

Anyways, can anyone knowledgable with schematics of wiring confirm left rear tail lamp housing is somehow connected to right front turn signal? I am very aware that these are prone to failure, but I am just surprised they went out at the same time... And they had to go out when I took out my car for last ride before winter!
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Dealer quoted $1200 to fix this
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Dealer quoted $1200 to fix this
WTF did they say was wrong?

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Entire assembly for rear lights + labor + tax = $700. Front LED turn signal = $80. Running diagnostic on and checking wiring corrosion, faulty parts, loose assembly, etc = $400.
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Entire assembly for rear lights + labor + tax = $700. Front LED turn signal = $80. Running diagnostic on and checking wiring corrosion, faulty parts, loose assembly, etc = $400.
That's crazy.

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