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Old 01-13-2002, 01:56 PM
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Alternative for SMG

What if they don't remove the clutch pedal? Is it possible to put a device similiar to the electo-servo actuated clutch as well as a mechanical clutch in the same car? Would it be possible that I can drive a car like I want in manual mode with a re-designed shift pattern, and then when I press a button or shift the shifter into a "hidden" gate then I can have full SMG functionality? At that point I can either choose to have the SMG computer shift for me, shift via the steering wheel paddles, or just rowing through the gates? I mean, the technology of the SMG is all fine and good, but I won't get it because I'm going to miss that interaction between me and my car with the third pedal.

I wish BMW would offer something like this...An SMG that still retains the "fun" of driving with a clutch pedal and yet for sheer performance I can switch to SMG for the fastest shift "mechanically" possible.
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Old 01-13-2002, 02:00 PM
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solution: 2 E46's, like what you have now, but M3 SMG and M3 6-speeed manual instead of 323ci... I can see you borrowing your wife's SMG more often than the Steptronic she's got now. =)

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Old 01-13-2002, 02:08 PM
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solution: 2 E46's, like what you have now, but M3 SMG and M3 6-speeed manual instead of 323ci... I can see you borrowing your wife's SMG more often than the Steptronic she's got now. =)

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Sigh...The only problem with that is, she won't let me drive her car.
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Old 01-13-2002, 06:36 PM
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Yes, that would be perfect! Basically it would be a "clutch-by-wire" system, where the clutch pedal sends electronic signals to the actual clutch servo. The SMG software simply has to be reprogrammed to accept the clutch position override signals, and it can even have a safety feature to prevent stalling. Of course there would still be semi-auto and full auto modes where the electronic clutch pedal doesn't do anything.

Ok BMW, let's get going!
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Old 01-14-2002, 03:19 PM
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That would be nice. It's not like there's any feeling left in the clutch anyhow.
It would be great for those times when I don't feel like it...
Or when I finally go and get my knee fixed. Need knee surgery at some point in the next year.
It would also be great to be able to tell friends to drive me home. The only friend I have who can even come close to driving stick is my gf. And she's only had two sessions.
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Might be cool-- certainly possible...but

I think it would be really hard to drive a "clutch-by-wire" Even though our clutches have little feel, they still have enough to aid in knowing when to release the clutch-- I think it would be hard to simulate the clutch feel-- you wouldn't be able to feel the subtle vibration just as the clutch is engaging. I wonder if I had such a transmission how much I'd actually use the clutch pedal. YOu might tell yourself that you'd use it- but I bet within a few weeks of having the car you'd just use the normal SMG. I guess part of the appeal of a regular manual transmission is that you have no choice but to shift the old-fashioned way. You don't always want to- but part of the satisfaction is in the fact that you have to do it. Kind of perverse, but true I think.

I'd love to hear TD's reaction to a "clutch by wire" system if it ever came into existence...
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