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Old 11-08-2005, 05:21 PM
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Local dealer is taking $1000 deposits for 2007 model year slots. Price is not out yet of course but dealer will only sell for MSRP. Current 330 will cease production in August of 06.

I'm gonna check out the RS4 too seeing as the E90 M3 won't be here until the 2008 model year.
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:26 PM
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Local dealer is taking $1000 deposits for 2007 model year slots. Price is not out yet of course but dealer will only sell for MSRP. Current 330 will cease production in August of 06.

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Oh man, your dealer's talking out of his ass. That's just heresay to suggest that he has any information beyond what we already know. And this crap about the 330i being discontinued?

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Local dealer is taking $1000 deposits for 2007 model year slots. Price is not out yet of course but dealer will only sell for MSRP. Current 330 will cease production in August of 06.

I'm gonna check out the RS4 too seeing as the E90 M3 won't be here until the 2008 model year.
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:16 PM
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Current 330 will cease production in August of 06.
Hmm... that news to me.

Although, would I be shocked? No, not really. This just follows BMWNA's adopted strategy of only bringing two engine variants + M engine.

Besides, the 330 and 325 are real close in power, and it would be "overcrowded" with 325, 330, and 335.

Technically, I already have a deposit down for a "3-Series" E90 Cabrio which will eventually be my new 335. I remember though that they had me put "3-Series" instead of 330i because they were not sure what models would be offered when it was released. Once it gets closer to ordering I can finalize and pick whichever one I want to grab.

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Old 11-08-2005, 06:22 PM
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Besides, the 330 and 325 are real close in power, and it would be "overcrowded" with 325, 330, and 335.
Looked at that way, it almost makes sense. But, overall I agree that a dealer actually having good info on something like this at this point is slim to none (but it could be a lucky guess...).
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But, overall I agree that a dealer actually having good info on something like this at this point is slim to none (but it could be a lucky guess...).
Heck, my dealer flat out told me I would have better info over the internet than what is given to the dealership, and they are one of the larger dealerships. Infact, he asked that I email him pictures/info if I come across any in relationship to the cabrio.

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Heck, my dealer flat out told me I would have better info over the internet than what is given to the dealership, and they are one of the larger dealerships. Infact, he asked that I email him pictures/info if I come across any in relationship to the cabrio.

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My dealer's here somewhere, though prolly on the bewbs thread....
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What?


Probably just E46 Coupe...
We were talking sedans...
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Oh man, your dealer's talking out of his ass. That's just heresay to suggest that he has any information beyond what we already know. And this crap about the 330i being discontinued?
I don't think he is that far off...the 330 sedan will cease production in August and will move to the new 335 engine...coupe will get it later...they will want to do this before the new E90 M3 sedan comes out in late 2007...
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I don't think he is that far off...the 330 sedan will cease production in August and will move to the new 335 engine...coupe will get it later...they will want to do this before the new E90 M3 sedan comes out in late 2007...
I think your dealer is smoking crack.....some real good crystal at that.
You do realize that we have a number of guys who are far, far more connected to BMWNA than your dealer is,
and who have more posts on this board than you could count.

Like Jon Shafer, SpeedFreak, Fred Meloan, etc. just to name a few.
Don't you think they'd have gotten their hands on this little tid-bit of info?
I'll believe it when one of those guys talk about it, and even then its still far from
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I think your dealer is smoking crack.....some real good crystal at that.
You do realize that we have a number of guys who are far, far more connected to BMWNA than your dealer is,
and who have more posts on this board than you could count.

Like Jon Shafer, SpeedFreak, Fred Meloan, etc. just to name a few.
Don't you think they'd have gotten their hands on this little tid-bit of info?
I'll believe it when one of those guys talk about it, and even then its still far from
an actual confirmation.
Dude, I've been on this site longer than you have and I know the 'master of the obvious' things you posted...but I still believe there is some validity to what my dealer is telling me...you don't have to believe it...I don't care whether you believe it...I was just posting some info I heard...that is all.
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I don't think he is that far off...the 330 sedan will cease production in August and will move to the new 335 engine...coupe will get it later...they will want to do this before the new E90 M3 sedan comes out in late 2007...
Man, I sure hope you're right! I almost bought an 06 330i last weekend after test driving the IS350 and 330i back to back. My wife wants me to get the IS350(she says it's got better interior finish... ). Now I just drive the LX till the 335i comes out.
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Man, I sure hope you're right! I almost bought an 06 330i last weekend after test driving the IS350 and 330i back to back. My wife wants me to get the IS350(she says it's got better interior finish... ). Now I just drive the LX till the 335i comes out.
Ask your dealer and let us know what he says...maybe he will confirm what my dealer said.
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Local dealer is taking $1000 deposits for 2007 model year slots. Price is not out yet of course but dealer will only sell for MSRP. Current 330 will cease production in August of 06.I'm gonna check out the RS4 too seeing as the E90 M3 won't be here until the 2008 model year.
My holly ssssssssshhhhhhhttttttttttt
Are you telling me that I have to tell my wife she is again buying another fading out BMW model since Z4 launched right after she bought the Z3?.
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Hmm... that news to me.

Although, would I be shocked? No, not really. This just follows BMWNA's adopted strategy of only bringing two engine variants + M engine.

Besides, the 330 and 325 are real close in power, and it would be "overcrowded" with 325, 330, and 335.

Technically, I already have a deposit down for a "3-Series" E90 Cabrio which will eventually be my new 335. I remember though that they had me put "3-Series" instead of 330i because they were not sure what models would be offered when it was released. Once it gets closer to ordering I can finalize and pick whichever one I want to grab.

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Not sure what I read is true....
Firstly , 3-series 2-door (cab / coupe) will not be designated as 3 but prefix 4.
Only the M version will continue to be named M3 regardless whether it is 2-door , 4-door or cab.
This is what I guess why your dealer did not put the model name on your contract.
A quick guess is your car will be a 430i Cab, and I am doubt you will receive a Biturbo engine?
Also, be careful about what they tell you about you can pick anything you want, but for what price and wait for how long? Or you end up with driving your E90 on this Internet forum forever.
Don't worry , I am just guessing....
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I think your dealer is smoking crack.....some real good crystal at that.
You do realize that we have a number of guys who are far, far more connected to BMWNA than your dealer is,
and who have more posts on this board than you could count.
That they also control BMW's production planning will be news to the folks in Germany. (I wonder how they feel about that )

It's highly unlikely that BMW will stop making 330i sedans next year. All of its major competitors (not counting the Lexus) have petrol engines developing anywhere from 240 to 270 bhp. Unless they have all got together in recent months to up the ante against some invisible competition, it's unlikely BMW would lead the charge *out* of the powerful compact exec market. Don't you think?
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Besides, the 330 and 325 are real close in power, and it would be "overcrowded" with 325, 330, and 335.
This may be the case in the US, yes, which has traditionally only offered two engines in the 3er line-up (not counting the M3). This is two out of a total of seven. Unless there is a significant market shake-up in the next year it's unlikely the 330i will go out of production. If your importer stopped selling it, leaving a 215 bhp 325i and a 300+ bhp 335i, well that's seems like quite a big gap, and leaves money on the table for the A4 3.2, C350, Passat 3.6 etc..
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So what you're suggesting is that your dealer has this information that no other bimmerfest dealer has? Okay, let me corroborate this with Autospies. They'll know.

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I don't think he is that far off...the 330 sedan will cease production in August and will move to the new 335 engine...coupe will get it later...they will want to do this before the new E90 M3 sedan comes out in late 2007...
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Just an FYI, but I almost guarantee that the 335i if and when it is produced will cost approx. $5k (min) - $10k (max) more than the current 330i. Base vs. Base. Honestly I think it wil be closer to the Max, $10k. Many US dealers are estimating that the next M3 will see quite a price increase with a base price starting at $55-60k.


Edit: I also believe that the 330i will not be dropped for two simple reasons. The price difference between a base model (whatever that may be) and a 335i will be too great and the horsepower gap between both models would also be too large.

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330i/xi will not be out of production. BMW is trying to increase sales by covering as wide of a market as possible.. This is seen with the introduction of the 1 series.
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330i/xi will not be out of production. BMW is trying to increase sales by covering as wide of a market as possible.. This is seen with the introduction of the 1 series.
The 1 series is a pipe dream in the US and if it comes it will be a sedan, like a Jetta. BMW has worked hard in the US to build an image, cache of luxury performance (yuppie) cars and the 1 series would destroy that image. BMW also has stated they do not want the hatch here, it would be a flop like the Audi A3, and previous 318ti(not sure on the model but the small hatch from years gone by). They also have a monopoly with the MINI and are reapingthe benefits in the US, they do not want there own brands competeing. The next MINI will include more models not only the coupe and cabrio.
The 335 will come but it will replace something...
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At this point, I have to believe that nobody knows whether the 335i will be coming to this side of the Atlantic Ocean. However, judging by the level of 'buzz' that discussion of the possiblility generates, it is clear to me that there could be a great demand for it, if the price is not off the wall.

A word of caution on turbos, since I have lived with a few, including the current Volvo S60 R (300 hp from 2.5 liters, relying on a very pressure turbo and twin intercoolers). Their power output is very highly dependent on climatic conditions. In particular, if you live in a warm climate, as does this South Carolinean, output will be substantially reduced on those hot summer days. And, of course, when you enter the turnpike rest stop, you need to let the engine idle for a minute or two to let the parts cool down. Volvo and SAAB build essentially all their engines as turbos; BMW has avoided them. May be a matter of corporate philosophy and concerns for durability. With normal care, turbo engines generally do not burn out prematurely. But if you go 100,000 miles or so, do not be surprised if you need to replace the turbo unit.
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So what you're suggesting is that your dealer has this information that no other bimmerfest dealer has? Okay, let me corroborate this with Autospies. They'll know.
I am justing telling you what my dealer said smarta$$...

Everybody has an opinion but I can see BMW 'beefing up' the 3.0 in the current 325 leaving it and the 335 as 3 series engine options. Especially since Infiniti, Lexus, etc. are beating BMW in the HP game.
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At this point, I have to believe that nobody knows whether the 335i will be coming to this side of the Atlantic Ocean. However, judging by the level of 'buzz' that discussion of the possiblility generates, it is clear to me that there could be a great demand for it, if the price is not off the wall.

A word of caution on turbos, since I have lived with a few, including the current Volvo S60 R (300 hp from 2.5 liters, relying on a very pressure turbo and twin intercoolers). Their power output is very highly dependent on climatic conditions. In particular, if you live in a warm climate, as does this South Carolinean, output will be substantially reduced on those hot summer days. And, of course, when you enter the turnpike rest stop, you need to let the engine idle for a minute or two to let the parts cool down. Volvo and SAAB build essentially all their engines as turbos; BMW has avoided them. May be a matter of corporate philosophy and concerns for durability. With normal care, turbo engines generally do not burn out prematurely. But if you go 100,000 miles or so, do not be surprised if you need to replace the turbo unit.
I agree with you on turbos, I hate the lag normally associated with them...this is the main reason why I have not put a deposit down on the 335...I would need to drive it first...the RS4 looks better and better...
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to my speculations...i think the probability of 325 will cease production more than the 330. Since there's a 323 173hp, then 330 at 255hp, 335 at 340hp, and M3 at 400hp...is that why they used the 3.0 liter engine in the 325?

but...ur dealer is full of ****....tell him as part of the agreement that if the 335 doesn't come out and 330 is still in production in 2007, you get a car free. Lets see if he puts money on his words

They just upgraded the new engines....i doubt the engines will be replaced so soon...but who knows...as long as they made money off of it...either way im sticking to NA engines....came from turbo charged engines and hate the damn lags...it's fun when the turbo spooled up but when it isn't....
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